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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    Closest we will come to a superfight will be Bones vs. Cormier, whether it happens at 205 or HW.

    Yeesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    Closest we will come to a superfight will be Bones vs. Cormier, whether it happens at 205 or HW.

    That's not really a superfight either. I like Cormier but at this point, a matchup with him doesn't carry the same weight as it does with one of the big three (Silva, GSP, Jones).

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    Call me crazy I believe Cromier would beat Bones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Do Itch Big View Post
    Call me crazy I believe Cromier would beat Bones.
    He would be a big test for sure. Jon has the edge standing, but Cormier should have the wrestling advantage. Bones has yet to be taken down though, he could be another GSP, somebody who schools wrestlers despite not having the greatest credentials.

    I would go Bones by decision at HW and late round tko at lhw right now if I had to pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuels View Post
    Why would he stand with them when he can take all 3 down at will.
    Because no one wants to see him wrestle for 5 rounds (at least I don't).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tone_dubbz View Post
    Because no one wants to see him wrestle for 5 rounds (at least I don't).
    I'm sure they can remember that when they are making another MMA movie. I doubt that any champions are building a strategy around what the fans want to see. Besides the UFC has Spider Silva and Junior Dos Santos for those that prefer their champions to remain standing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tone_dubbz View Post
    Because no one wants to see him wrestle for 5 rounds (at least I don't).
    I agree but he's not gonna take any risk. Its all about game planning to win anymore and its smart. Some guys use there speed to hit and run all fight while others dry hump you the whole fight.

    Its why I love guys like BJ Penn and Nick Diaz because they want to fight period but its not the smart approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    I'm sure they can remember that when they are making another MMA movie. I doubt that any champions are building a strategy around what the fans want to see. Besides the UFC has Spider Silva and Junior Dos Santos for those that prefer their champions to remain standing.
    The last thing on GSP's mind is what I want to see, so he doesn't have to be concerned about entertaining me.

    I said his strategy is effective and works for him, I'm saying that I'd rather see fighters stand and strike.....I guess that's just the kickboxer in me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samuels
    I agree but he's not gonna take any risk. Its all about game planning to win anymore and its smart. Some guys use there speed to hit and run all fight while others dry hump you the whole fight.

    Its why I love guys like BJ Penn and Nick Diaz because they want to fight period but its not the smart approach.
    GSP will always revert back to his strength, which is wrestling. Do I blame him, not at all. Is it exciting, not the least bit.

    And you're right, its fighter like BJ and Diaz that have a sick jitsu game but choose to strike instead which makes their fights exciting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tone_dubbz View Post
    The last thing on GSP's mind is what I want to see, so he doesn't have to be concerned about entertaining me.

    I said his strategy is effective and works for him, I'm saying that I'd rather see fighters stand and strike.....I guess that's just the kickboxer in me.
    I think the reason he doesn't stand much with real strikers is that he doesn't have a great chin. His standing skills otherwise seem to be good and he's one of the few fighters with a jab that can alter a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    I think the reason he doesn't stand much with real strikers is that he doesn't have a great chin. His standing skills otherwise seem to be good and he's one of the few fighters with a jab that can alter a fight.
    I don't blame him for not standing with elite strikers. He's made his fortune fighting smart and taking advantage of his strengths. And one of his weaknesses is that he doesn't have a great chin, so why risk it.

    I was just stating the obvious, that GSP does not want to stand with Silva, Diaz, or Hendricks because there is a good chance that he will get caught and it will be a wrap.

    That being sad, I did give GSP credit for recovering from that head kick from Condit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    Closest we will come to a superfight will be Bones vs. Cormier, whether it happens at 205 or HW.
    Holy christ I forgot about Cormier. Does he have an oppoent for that last Strikeforce card? is he even still on it? Man a 205 fighter or catchweight fight vs Jones would have been much better than a Chael fight.

    I think Cormier could grind out a win vs Jones, it won't be pretty though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artmonkforHOF View Post
    Holy christ I forgot about Cormier. Does he have an oppoent for that last Strikeforce card? is he even still on it? Man a 205 fighter or catchweight fight vs Jones would have been much better than a Chael fight.

    I think Cormier could grind out a win vs Jones, it won't be pretty though.
    He's fighting somebody named Dion Staring on that Strikeforce card, I estimate Cormier's wrestling dummy would give him a tougher fight.
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    UFC on Fox 5 coming up Saturday evening...

    Nate vs. Bendo
    Shogun vs. Gus
    BJ vs. Psycho
    Swick vs. Matt Brown

    Want to catch Phan vs. Siver on the undercard as well.

    I think BJ Penn will TKO Rory MacDonald. I think a lot of the aura surrounding Rory is because he tossed around Nate Diaz like a ragdoll. BJ won't be so "Diaz" in there when it comes to takedown defense. If he fights off some takedowns, I think Rory's in for a rude awakening.

    Shogun vs. Gus is a tough one, but I'll say either Gus wins a decision or Shogun puts his lights out.

    I want to bet money on Nate Diaz. Have wanted to ever since this match was put together. I think Bendo will get boxed up on the feet and eventually subbed on the ground. If he can get out of Nate's submissions, he might as well reveal his magical powers to the world. I'll pick Nate via domination.
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    I got Rory easily beating BJ. Penn will show well for the first round, then get dominated in the 2nd & 3rd as he begins to suck wind.

    I think Gus stops Shogun. Shogun been through too many wars and beatdowns, not sure how much more his body can withstand. He's not a hard guy to hit and Gus is a damn good striker.

    I'm going Nate over Benson as well. I think Benson will use his wrestling, but will get in trouble with Nate's bjj. Even if Benson survives the sub attempts, Nate will score points. Benson's best chance is to pin Nate against the cage and strike from the clinch, he would smother Nate's striking abilities and avoid Nate's ground game. Nate wins by decision though.
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    BJ at 170 has exactly 5 minutes to try and win the fight before he gasses and basically lays all over the octagon mat.

    I think Nate Diaz can win the fight and am rooting for him, however after his last couple of performances I don't think many are going to want to mix it up with him and I could see Benson going the Condit vs. Nick route and just trying to score shots and evacuate the area, maybe go for a few take downs, and be happy trying to ride out a decision.
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