Anything MMA, except thumb wrestling

[Dance04]

Here you go man,

http://www.graciemag.com/news/144/AR...008-10-12.html

Oh and i forgot he is a black belt in Kyokushin Karate too.

Yeah, he's more then good at everything

[StillUnknown]

thanks for the link, good info

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

I'll be secretly rooting for GSP in this fight. The match is certainly gold, but I think it's a little too early for BJ to be moving up and fighting GSP. Before I go on, I just want to say that I'm excited and looking forward to this fight. This fight is kind of like being married and at the same time wanting to hummingbird-hump her friend with the big balloons. It's great to think about, but you shouldn't do it.

Well you get drunk, and decide to do it one night. And how amazing was it sticking your A-Rod in between her Madonnas? Problem is, you have a wife that has given you consistency and more than enough pleasure. You just HAD to see how it would be getting with the super hot chick. Now you have to come down off that high. Mega****, megafight they're both over and back to the same ole same ole. And the ring that you had to put back on your finger after using said finger to ram it up Mary Jane Rottoncrotches purty pink panties? If you have any ounce of conscience you'll feel like you just dinished its meaning.

If BJ loses, it diminishes the "undisputedness" of his lightweight title, as far as I'm concerned. He gets beat by GSP, and he's still champion? The simple fact that he can sit around and eat seaweed all day at the beach to gain 15 lbs enables him to fatten up to any weight class he wants to. Another thing, this fight, my friends, should be at a catch weight for both belts. If GSP wins and cannot cut to 155 to defend the lightweight belt? The answer is: Give it to Clay Guida. But you can't convince me 15 pounds of fat is the difference between why BJ would get 2 belts and GSP would only keep the one he currently has.

I'm rambling on, perhaps incoherently, but BJ hasn't defended his lightweight title. He has won 3 times in almost 2 1/2 years. Without bias, because I'm not a crazed fanatic of either of these guys, I have to say that their first fight wasn't as close as EVERYBODY thinks it was. GSP got his "busted up" face from a grazing shot and a poke in the eye. He lost round 1, but it wasn't a huge beatdown. Erase the blood and the round is much closer. I cannot see how Penn won round 2, that argument baffles me to this day. As far as I'm concerned, Cecil People's judgment of the fight going Penn's way has planted a seed in the people who are infatuated with BJ Penn. He didn't win, it wasn't really that close, either.

That said, if BJ wins and ends up defending both of these belts over the next year or two, there will be a small-caliber hostage situation going on. Having to cut and gain weight back and forth, defending the titles MAYBE twice a year, respectively. I do not like rooting against great fighters unless they have a bad attitude, but BJ, if the hype is true and you start to dominate Fedor-style, I'll have to start rooting against you for the sake of a lively UFC.

[StillUnknown]

If BJ loses, it diminishes the "undisputedness" of his lightweight title, as far as I'm concerned. He gets beat by GSP, and he's still champion? The simple fact that he can sit around and eat seaweed all day at the beach to gain 15 lbs enables him to fatten up to any weight class he wants to. Another thing, this fight, my friends, should be at a catch weight for both belts. If GSP wins and cannot cut to 155 to defend the lightweight belt? The answer is: Give it to Clay Guida. But you can't convince me 15 pounds of fat is the difference between why BJ would get 2 belts and GSP would only keep the one he currently has.

i was with you until i read that paragraph

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

i was with you until i read that paragraph

Other than a few sarcastic comments, I'm basically saying if BJ loses, it will be odd seeing him still have a belt. I know this is in the welterweight division, but this is a win-win situation for him. BJ has nothing to lose and GSP has everything to lose. Kind of a lopsided trade-off, IMO. I know they do this all the time in boxing, but some boxers have so many belts it looks like a department store on their shoulder. And I assume it takes forever for a champion of multi-divisions to defend them one after another.

Sure, the idea of a catch weight is far-fetched, but it would resolve this lopsided trade-off. GSP hasn't fought in lightweight, but if he wins it, tell him to toss the belt if he doesn't want to defend it. That would make for a nice little tournament that the UFC lightweight division desperately needs.

[StillUnknown]

Other than a few sarcastic comments, I'm basically saying if BJ loses, it will be odd seeing him still have a belt. I know he won the lightweight belt, but this is a win-win situation for him. BJ has nothing to lose and GSP has everything to lose. Kind of a lopsided trade-off, IMO. I know they do this all the time in boxing, but some boxers have so many belts it looks like a department store on their shoulder. And I assume it takes forever for a champion of multi-divisions to defend them one after another.

Sure, the idea of a catch weight is far-fetched, but it would resolve this lopsided trade-off. GSP hasn't fought in lightweight, but if he wins it, tell him to toss the belt if he doesn't want to defend it. That would make for a nice little tournament that the UFC lightweight division desperately needs.

BJ does have something to lose. he wants to be regarded as the best ever, another loss to GSP and that can't happen.

you can't fight for a title in which you cannot physically make the weight for. it happens in boxing sure because the divisions are like 4lbs apart from each other. this is and will remain a rare situation in MMA. and besides Alves, GSP has pretty much cleaned the WW division so it makes sense to give the fans the fight they want to see most, especially when the first fight is seen as disputed by many

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

BJ does have something to lose. he wants to be regarded as the best ever, another loss to GSP and that can't happen.

you can't fight for a title in which you cannot physically make the weight for. it happens in boxing sure because the divisions are like 4lbs apart from each other. this is and will remain a rare situation in MMA. and besides Alves, GSP has pretty much cleaned the WW division so it makes sense to give the fans the fight they want to see most, especially when the first fight is seen as disputed by many

I know he wants to be regarded as the best ever, and that STILL won't happen if he beats GSP.

Give the fans what they want, yes. Or they'll hiss and boo, God forsaken American fans. I'd like to see fairness in the UFC. Machida should have had his title shot already, Werdum should have had a title shot before he got pegged by Dos Santos, Florian should be fighting BJ in about a month for the belt. But it's a popularity contest. Give me the Yankees and Red Sox, screw the Devil Rays and Phillies. I've always been huge on trying to get people to become bigger fans of the sport, but there are titles to be defended before weight division hopscotch ensues.

As I said, my idea is far-fetched. I was talking out of my ass, trying to create an idea to make this more of a win-lose situation for both parties. Especially since BJ is getting a golden ticket in to this fight, IMO.

I wonder if Tito would get a title shot if he came back in to the UFC for getting a Draw with Rashad Evans.

[Chachie]

Well you get drunk, and decide to do it one night. And how amazing was it sticking your A-Rod in between her Madonnas? Problem is, you have a wife that has given you consistency and more than enough pleasure. You just HAD to see how it would be getting with the super hot chick. Now you have to come down off that high. Mega****, megafight they're both over and back to the same ole same ole. And the ring that you had to put back on your finger after using said finger to ram it up Mary Jane Rottoncrotches purty pink panties? If you have any ounce of conscience you'll feel like you just dinished its meaning.

Who are you and what have you done with d0ubleStr0ke?

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Who are you and what have you done with d0ubleStr0ke?

I'll quote Sheryl Crow, "I like a good beer buzz early in the morning".

[StillUnknown]

its not that surprising that Machida hasn't gotten a title shot yet. he's riding undefeated, but its not like he's fought top level guys (with the exception of Rich Franklin). I love Machida, but the man couldn't even finish David Heath (whom babalu choked unconscious & Tim Boetsch threw like a rag doll....david heath is made to be finished)

he has a victory over sokodjou which diminshes every time sokodjou fights & tito who was a fringe top 10 at the time. i think he should definitely get a shot if he beats Thiago, but i could fully understand the argument against him (especially when you factor in the at times not so exciting style)

the last thing Dana wants is another champion like Sherk who gets boo'd for 5 rounds as he defends his title

[BigMike619]

I'll quote Sheryl Crow, "I like a good beer buzz early in the morning".

quoting sheryl crow in a MMA thread?

[NoCalMike]

What is wrong with BJ Penn holding and defending two belts? No one seems to have a problem with the prospect of Anderson Silva doing the same thing, now that he has begun fighting at 205. I mean if he keeps fighting at 205 it is only a matter of time before he gets a title shot.(Unless he gets beat back down to 185)

MMA as a sport is still in it's infancy, it needs stars. It's needs guy skilled enough that they can do these types of things. The masses don't watch a sport where the belts are traded every other fight because no single fighter is THAT much better then the next. The masses want a champion to dominate the competition for awhile, until the next young dominant champ comes up and takes their place.

[Chachie]

What is wrong with BJ Penn holding and defending two belts? No one seems to have a problem with the prospect of Anderson Silva doing the same thing, now that he has begun fighting at 205. I mean if he keeps fighting at 205 it is only a matter of time before he gets a title shot.(Unless he gets beat back down to 185)

Although your point is perfectly valid, I believe Silva was only fighting once at 205 for a lark. Otherwise Rich Franklin would have to find another organization.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Again, the popularity issue. Although, it does cost too much to buy a pay-per-view or tickets to watch a methodical fighter like Machida stroll his way to a decision. I understand your point. But I thought he deserved a shot at the title when you factor out that he isn't the most physically thrilling fighter out there.

Although, I find him super-exciting to watch fight because of how incredibly savvy he is on his feet. I think Machida singlehandedly destroyed any confidence Sokodjou had.

Dana is a smart businessman, I cannot take that away from him, but what I will say is that there are things purists are rolling their collective eyes at. I know I'm in the minority here, but I'll stand my ground that this fight was thrown together too fast. For business sake? Great timing, for fairness' sake, a little disappointing.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

What is wrong with BJ Penn holding and defending two belts? No one seems to have a problem with the prospect of Anderson Silva doing the same thing, now that he has begun fighting at 205. I mean if he keeps fighting at 205 it is only a matter of time before he gets a title shot.(Unless he gets beat back down to 185)

MMA as a sport is still in it's infancy, it needs stars. It's needs guy skilled enough that they can do these types of things. The masses don't watch a sport where the belts are traded every other fight because no single fighter is THAT much better then the next. The masses want a champion to dominate the competition for awhile, until the next young dominant champ comes up and takes their place.

I already stated my qualm with it. We will be lucky to see each belt defended twice in one year. Snore. If people need fighters to have two belts to become a fan, then obviously they are just casual fans that won't really have an effect on the sport's longtime success. I only content with Anderson leaving MW because the division has been stifled by him. BJ has yet to defend his belt.