Anything MMA, except thumb wrestling

[#98QBKiller]

Bonnar hasn't submitted anyone since 2007, even if it goes to the ground I don't think he gives Anderson any problems.

He's elected to stand and brawl with most of his opponents in recent years but IMO, his BJJ is probably better than Anderson's or at least just as good.

[StillUnknown]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/...-vs-bonnar-571

Anderson is as high as a -1350 favorite

[artmonkforHOF]

He's elected to stand and brawl with most of his opponents in recent years but IMO, his BJJ is probably better than Anderson's or at least just as good.

In theory maybe, but too bad for Bonnar this is not a BJJ competition. Unless you count submitting to a flying scissors heel hook as having weak submission defense, Anderson was last submitted in 2003 by rear naked choke after some good ground&pound. That was over 20 professional fights ago for Anderson, he's worked on his game a bit since then. He has showed in the first Chael fight that a guy can get top position on him and not get off a submission attempt or any type of G&P that does significant damage, he controlled Chael from his back about as good as anyone could expect. Then in Chael 2 & Hendo, he showed he can even be taken down and not have top position for a round, come back and adjust in the second round.

Anderson's defense on his back is underrated IMO, I think he defends better in his back than most if not all guys in the UFC, so I don't see Bonnar being able to pull of a straight submission attempt. Maybe he can get one from some G&P but I think that is less likely then a submission attempt. But the chances of either of those happening depend on the fight going to the ground, something I think it has hardly any chance of happening.

I see it as at least a 2 round fight. 1st round both will be cautious about making a mistake the other can capitalize on, and Bonnar takes a shot in the second round and Andy makes him look silly.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Anderson was last submitted in 2003 by rear naked choke after some good ground&pound. That was over 20 professional fights ago for Anderson, he's worked on his game a bit since then.

Takase caught him with Chael's favorite submission, not a RNC. I think Anderson's takedown defense is going to be much better from here on out. Watching round 2 in the last Sonnen fight, Anderson was finally prepared for the immediate blitz Chael kept coming at him with. He defended the takedowns beautifully, and that's all she wrote. He keeps getting smarter, his accuracy is off the damn charts right now. Bonnar is going to get teed off on.

Anderson's BJJ is good enough to hang with Bonnar's, but he probably won't need it. Make room at the end of the highlight reel.

[artmonkforHOF]

Takase caught him with Chael's favorite submission, not a RNC. I think Anderson's takedown defense is going to be much better from here on out. Watching round 2 in the last Sonnen fight, Anderson was finally prepared for the immediate blitz Chael kept coming at him with. He defended the takedowns beautifully, and that's all she wrote. He keeps getting smarter, his accuracy is off the damn charts right now. Bonnar is going to get teed off on.

Anderson's BJJ is good enough to hang with Bonnar's, but he probably won't need it. Make room at the end of the highlight reel.

My bad, it was a triangle. I agree with all of the above. Bonnard best shot, and it's not even that great of a shot is to use his BJJ, but it's a moot point because he will be lucky to take Silva down and be able to do something once he gets him down. He might get one takedown, but I dont see much beyond that for Bonnar. Silva rolls with big Nog & little Nog, I think he can handle a bigger guy in a BJJ fight, which again, would be a near miracle if it even gets there.

Plus side this is turning into a killer PPV card with 6 main card fights. Almost like they wanted to stack it after the last Brazil card was weak, even though it did well on tv in Brazil. 2 nice PPV cards in a row, haven't been able to say that for a while.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Yeah, 151 being cancelled was a blessing in disguise. Fatten up those cards, Dana.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

The Ultimate Fighter Season Googaplex starts tonight at 9. Friday night? Really? It is much more likely that I'm chillin at home watching TV on a Wednesday night.

[Finally]

Bonnar has absolutely no chance he will be knocked out less then a minute into the fight, he is a really nice guy and a tough fighter but is way over his head in this one.

[#98QBKiller]

In theory maybe, but too bad for Bonnar this is not a BJJ competition. Unless you count submitting to a flying scissors heel hook as having weak submission defense, Anderson was last submitted in 2003 by rear naked choke after some good ground&pound. That was over 20 professional fights ago for Anderson, he's worked on his game a bit since then. He has showed in the first Chael fight that a guy can get top position on him and not get off a submission attempt or any type of G&P that does significant damage, he controlled Chael from his back about as good as anyone could expect. Then in Chael 2 & Hendo, he showed he can even be taken down and not have top position for a round, come back and adjust in the second round.

Anderson's defense on his back is underrated IMO, I think he defends better in his back than most if not all guys in the UFC, so I don't see Bonnar being able to pull of a straight submission attempt. Maybe he can get one from some G&P but I think that is less likely then a submission attempt. But the chances of either of those happening depend on the fight going to the ground, something I think it has hardly any chance of happening.

I see it as at least a 2 round fight. 1st round both will be cautious about making a mistake the other can capitalize on, and Bonnar takes a shot in the second round and Andy makes him look silly.

I'm not saying that Bonnar will win, I'm just saying that BJJ is where he is going to have any advantage over Anderson at all. And also, just looking at Anderson's record and counting his submission losses doesn't really tell the full story. He's shown problems with grapplers in the past but has come back and won with his standup. He did a good job of correcting a lot of his ground woes from back in the day, there was a time when he was getting mounted and beat up on the ground by guys like Carlos Newton and Travis Lutter, only to come back and win, but the Nog bros got him back on track so his game is very well rounded now. I just think Bonnar's ground game is underrated.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Henderson vs. Machida in the works.

Love it. Machida's technical prowess vs. Hendo's tork. Don't think people will give Hendo enough of a chance in this one. Think he can definitely knock Machida out. Hendo can absorb a lot of shots before the **** hits the fan for him. He will get his chances. Hope it actually happens.

[#98QBKiller]

Joe Rogan got his non-10th planet black belt today from Jean Jacques Machado

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Joe Hogan, thatch guy, he'a smoka da heefer, he'a smoka da penicsh blood. He train wif Jean Jacques, thatch a good idea, thatch win him some fightch. Because Jean Jacques, he train wif the gi.

[tone_dubbz]

[pic]Joe Rogan Black Belt[pic]

That's dope. He had to put a lot of work in to get a black belt from Jean Jacques.

[Dr. Do Itch Big]

Who is your coach?

My instructor (Gustavo Machado) trained at Jean Jacques' academy too. Its funny, because they have the same last name but are not related.

What academy do you train at?

Matt Baker, I don't train anymore no money. Its called Bakersfield bjj. It's out here in California.

---------- Post added September-18th-2012 at 08:57 AM ----------

Big props to Joe Rogan.

[tone_dubbz]

Matt Baker, I don't train anymore no money. Its called Bakersfield bjj. It's out here in California.

---------- Post added September-18th-2012 at 08:57 AM ----------

Big props to Joe Rogan.

I feel you on that one. Just for the BJJ is a buck fifty. For the striking and jui jitsu is $200 a month. Pretty pricey. Especially since I'm married with a baby. Wifey was pissed when she heard how much I was spending.