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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoEd View Post
    Thank you 99!

    Hell, who has Edgar fought except Penn?

    In recent years Silva? Who has he fought that was a legit contender?

    Rashad Evans? Seriously?

    Fitch?

    All good fighters, extremely good but who have they fought?

    I'm actually getting pretty sick of the "who has he fought" crowd. It's MMA. To go undefeated that long in this sport is nothing short of amazing. This ain't boxing where you can dance around for 12 rounds, score some points and tie someone up. Wait a minute, didn't the P4P best do that his last three fights? Silva anyone.
    i agree completely about the "who has he fought" argument. it allows for too much revisionist history. the sad part is, those with that argument can't even stay consistent. they ignore the fact that when Fedor fought Timmay, Timmay was still in the top 10 of every ranking around, Arlovski was in the top 3 of every ranking when he fought Fedor.

    of course the UFC could make things alot easier on everybody if they had their own official rankings, but then Dana wouldn't be able to justify giving Cote, Leites, Dan Hardy, etc title shots
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    Fedor shouldn't have dropped out of the top 10, that's a payoff from the UFC.

    Any hunches for the big fight this weekend? How about Leben vs. The sex?

    I've been thinking Carwin for so long, I think he can delay Lesnar's takedowns and use the fence enough to turn him around and beat him up. That, or he just lands a bomb. Obviously the fight is almost a coin flip...anybody know the Vegas odds?

    I'll go with Akiyama, but I'm rooting for Leben. Kid reminds me of a punk-rocker Wanderlei Silva. Just brawl and eat shots...hell yes. Akiyama is one of those rare talented striking Japanese. Him being fresh and Leben coming off a pretty tough fight could definitely be a factor.

    If Leben wins he's officially one of my favorite fighters. Chachie will be proud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0ublestr0ker0ll View Post
    Fedor shouldn't have dropped out of the top 10, that's a payoff from the UFC.

    Any hunches for the big fight this weekend? How about Leben vs. The sex?

    I've been thinking Carwin for so long, I think he can delay Lesnar's takedowns and use the fence enough to turn him around and beat him up. That, or he just lands a bomb. Obviously the fight is almost a coin flip...anybody know the Vegas odds?

    I'll go with Akiyama, but I'm rooting for Leben. Kid reminds me of a punk-rocker Wanderlei Silva. Just brawl and eat shots...hell yes. Akiyama is one of those rare talented striking Japanese. Him being fresh and Leben coming off a pretty tough fight could definitely be a factor.

    If Leben wins he's officially one of my favorite fighters. Chachie will be proud.
    Lesnar is floating around a -170-200 favorite for the fight

    i'm going with Carwin mainly because timing is usually the last thing to comeback after a long layoff. carwin by (T)KO in round 2 is what i'm leaning towards at the moment

    i think Akiyama will be smart enough not to exchange with Leben and his judo will be good enough to get him on the ground and keep him there for a decision or maybe even a submission
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    The question is, can Carwin catch Brock, as Brock explodes in for the takedown. I doubt Brock is going to try and stand & trade. We've seen Couture's dirty boxing back Brock off, so imagine if Carwin connects.

    With that said, if Brock is able to get Carwin down, and get a dominant position, I see little chance of Carwin being able to recover.

    I am still having a hard time picking this fight, but I think part of it is because I think it is one of those instances where if these guys fought 10 times I could easily see it going five a piece. When you have guys this massive, it almost seems like it will come down to who connects first, or who gases out first. I don't think we are going to see a lot of "skill" on display.
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    I'm so torn on who I think will win this matchup. I know Carwin's got engine blocks for hands and Lesnar's chin hasn't been tested but I think his neck will keep his brain from jarring. You gotta move that head for a concussion to occur and I wonder if Brock's head moves when it's hit.

    I also agree with those who say once Lesnar gets on top of you, there's really no way to do anything to stop him from pounding you out.

    Having said all that, I think Brock is a big baby. I hope he gets flattened.


    Edit- There's also zero doubt in my mind that if Brock loses, he'll blame it on the diverticulitis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    i'm going with Carwin mainly because timing is usually the last thing to comeback after a long layoff. carwin by (T)KO in round 2 is what i'm leaning towards at the moment

    i think Akiyama will be smart enough not to exchange with Leben and his judo will be good enough to get him on the ground and keep him there for a decision or maybe even a submission
    I agree with these two predictions. Like everyone else, I could see the main event going either way but Brock's been out of the ring for almost exactly a year and he went several months without any training whatsoever. I think Carwin will be better prepared from a technique perspective, although I don't expect him to look like Ali out there moving around the cage.

    I agree about Akiyama, I think he'll protect himself and get into the clinch with Leben and control him from there. He can probably tire Leben out after a round or two of clinching and forcing himself into dominant positions. I really wish this was Wand fighting though.

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    this event will really tell how big of a ppv draw lesnar is. this is truly a card where everyone is paying for one fight
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    If Brock shoots and takes Carwin down it's over. Brock isn't the kind of guy you can shrug off. He has crazy power on the ground. If Brock tries to stand and bang with Carwin he goes to sleep.

    My guess? The rust is thick enough to slow down Brock and he gets put to sleep in the 1st round. Carwin becomes the only current champion with a day job.

    I think Akiyama got screwed when Leben agreed to step in. I think he's more dangerous than the Ax murderer at this stage of his career. Leben steps into a win win situation here; if he loses it's expected, if he wins he's a hero. He'll be throwing bombs in the ring because the pressure is all on Akiyama.

    I think Akiyama is dumb enough to exchange with Leben and he goes to sleep in round 3.

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    http://mmajunkie.com/news/19762/quin...120-likely.mma

    Quinton "Rampage" Jackson (30-8 MMA, 5-2 UFC) and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (19-3 MMA, 2-0 UFC) have agreed to meet in an upcoming light-heavyweight superfight, though an exact date hasn't been decided for the bout.

    Sources close to the competitors told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) verbal agreements are in place but that bout agreements have not been distributed.

    And though the fight would appear a perfect headliner for September's UFC 119 event, a source said October UFC 120 or UFC 121 slots are also possibilities.

    UFC 119 takes place Sept. 25 in Indianapolis, and UFC 120 takes place Oct. 16 in London. UFC 121, meanwhile, is still in the planning stages but expected in late October or early November.

    Jackson, a former UFC light-heavyweight champion, recently returned from a 14-month layoff and dropped a unanimous decision to Rashad Evans at UFC 114. The loss (his first since losing his belt to Forrest Griffin in 2008) followed a knockout victory over Wanderlei Silva and a decision win over Keith Jardine.

    Now in need of a quality win to get back in the title picture, Jackson meets a fellow ex-PRIDE star in Nogueira. "Little Nog," the twin brother of former UFC champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, made his UFC debut in 2009 and has since earned a TKO win over Luiz Cane at UFC 106 and a controversial split-decision victory over Jason Brilz and UFC 114.

    Although the Brilz victory came with heavy criticism (he won via scores 28–29, 29–28 and 29–28 despite Brilz's impressive showing), Nogueira owns a seven-fight win streak stretching back to his days with Affliction and World Victory Road.
    i would rather see him fight Machida
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    Rampage moving to heavyweight. Hmm....one time special attraction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoCalMike View Post
    Rampage moving to heavyweight. Hmm....one time special attraction?
    he's fighting Lil Nog
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    Oops.....yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    he's fighting Lil Nog

    I think Jackson should retire. He looked truly uninspired vs Rashad Evans. Aside from his puncher's chance (which admittedly is huge) he doesn't have the heart to play chess for 3 rounds anymore. Forget about 5.

    (I also think the Wolfs Lair has crippled his game.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
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    i would rather see him fight Machida
    I'd rather see Rampage-Thiago Slva, but Lil Nog will be great. Better than a Machida fight, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    this event will really tell how big of a ppv draw lesnar is. this is truly a card where everyone is paying for one fight
    He is a big draw. I've had friends texting me this week that haven't come over for a ppv in a long time asking me if I still get the fights.

    I know I am pumped for it.

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