NYT: Venezuela Hands Narrow Defeat to Chavez Plan

[rincewind]

Another socialist leader gone wrong.



At least the Venezuelan people seem to be coming to their senses - if he had won this election he would have been the President for life.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/wo...=5070&emc=eta1

[Bang]

I would say at least Chavez has not done the typical strongman move and falsified the election, or thrown out the results.

...yet.

~Bang

[Zguy28]

Another socialist leader gone wrong.



At least the Venezuelan people seem to be coming to their senses - if he had won this election he would have been the President for life.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/wo...=5070&emc=eta1

Socialism can't work for the long-term as long as greed exists.

Did you notice the referendum would've changed the standard workday in Venezuela from 8 to 6 hours? An incentive to vote yes perhaps?

[rincewind]

Socialism can't work for the long-term as long as greed exists.

Did you notice the referendum would've changed the standard workday in Venezuela from 8 to 6 hours? An incentive to vote yes perhaps?

Better social security also (supposedly). But he is falling into the same trap all socialist/communist fall into - they get into power and then can't relinquish it. Someone once said something about absolute power corrupting absolutely, they weren't wrong.

[Prosperity]

good (enough) job Venezuala!

hopefully Chavez will accept defeat and step down when his term is up

[Koolblue13]

I hope Chavez stays in power, as long as he is the only one stopping the NAU and the Amero, atleast according to Fox. I wonder if he is more concerned about keeping the power from his people or his people from us.

[Zguy28]

Better social security also (supposedly). But he is falling into the same trap all socialist/communist fall into - they get into power and then can't relinquish it. Someone once said something about absolute power corrupting absolutely, they weren't wrong.

I prefer "meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

[rincewind]

I hope Chavez stays in power, as long as he is the only one stopping the NAU and the Amero, atleast according to Fox. I wonder if he is more concerned about keeping the power from his people or his people from us.

That's all well and good - but eliminating term limits in any country is a scary proposition.

[Destino]

I'm sure we haven't seen the end of this plan. He still has many years to get it passed.

[panel]

Another socialist leader gone wrong.



At least the Venezuelan people seem to be coming to their senses - if he had won this election he would have been the President for life.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/wo...=5070&emc=eta1

I'm shocked the election wasn't fixed

[Koolblue13]

That's all well and good - but eliminating term limits in any country is a scary proposition.

True, but term limits seem to be just a small hurdle anymore. Not every country is a constitutional republic like we used to be, not even a democracy. I don't want to drink a beer with Chavez, but I do think he is trying to keep his country headed in the correct direction.

[rincewind]

I'm shocked the election wasn't fixed

Kind of makes you wonder if he threw the election on purpose. Makes him look more legit - plus he only lost by 2%, so he can lose the election without losing much face.

[ACW]

Nice work Venezuela!

[The_cavalierman]

I am glad the people decided not to give this guy that kind of power.

[Koolblue13]

I am glad the people decided not to give this guy that kind of power.

Yeah, as opposed to us, who have already given 2/3 of those "powers" to our president. We just havn't eliminated term limits, we just keep making people hand the torch to others within the CFR. Ahhh, illusions.