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    Default Redskins Fans @ Eagles at the Linc

    It was approaching 7:30 AM as we drove last ten miles in I-95 and approached the Linc. The area was very industrial and very ugly. I kept thinking this is just an area, but the whole region seemed to be -- just ugly and run down. It was foggy and dreary and it was just eerie.

    "We're entering the depths of hell", I told my daughter.

    We took the Exit 17 Broad street ramp and I needed gasoline badly, so I drove past the lot a few blocks and found gas. I pumped it in, then put the Redskins car flags on my truck and got ready to leave. My 17-year old daughter said "Dad, look!" There was a window on the second floor of this run down building next door, it must have been an apartment building. This guy in an undershirt behind a dirty stained window was giving us the finger.

    We got to the Wachovia lot early. They have a great tailgate setup. You can get there as early as you want, even 5 AM if you want to. The lot is always open, an Eagles fan told me. They're not allowed to close it, for some reason, he said.

    Macs-a-Skins-fan beat me there. He was there by 7 AM and there were already hundreds of Eagles fans in the lot, set up, and cooking. It was amazing that there were so many of them so early. I got there around 7:40 or so. I came in and it was peaceful, not like when I arrived around noon last year.

    It started off very nice. I had some genuinely nice conversations with a number of Eagles fans early in the morning. They were warm and friendly and hospitable. It was a little strange, because it wasn't like this in 2005.

    Everything was nice and civil until about 10:30 or so, when the Eagles fans started getting liquored up. Then an egg hit my camp stove. It seemed to drop out of the sky. This continued, rougly about every fifteen minutes: One egg would drop out of the sky. We never saw one in flight. Just, SPLAT! It was frustrating and intimidating.

    A cop drove by during the tailgate, and asked if we were okay. "No", I said, "Somebody's throwing eggs at us." We didn't know who exactly, they were sort of falling out of the sky like mortars. The cop just laughed. "Don't worry about that", he said. "When you see guns and bricks, call me."

    He drove off and we never saw him again.

    Things started to go downhill fast. Guys were coaxing us into fights by pushing buttons. Most of us let it role off our shoulders, some of us didn't. No fights actually started, but the whole in-your-face angry yelling with fists clenched thing went on for a long while. Twice I took off my jersey in preparation of defending (i.e. breaking up the fight) one of my Redskins brothers. Thankfully, it never got to that point.

    This never happened last year.

    "***-****, ***-****, ***-****...", started up (rhymes with "bass" and "whole"). It's said in long syllables and chanted in unison. And it comes from all directions anytime a Redskins fan leaves his camp. It is extremely intimidating because there are hundreds, thousands of them. This chant, loud and omni-directional, became a regular part of the tailgate.

    Items were stolen. We're all standing around cooking and talking and minding our own business. This Eagles fan walked up and tried to steal one of my car flags. I think it was Donita who stopped him, so he reached in my truck and grabbed a Redskins folding chair case thing. He picked it up, smiled. Started walking away, then jogging, then running through a sea of Eagles tailgaters and was gone. I never saw it again. That was uncalled for and it pissed me off.

    If you leave your camp for whatever reason, you become vulnerable. What they do when they see you, an opposing fan in their "turf", they size you up and look for something they can use to insult you. In one Redskins fan's case, they saw he had a young daughter, I think she's nine years old. Therefore they insulted her using the loudest and foulest language possible. They also saw Mac's hat, saw he was a military vet, and therefore insulted the military and America, for no other reason but because they knew it would push his buttons.

    In Donita's case, she's African-American. So out come the racial slurs.

    If you're a little heavy, if you have crooked teeth, if you have a mole on your chin, out come the insults, loud and vulgar and in your face. It's all about taunting and intimidation and coaxing you into a fight that's impossible to win. And understand, you're just walking across the parking lot, doing nothing but walking to an NFL game to support your team!

    Regarding the Linc's rules in the stadium as far as no vulgar language will be tolerated, that's an outright lie. There was no enforcement of that what-so-ever. That rule is a joke. You can take that rule and throw it right out the window.

    During the game, there were very very few visible Redskins fans. I know for a fact there were more than what we saw, because more than HALF (probably a whole lot more) of the Redskins fans in the Linc don't wear their colors visibly. I remember that from last year.

    The first ten minutes, the Redskins actually played okay. The Redskins made a first down. I stood up, as I do, and signaled first down.

    "YOU GODDAMN ****** (disparaging word for male homosexual), SIT YOUR ******* ASS DOWN, YOU ******* *****." Etc.

    During the game, the Eagles have their fight song "FLY EAGLES FLY, ON THE ROAD TO VIC-TO-RY", etc., and they have various videos on the big jumbotron showing the words to the song as the song played. The song is sung by what sounds like an Army: A thousand deep-voiced men -- it sounds like a military marching song being played on the speakers. No musicial instruments, just a battalion of men singing. At one point, one of the videos was a black and white video showing German WWII-type gothic fonts with the words to the song, and the video had speckled spots and imperfections in it like they were trying to make it look like an old 1940s news reel. To me, it was like they were trying to mimic the 1939 Nazi party. It was obvious to me that this is what they were trying to do. And there is no doubt in my mind this is EXACTLY their intention. And I have to admit it was powerful. You could feel the power and the unity all around you. Again, the intimidation. I wonder if Snyder noticed this and what his thoughts were?

    There's something else, and this is a little weird, but I noticed this early in the tailgate, and later on the way home, I talked to my daughter, and she noticed the same thing independently, as did Donita who I've talked to in PMs. Donita saw ONE (1) African-American Eagles fan the entire day. Where are all the minorities? The WHOLE STADIUM and lot is filled with whites! I don't remember seeing one minority Eagles fan in that stadium anywhere. In fact, not only were they all white, but they all had these bright blue eyes! It was blue-eyed city everywhere. And we're talking about thousands of people. Tens of thousands. What is that all about? I don't understand this.

    Edit: Thinking about it, I do remember one African-American woman: She was working the ticket booth at the lot gate.

    I've been to over a hundred Redskins games, but I had never been so ashamed to be a Redskins fan, as during that walk back from my stadium seat to my truck in the lot in the rain. Just my daughter and I, alone, walking among a sea of green. It was truly humiliating.

    I also felt betrayed.

    If that wasn't bad enough, the taunts still rained down, loud and vulgar and in our faces. You'd think 3 + touchdowns would be enough. There is no such thing as sportsmanship in that town.

    "GET THE **** OUT OF MY LOT! GET THE **** OUT OF MY TOWN! REDSKINS SUCK! YOU SUCK! YOU ******* *****!", etc. This is being yelled at the top of their lungs at you from five feet away while you're walking across the lot with your daughter with your head down in the rain.

    I forgot to take off the magnets on my truck. My fault. Of course, they were gone.

    To be fair though, I will admit that most of the Eagles fans were passive towards us. It was a minority of Eagles fans that made all the noise and used all the vulgarity. But it was a LARGE minority. And when they're all chanting like that, it seems like everybody is doing it.

    There's no real way to repay them. That's because, like it or not, Eagles fans are 100x more hardcore than Redskins fans. That's the way it is, and nothing will ever change that. I don't know if it has to do with economics or race or their recent SB appearance or what. The Eagles fans will run over FedExField on Dec 10th and they will seemingly dominate the stadium. No Eagles fan will wear his jersey underneath a neutral colored jacket. If they win, they will sing loudly on the ramps and laugh in our faces and nothing will quiet them.

    Stooping to their level, though, will accomplish nothing. I think the main thing we (they) need is enforcement of their own rules and laws in and around their stadium. That would help a whole lot. They have a long way to go in that area.

    In the end, no blood was spilled, and no vandalism to our vehicles, both of which amazed me. One fan had the air let out of his tires, but no damage.

    On the way home, I felt bad for my 17 year old daughter. We were beaten badly in every way imaginable, except being personally physically assaulted.

    I asked her if she was at all interested in going next year.

    "Absolutely! You bet! We're there!!!", she said, grinning ear-to-ear.

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    Default Re: Redskins Fans @ Eagles at the Linc

    Glad to see those morons still dont have any class

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    Sorry you had such a ****y time, man. The eagles fans may be hardcore, but are mostly completely classless (not all of course). I was trying to rally some friends of mine to go down to the game, but everyone seems too intimidated to go there as we are loud and proud Skins fans, and would probably inspire the worst of thier fury. If it helps, and I'm sure it was pointed out, I just ask eagle fans how many super bowls they've won, and that usually shuts them up (though probably not in the stink with all thier racist idiot friends egging them on)...

    Good for you for going though, Maybe I'll join you guys next year... There's some solidarity in numbers, even if those numbers don't favor you....

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    this guy is dead on. i saw all of this while walking through the parking lot wearing my marcus washington jersey. we didnt get it as bad as this, but it definitely wasnt a super experience. if we had won, i surely would have been assualted, no question about it. the people there are insane.

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    Eagles fans suck. End of story.

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    Default Re: Redskins Fans @ Eagles at the Linc

    I make certain to blatantly display my colors whenever Im in that town and I like to flip off the stadium whenever I drive passed it. However, my dad's stories of their old stadium are enough for me, I don't need to experience that crap for myself.
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    What can you say about scum? They are what they are and they aren't going to change based upon any of our opinions. As Cooley once said Philly fans are from a different world - the only place he had ever seen a little old granny yelling F-you and giving him the finger!

    BTW - while they may use Nazi propaganda methods there's nothing wrong with having blue eyes. What's with that????

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    Only way to "repay" them is to beat them when they come down here

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    Default Re: Redskins Fans @ Eagles at the Linc

    Thanks for posting, i enjoyed reading that. Well it doesnt sound like you had a terrible time, but obviously you could have had a better experience...

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    The fact they say Redskins SUCK, or go home or you suck or any of that shouldnt even lead one to blink. It happens everywhere. The instigation of trying to fight anyone with Burgundy on and the non stop racial comments is what is WAY over the line. But that is the clientele you are dealing with (again not all but a lot of them).

    They dont have the nickname "Philthy" for no reason.

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    It's Philly. You expected class?

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    I have respect for any Skins fan that will go to Philly wearing their colors proudly...I only had a brief idea of what went down in Philly with one of my old high school teachers telling me one time there was a huge brawl next to him and the police had to break it up with pepper spray, but I had no idea they would stoop as low as to egging a 9 year old girl. Don't feel bad about it Mark because we are all brothers here and we admire your courage to express your fanaticism.

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    Oh, that it just so sad and pathetic. I was looking for a thread earlier so I could congratulate you all for representing and to ask how it went. Sounds like they haven't changed much. It's the personal insults (not to mention outright vandalism) that really suck. There's no reason to yell at a little kid, or to point out someone's race or weight. What does that have to do with football?! I'm all for a little razzing here or there - maybe I've just parked my car and an opposing team's fans pull up next to me. I might say with a smile, "well, you all know you are going down today, right?" But it's all pretty good-natured.

    Mean people suck.

    I still hope you at least had an okay time being together with other fans from ExtemeSkins. Hope to see some of you in a couple of weeks at the tailgate.

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    Default Re: Redskins Fans @ Eagles at the Linc

    This is par for the course.But remember Philly has an image problem , always have always will.A hellhole stuck between DC and NYC.Thus they think they can imtimidate people with their boarish behaviour.

    These things go in cycles.Last year we almost ran the table in the division.But don't worry.At the end of the seaosn the Eagles will be at home, just like us.


    BTW,I hope your daughter is ok.She can learn from this.

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    It seems every year i read about this from Eagles games. I tell my friends that Philly hosts some of the worst fans in all the world and posts like this are proof of it.

    Sorry you had such a crappy experience but hey....they are philly fans. I don't expect anything but barbarity from those savages.

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