Anything MMA, except thumb wrestling

[ZoEd]

You are writing all this without knowing what Randy thought about the fight whatsoever, which is kind of funny. When Randy renegotiated his contract and settled his differences with the organization, he wanted to immediately secure a match: he said as much in pre-fight interviews.

When you are 45, a few months in MMA can be an eternity, a lot can happen. Randy wanted to get back into the octagon before Mir and Nog finshed TUF and fought each other, where the winner might or might not have been injured and further prolonged the fight wiith Couture. In the interrim, it would kind of make sense to throw Lesnar into the mix as he was a rising star in the UFC and is a legit wrestler, fighter, athlete. Furthermore, it was an interesting matchup to see the strategies two elite wrestlers would bring to the fight with them. That is what I was looking forward to most.

By the way, who else would you suggest Randy have fought that night?


Yeah, I'd say that is an accurate statement.

It's a little absurd to say someone was pimped to the top of a rather weak division. It doesn't take a lot to work one's way up to the top, especially in a division with a champion and an interrim champion (Nog) already tied up into a fight with the other top guy in the division, Mir. Again, who else do you suggest fight Randy?


I don't understand how anyone with any knowledge of MMA whatsoever can deny that Lesnar has showed improvement in his fighting strategy and skill in each successive fight.

You're crush on Brock isn't too obvious.

For the millionth time, I'm not taking anything away from brocks physicality. Dude is one hell of an athlete and he has improved, anyone who has no job except training should. However, I don't think he's improved enough to be catapulted to the top of the division.

I'm really suprised that you feel so strongly about him being given a shot so early in the game. Someone with your knowledge and appreciation for the sport woud typically feel like someone needs to pay their dues before being allowed a title shot. If it wasn't for his WWE fame do you think it would have unfolded this way? Do you think he would have gotten this shot if he was simply a big dude who wrestled almost 10 years ago?

By the way, are you on the Randy speed dial list? Did he call you with his wishes for when and who to fight? Just wondering. Thought maybe you had some insider info. Either that or you're just making assumptions like the rest of us.

[lovetoaster]

I had a feeling that this would make an appearance when I mentioned Bob Sapp.

[Special K]

You're crush on Brock isn't too obvious.

For the millionth time, I'm not taking anything away from brocks physicality. Dude is one hell of an athlete and he has improved, anyone who has no job except training should. However, I don't think he's improved enough to be catapulted to the top of the division.

I'm really suprised that you feel so strongly about him being given a shot so early in the game. Someone with your knowledge and appreciation for the sport woud typically feel like someone needs to pay their dues before being allowed a title shot. If it wasn't for his WWE fame do you think it would have unfolded this way? Do you think he would have gotten this shot if he was simply a big dude who wrestled almost 10 years ago?

By the way, are you on the Randy speed dial list? Did he call you with his wishes for when and who to fight? Just wondering. Thought maybe you had some insider info. Either that or you're just making assumptions like the rest of us.

Yeah, well, you can keep talking about my "crush" on Brock but it doesn't make it true.

Couture is and always will be one of my favorite fighters. I have tremendous respect for him.

As for your question about "paying dues," and if I think he would have been in this situation if he had not been in the WWE...my answer is yes. Lesnar's popularity doesn't only stem from his WWE status, but from the fact that he is a freakishly athletic beastly looking guy. MMA fans have always loved that.

Let me ask you something, if Lesnar had not been a WWE star, would you take him a little more seriously? If he had gone straight from his NCAA win to MMA, would you take him more seriously? I suspect the answer would be "yes" as wrestling in the WWE tends to water down one's "serious contender" clout to many people.

I don't know why you seem so surprised that I am not against giving Lesnar a title shot. I already stated that it made sense beings that Nog and Mir were already tied into a fight with each other following TUF. You'd rather have Randy come back after renegotiating his contract and sit around and wait for the next several months to fight the winner of Nog and Mir? That makes no sense at all. In your haste to bash "redneck" fans for wanting to see Brock, you conveniently forget the fact fans wanted to see Couture again too...and sooner rather than later.

And yes, I'm on the Randy speed-dial list....or maybe I actually just listened to his interviews upon returning to the UFC and leading up to the fight with Lesnar where he said he was itching to get back into the octagon...kind of like I stated in my previous post about basing my opinion on Couture's actual interviews.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Randy Couture vs. Chuck Liddell IV possible at UFC 99

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/ufc...-germany-15288

Good things come to those who wait, and German mixed martial arts fans have had to wait for quite a while for the sport’s world leader, the UFC, to make its first inroads into the country.

The wait is over though.

The UFC will hold its first event in Germany on June 13 at the Lanxess Arena in Cologne, the biggest indoor venue in the country with a maximum capacity of 20,000 seats. A contract between Zuffa and Marek Lieberberg, Europe’s leading concert promoter, was signed during the passing of UFC 91 in Las Vegas over a week ago.

BloodyElbow.com was the first to break the news on Monday, with a proposed heavyweight matchup between UFC icons Randy Couture and Chuck Liddell the lead candidate for main event honors.

Zuffa LLC, parent company to the UFC, is pushing for the fourth meeting between the promotion’s two most recognizable stars because of Couture’s unparalleled life story and, above all, for his ability to convey it in the German language.

Starting at age 19, Couture spent over four of his six years of U.S. Army service stationed at the famed World War II "Fliegerhorst" base of Langendiebach in Erlensee, Germany.

Couture holds a single victory over the noted striker via a third-round TKO at UFC 43 in June 2003. Liddell knocked out Couture at UFC 52 and UFC 57 two years later.

Whether or not that bout materializes depends on how soon the four-time Olympic wrestling alternate wants to continue his fantastic 12-year career following the heartbreaking second-round loss he suffered at the hands of Brock Lesnar at UFC 91.

[StillUnknown]

i'm not interested in seeing them fight a 4th time, the trilogy was pretty definitive

[BigMike619]

i'm not interested in seeing them fight a 4th time, the trilogy was pretty definitive

x2.

UFC 99 - when old men cant let go.

[#98QBKiller]

x2.

UFC 99 - when old men cant let go.

x3

[SkinsOrlando]

Hell I'll watch it just for nostalgia, it was only a few short years ago when this was the match up we all wanted to see.

[BigMike619]

Hell I'll watch it just for nostalgia, it was only a few short years ago when this was the match up we all wanted to see.

are you gonna pay the 50 bucks for this to be the top fight on the card?

[SkinsOrlando]

Also, UFC 92 - When Sig Bets Rule ES

Hell of a card, Chachie start thinkin bout the match ups.

[SkinsOrlando]

are you gonna pay the 50 bucks for this to be the top fight on the card?

I haven't paid for a fight since Couture/Gonzaga so the answer is more than likely no.

[#98QBKiller]

Also, UFC 92 - When Sig Bets Rule ES

Hell of a card, Chachie start thinkin bout the match ups.

UFC 93 will have a couple of good betting bouts...

Shogun vs. Mark Coleman (@ LHW)

Franklin vs. Henderson

[StillUnknown]

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=7654&zoneid=2

Recently knocked off his featherweight perch by Mike Brown, Urijah Faber will make a quick turn and get right back in the cage on Jan. 25 at WEC 38. A little more surprising, however, may be whom he will be facing. Sources close to the bout tell MMAWeekly.com that Faber will rematch Jens Pulver at the San Diego event.

Although bout agreements have yet to be signed, sources indicate that both sides have verbally agreed to the rematch. Faber bested Pulver in a five-round war in their original outing on June 1 in Sacramento, Calif.

As mentioned, Faber is coming off of a knockout loss to current WEC featherweight champion Mike Brown. The defeat was his first as a featherweight and only the second of his career. Faber's first defeat was a lightweight bout against current UFC contender Tyson Griffin. He is still ranked No. 2 in the world as a featherweight.

Pulver is also coming off of a loss. At the same WEC 36 event in Hollywood, Fla., where Faber lost his title, Pulver lost his bid to return to contention. Greg Jackson-trained fighter Leonard Garcia – now the likely No. 1 contender to Mike Brown – TKO'd Pulver in the opening round.

given Pulver's recent struggles, i'm not that excited about this matchup. i think Faber should face a better opponent at 145.

[#98QBKiller]

Yeah, their first fight was great but it's too soon for a rematch and Pulver is on the downside of his career.

[lovetoaster]

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=7654&zoneid=2



given Pulver's recent struggles, i'm not that excited about this matchup. i think Faber should face a better opponent at 145.

I am not that thrilled either. I like them both, but I just do not think that this is the right time for them to fight again. There are a lot more interesting fights for Faber right now IMHO.