Anything MMA, except thumb wrestling

[RammsteinSkins]

What time is PPV tonight? I might order it.

[StillUnknown]

there is a HUGE difference between gym strong and endurance strong.

his JJ hasnt improved that much in that short a period of time. not working out in the woods in MN.

Mir awesome at JJ?

he brought Rodrigo Medeiros out to the woods of MN to train him in JJ. its not like he's trying to learn offensive moves right now, he's mainly focused on sub D. Medeiros said in an interview he's really concentrating on sub D and the only offense moves they were doing were americana's and kimura's

everybody assumes if the fight goes deep, it will be lesnar who fades first, i'm not so sure i agree with that line of thinking

[BigMike619]

im off work..katie expect a text!!

sebowski, expect to buy me a burr!!!

6PM is when it starts.

[BigMike619]

he brought Rodrigo Medeiros out to the woods of MN to train him in JJ. its not like he's trying to learn offensive moves right now, he's mainly focused on sub D. Medeiros said in an interview he's really concentrating on sub D and the only offense moves they were doing were americana's and kimura's

everybody assumes if the fight goes deep, it will be lesnar who fades first, i'm not so sure i agree with that line of thinking

when youre that big and trying to move around for that long a period of time you fatigue. randy is an endurance machine...and always has been

peace!!

[Special K]

Katie, I followed him all thru the WWE when he was doing moonsaws as well. then followed him to the Vikings where he failed. I know Brock Lesnar very well. have you seen Randy's ears? He isnt a slouch either in wrassling so dont think that because Brock was good in college he is going to beat someone in MMA.

Specialist? Mir was just trying to save his career from going in the toilet because he had taken so long off from that motorcycle accident.

The second fight he had no JJ, what excuse you got there? he caught him with that big shot and then laid on him. sure he stayed behind him like any good wrestler should, but that dont mean **** when you arent doing damage.

Well, first of all, there's no way to judge a dude's true wrestling ability watching his fights on WWE. Furthermore, Brock was last cut from the Vikings after having not played in college...that kind of speaks to his level of athleticism right there.

I've watched Randy since he entered the UFC, and you are right, he is an incredible wrestler. Brock is too, his work ethic and training is comparable to Randy's. I've watched a lot of Brock's NCAA matches as Matt sent a bunch to me when Lesnar first joinged the UFC. After watching those and hearing Matt talk about his personal experience with the guy, I quickly realized that it was only a matter of time before Lesnar started dominating. And I'll agree that Randy is a very intelligent fighter, but just because Brock made mistakes in his first fight against Mir doesn't mean that he hasn't hired a team of trainers to work with him in his gym since that fight. One of the things Lesnar is best known for is his quick assimilation of athletic skills...and lifting anything you want him to. lol

And Mir, yes, he is a submission specialist. One of the best in fact. Check out his UFC career before the motorcycle accident.

[Special K]

edit: doubles can be stopped with a simple knee to the dome. ask the hawaiian dude (**** i cant remember his name) that shamrock caught with it. you cant knee to the dome in wrassling.

I wasn't meaning that he's going to use doubles in this fight. I was using it in the context that this guy is exceptionally athletic and he was known for certain moves in the NCAA...doubles being one of them. I think his athleticism and ability to dominate in specific areas will translate over well to MMA.

As for his fight with Herring...did he get submitted? Nope. He kept himself from getting submitted. And he didn't work on submitting Herring too much because his BJJ was still weak and he didn't want to make himself vulnerable to a counter submission. I see him doing the same thing in this fight.

[StillUnknown]

The second fight he had no JJ, what excuse you got there? he caught him with that big shot and then laid on him. sure he stayed behind him like any good wrestler should, but that dont mean **** when you arent doing damage.

Herring's camp said he was pissing blood the next day......thats damage done in my book

[Special K]

What time is PPV tonight? I might order it.

10pm EST

when youre that big and trying to move around for that long a period of time you fatigue. randy is an endurance machine...and always has been

You are right that Randy has great endurance. But Lesnar's no slouch either. You have to have just a little endurance to reach such an elite level in the NCAA

im off work..katie expect a text!!

Mike, expect a soon to be intoxicated reply.

[Special K]

he brought Rodrigo Medeiros out to the woods of MN to train him in JJ. its not like he's trying to learn offensive moves right now, he's mainly focused on sub D. Medeiros said in an interview he's really concentrating on sub D and the only offense moves they were doing were americana's and kimura's

Exactly

[Chachie]

I have a few buddies coming over for the fights so I won't be around but I'll check in late to see everyone's thoughts.

Nothing against Brock or Flo but GO COUTURE and GO DADDY!

[kiingspadee]

Brock Lesnar WILL be champ

[cjcdaman]

"Yeah, I'd like to order the UFC event"

"Okay, that is $44.95."

"Okay."

"Would you like it in HD?"

"Of course!"

"Okay, the total will be $54.95."

"Are you ****ing kidding me?"

"No"

"Give it to me in HD, but **** you."

LOL Go Randy!

[StillUnknown]

"Yeah, I'd like to order the UFC event"

"Okay, that is $44.95."

"Okay."

"Would you like it in HD?"

"Of course!"

"Okay, the total will be $54.95."

"Are you ****ing kidding me?"

"No"

"Give it to me in HD, but **** you."

LOL Go Randy!

that was wrong but still

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

15 minutes 'til post-time! Let's get this party started!

As far as Keeastman's point about Randy just being too small to perform jiu jitsu on Lesnar, please see Royce Gracie vs. Dan Severn. I know Randy isn't Royce, but he has 10 times the knowledge on the ground than Lesnar does. Question is, will Lesnar be able to sustain an effective burst of energy to negate Randy's technical prowess, if it stays down there?

As far as Lesnar pissing blood, SU, it was probably too much whiskey hitting his liver after such an embarassing tooling. Didn't see Lesnar do too much on the ground. Maybe he clipped his gooch or kidneys. And I don't care if you have every Gracie with a first name that starts with R teaching you jiu jitsu, you aren't going to pick up enough knowledge, flexability and technical ability to be comfortable in-fight within a year. It's one thing doing it in the gym, it's a whole new ballgame in a battle. But who knows? This fight already has me nervous.

[StillUnknown]

i think those knees Lesnar threw while Herring was on ground caused the bleeding, but your overall point is understood