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    It's not just about land

    By Victor Davis Hanson http://www.JewishWorldReview.com |

    Despite the claims of terrorist organizations, Israel's current two-front war is not just about land. After all, Hezbollah and Hamas fired rockets from Lebanon and Gaza well after Israel had withdrawn from both places. Indeed, if sacred Arab ground were the driving force of the Middle East crisis, then surely Syria itself would now be willing to risk a shooting war over the all important Israeli-occupied Golan Heights. Meanwhile, Cairo is still perhaps the nexus of virulent Arab anti-Semitism, even though Israel finished handing over Sinai to Egypt in 1982. The world prayed that after the unilateral departure of Israel from Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005, and the recent elections in Beirut and the West Bank, it was witnessing an incremental evolution toward a lasting peace between rational democratic states. Gradually, Israel was returning to its 1967 borders. In response, gradually, it was hoped, Israel's Arab neighbors would vote into office reasonable statesmen who would renounce terror and get on with the business of crafting workable economies and governments. But all that optimism presupposed a radical change in the Middle Eastern mentality. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened.

    So, if the most recent war in Lebanon and Gaza is not about land per se, then whence arises the elemental desire to destroy Israel? The answer boils down to Islamists feeling their reputation is at stake. Words like "honor" and "pride" are evoked — in the sense that they need to be regained — by every insecure radical in the Islamic world, from al-Qaida's Osama bin Laden to Hezbollah's Hassan Nasrallah and Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Fist-shaking crowds, fiery mullahs and terrorists all boast of not giving an inch to infidels, and of the restoration of the now sullied honor of the Islamic people. For about the last half-century, globalization has passed most of the recalcitrant Middle East by — economically, socially and politically. The result is that there are now few inventions and little science emanating from the Islamic world — but a great deal of poverty, tyranny and violence. And rather than make the necessary structural changes that might end cultural impediments to progress and modernity — such as tribalism, patriarchy, gender apartheid, polygamy, autocracy, statism and fundamentalism — too many Middle Easterners have preferred to embrace the reactionary past and the cult of victimization.


    At one time or another, they have welcomed all the bankrupt ideologies that traditionally blame others for prior self-induced failure: fascism, communism, Baathism, Pan-Arabism and, most recently, Islamic fundamentalism. When there is high unemployment, corruption, zero economic growth, endemic illiteracy and no freedom, mullahs, dictators and jihadists of the Middle East always seem to fault the ancient colonial power — Britain, France or Italy (though rarely Islamic Turkey) — that supposedly set them back over a century ago. Or they try blaming the omnipotent United States whose oilmen developed the riches of the Gulf and whose military has saved Muslims from Kosovo to Kuwait. But above all, for decades leaders like Gamal Nasser, Ayatollah Khomeini, Saddam Hussein, Yasser Arafat and Osama bin Laden have scapegoated tiny Israel. It is the closest Western bogeyman, and its Holocaust survivors transformed a part of desert into a technologically sophisticated Western state. Israel's astounding success is a constant irritant to many nearby Muslims, representing the infidel's ability to fashion a prosperous Middle Eastern society without oil revenues under democratic auspices. Victimization turns out to be the real creed of the Middle East, uniting disparate Shiites, Sunnis, dictators, theocrats and terrorists. "They did it to us" offers an easy explanation of why Islamic states are now weak and offer little hope to millions of their poor, who, ironically, emigrate to the much pilloried West by the millions. American cash aid, Israeli concessions, windfall petrol profits and, most of all, appeasement of radical Islamists can do nothing to alleviate these perceived grievances. Instead, there will be no peace in the general Middle East until Iranians and Arabs have true constitutional government, free institutions, open markets and the rule of law. Without these reforms, they will continue to fail, seeking easy refuge in the shreds of mythical ancestral honor — and this pathetic neurosis of blaming nearby Israel for the loss of it.

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    Loved the read..

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    Victor Davis Hanson is a professor at Stanford- and one of the smartest and most accurate writers on military affairs.

    Every word of that article is spot on accurate.

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    Link? How many times do I have to ask AFC? Everytime you post an article, post the link!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartskins
    Link? How many times do I have to ask AFC? Everytime you post an article, post the link!
    Iheart, give him a break, he's a Lieutenant

    It takes them awhile sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartskins
    Link? How many times do I have to ask AFC? Everytime you post an article, post the link!
    Doesn't this count as a link?

    http://www.JewishWorldReview.com

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    No, because that wouldn't fly if you just put www.cnn.com and had the title from an article that's difficult to find.

    Its just common board courtesy.

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    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0806/hanson080306.php3

    Quote Originally Posted by Bufford
    No, because that wouldn't fly if you just put www.cnn.com and had the title from an article that's difficult to find.

    Its just common board courtesy.
    Definitely true for tomorrow, but for today its 3 down on the main page in big print... Links are good.... personal opinions with the links are gooood...
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    I understand. But, if this thread lasts until tomorrow and somebody new clicks on the link, it might not be there.

    Here, I'll do it.

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0806/hanson080306.php3

    done and done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bufford
    I understand. But, if this thread lasts until tomorrow and somebody new clicks on the link, it might not be there.

    Here, I'll do it.

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0806/hanson080306.php3

    done and done.
    I agreed with you, and some with the opinion part.. I also added the link above... All the work we have to do because AFC does a drive by post, I tell yah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bufford
    No, because that wouldn't fly if you just put www.cnn.com and had the title from an article that's difficult to find.

    Its just common board courtesy.
    Did you click on the link and have a tough time finding it? Or are we making an issue where there isn't one?

    Here...so nobody has to miss this gem...

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0806/hanson080306.php3
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    You're late.

    The point was not for today, but for tomorrow and the future when that story isn't on their frontpage.

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    As told by Victor Davis Hanson

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    Iran’s Supreme Leader warns U.S. of impending jihadWed. 02 Aug 2006Iran Focus

    Tehran, Iran, Aug. 02 – Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei blasted United States policy in the Middle East and warned of an impending Muslim “jihad”, or holy war, against the West. “Today, it is clear for everyone that the aggression against Lebanon was a premeditated U.S.-Zionist action as a key step in the path of dominating the Middle East and the Islamic world”, Khamenei said. His comments were reported in the official news agency IRNA and aired in part on state television on Wednesday.“Today, Muslim nations more than ever despise the U.S.”, he said.

    “With its support of the Zionists crimes and criminals and its blatant aggression against the rights of Muslim nations, the U.S. regime must be prepared for a hard slap and a destructive punch by Muslims”, Khamenei said.“The U.S. is following a policy of creating insecurity, crisis, and war in the region”, he said, adding, “It must know that the more it expands insecurity, the more it will arouse the anger of nations against it and make the world insecure for itself”.

    Khamenei praised the Lebanese militia Hezbollah for taking part in a “jihad” against the “enemies of Islam”, stating that the group was on the “frontline” of the defence of Muslims.“ The aggressive actions and nature of the U.S. and Israel will revive the spirit of resistance in the Islamic world and will make the value of jihad more prevalent for it”, Khamenei added. “Islamic Iran believes resistance against American bullying and aggression and mischief by Israel to be its duty and will stand alongside all oppressed nations, especially the dear people of Lebanon and the combatant Palestinian nation”, he added.

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