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    IMO, Vitor has a better chance than Sonnen any day of the week. That blitz factor will always give him a chance against pretty much anyone. Anderson avoided a violent attack by Vitor; but Jon (or nobody in MMA for that matter) has the head movement that Anderson does. The reach is another story, Vitor just has to pick a time to go for it in the first round. Watch those front kicks, Jon loves 'em, and I can see him giving an ode to Anderson against the same opponent.

    Preparing for Vitor is sort of like preparing for Hendo, they are extremely hard punchers early in fights. Vitor has way more speed and his punches are straighter. It's one of those obvious "go for broke" fights. Go out on your shield, Vitor.

    What I see is Jon backing off and circling away from Vitor's attacks and softening him up with jabs and a variety of kicks from the outside. Vitor will slowly break down and have no answer for the reach. Jones via 2nd round RNC.
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    I remember Anthony Johnson taking down Vitor in their fight and Vitor being the benefactor of some pretty quick stand-ups from the ref. If Bones gets him down, its probably curtains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    I remember Anthony Johnson taking down Vitor in their fight and Vitor being the benefactor of some pretty quick stand-ups from the ref. If Bones gets him down, its probably curtains.
    I remember that. Miragliotta was the ref and Anthony missed weight by something crazy. (By the way, I heard AJ passed out trying to make 205 recently). A lot of people thought Mirgs was punishing Johnson for missing weight. That, or he's a huge Vitor fan. The standup was absolutely ridiculous.
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    Vitor didn't look great in that fight from what I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    IMO, the other fighters being out of a payday is more on Dana than anyone else. We have been saying for a while now that the cards have been watered down considerably, now he's paying for that sin. He can deflect the blame on Bones if he wants, but the fact that the rest of the card couldn't stand on its own is solely Dana's fault.

    Its the same **** he criticized boxing about, centering the card around the main event and virtually ignoring the undercard. Jay Hieron should never be a PPV co-main event.


    Haven't they turned PPV events into tv events before? This card could have gone to Fuel. (However, I suppose that's also Dana's fault.)

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    Video: Vitor Belfort (186 lbs) vs. Anthony Johnson (197 lbs)

    Those standups weren't as terrible as I remember. Rumble was stalled from Vitor's arm control. Vitor still got taken down a few times in the lone round. On his back, against Jones, overpowered, outweighed...Jones' elbows... This could get ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    Bones opens as a -925 favorite over Vitor
    Yeah saw that, some sites opened even higher.

    I also saw Belfort was as high as +800.

    Belfort being able to stay healthy and actually make the fight is +785,000,000.

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    New episode of Eddie Bravo's Mastering the System. You guys should at least watch Eddie going Beast-Mode starting at 48:04.

    And if anybody else is a Renato Laranja fan, this episode is littered with him.

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    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/8/28...p-loses-condit

    Anderson Silva Wants Georges St. Pierre Even If He Loses To Carlos Condit


    UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva apparently has Georges St. Pierre firmly in his sights, and believes that the outcome of GSP's expected UFC 154 bout with Carlos Condit doesn't matter. In an interview with Sport TV, Anderson made it clear that he wants to face GSP next even if he loses to Condit:

    "Regardless of who wins, even if St. Pierre loses, a fight with me can happen. A fight like this is above anything else. St. Pierre is one of the greatest of the UFC. Right now, a fight with Condit is meaningless."

    Silva has been in the news a lot lately. He defeated his nemesis Chael Sonnen at UFC 148, and apparently turned down a bout with top contender Chris Weidman because it didn't interest him. His camp brought up names like GSP and Rich Franklin instead, and lately it's been GSP he's focusing on. Silva also reportedly offered to step up and fight at light heavyweight at UFC 151 to save the card, even though he was out of shape.

    The bout with GSP would likely take place at a 178-pound catchweight.

    I definitely wouldn't expect GSP to lose to Condit but it's awesome to hear Anderson talk about this fight openly and with optimism about it happening.

    Also the last line says it would likely be at 178, wtf? Why would Anderson drop down 7 additional pounds, shouldn't GSP move up in weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by #98QBKiller View Post
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/8/28...p-loses-condit




    I definitely wouldn't expect GSP to lose to Condit but it's awesome to hear Anderson talk about this fight openly and with optimism about it happening.

    Also the last line says it would likely be at 178, wtf? Why would Anderson drop down 7 additional pounds, shouldn't GSP move up in weight?
    Because GSP is scared. So this way GSP has no reason to decline the fight.

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    http://www.cbssports.com/columns/sto...s-need-a-union

    White's mishandling of UFC 151 proves that UFC's competitors need a union


    UFC fighters are some of the toughest athletes on the planet, but they're scared of Dana White. (US Presswire)


    They're suckers, these UFC fighters. They've been brainwashed by Dana White and are too naïve to know it, and it pains me to say that because I love this sport and the fighters who do it. Professional athletes don't come more accessible or honest.

    But they don't come more brainwashed, either. That's my conclusion from the fiasco of UFC 151, which was scheduled for Saturday in Las Vegas but canceled late last week because the UFC tried to milk a pay-per-view card out of one marketable fight, and when that fight fell through eight days ahead of time -- and fights fall through all the time -- the flimsy card fell apart.

    This was the UFC's fault. This was UFC president Dana White's fault.

    But he said it was light-heavyweight champion Jon Jones' fault -- and other UFC fighters believed him.

    This is why they need a union. That's the takeaway from this UFC 151 fiasco -- not that Jon Jones is a chicken or Chael Sonnen is a gangster. The takeaway is that UFC fighters need unity. They need strength in numbers. What they need is someone to look out for their interests, because Lord knows these guys can't do it themselves.

    The back-story: Jones' opponent for UFC 151, Dan Henderson, withdrew last week because of a knee injury. White found a replacement in Sonnen, a fascinating talker who has zero business fighting for the 205-pound title. Sonnen has had two title fights in his past four appearances and lost them both -- at 185 pounds. Somehow a 185-pound fighter coming off a lopsided loss, a guy who doesn't deserve to fight for the 185-pound title, probably ever again, talked his way into a title fight in a heavier weight class.

    Bully for Chael Sonnen, but what was Jon Jones supposed to do? Take a no-win fight, a fight that does nothing for him if he wins but sets his career back a year or more -- and the shelf life of a fighter is measured in years, not decades -- if he loses?

    And Jones could lose to Sonnen -- not because Sonnen is all of a sudden the most dangerous fighter ever, two paragraphs after I said he's unworthy of this title shot. No, Sonnen could win because anyone can win in this sport, at this level. The gloves are so small, the techniques so violent, the action so unpredictable. Chael Sonnen could do like Matt Serra did to Georges St. Pierre at UFC 69 or like Gabriel Gonzaga did to Mirko Cro Cop at UFC 70 and land a lucky blow and win the damn thing.

    Point being, Jones would have been risking everything -- his belt, his reputation, his short-term career -- to take a no-upside fight on eight days notice. So Jones said no.

    And the meatheads revolted.

    The revolt was led by King Meathead himself, Dana White, who I like very much when he's not embarrassing his sport with a profane or misogynistic rant on camera or Twitter or wherever he goes to lose his mind. White lost his damn mind Thursday when UFC 151 fell through, putting the blame -- all of it -- on Jon Jones.

    Never mind that there wasn't one fight on the card worthy of elevating to the main event once Jones-Henderson fell through. Even with Jones-Henderson, UFC 151 was being panned as one of the worst PPV cards in UFC history. Anything can happen once the cage door shuts, but on paper this card was a rip-off at $24.95 -- and the UFC was charging $54.95. Dana White and his partners have grown transparently greedy, putting on cards at an increasing pace, and the results are weak, watered-down shows unable to survive if the wrong fight falls through.

    This is not Jon Jones' fault.

    (Click link for entire article)

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    I can't see any circumstance in which fighters would ever create a union, although I agree with with most of what that guy wrote.
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    I'm still a Jon Jones fan. I think it's the most baffling amount hatred I've ever seen in my life, the scrutiny he gets. When I listen to him, I hear a nice humble young man. To me, Chael Sonnen is the one who can be the cockiest ******* you'll ever hear. When I was young, playing sports all year around, we were taught to carry ourselves like Jon does, not how Chael does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d0ublestr0ker0ll View Post
    I'm still a Jon Jones fan. I think it's the most baffling amount hatred I've ever seen in my life, the scrutiny he gets. When I listen to him, I hear a nice humble young man. To me, Chael Sonnen is the one who can be the cockiest ******* you'll ever hear. When I was young, playing sports all year around, we were taught to carry ourselves like Jon does, not how Chael does.
    Honestly, if he wasn't so dominant in the cage, I don't think he would get half the criticism he gets. Seems to me since people can't find much to criticize about his abilities, they dissect every syllable that comes out of his mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    Honestly, if he wasn't so dominant in the cage, I don't think he would get half the criticism he gets. Seems to me since people can't find much to criticize about his abilities, they dissect every syllable that comes out of his mouth.
    Well he has given people some ammo, the whole "The UFC can sponsor me and not worry about me getting a DUI" only for him to get a DUI 3 weeks later was unforgivable especially when people already don't like him.

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