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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhouse View Post
    I don't know much about testing, hgh, or roids. But what's the problem with Pac's approach of 20 days before and right after the fight? Shouldn't that reveal if he's using or not?

    Maybe the guy is superstitious about his approach, many athletes are. I know it sounds lame but you never know. Maybe I'm naive but I would rather give him the benefit of the doubt until I see some type of evidence that he's cheating.
    Exactly. All this was was a smoke screen by Floyd to get out of the fight. He knew that Pac would not agree to his terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    Like I've said previously there is a reason Olympic testing is random and they don't tell the athlete's when the limits are. With the amounts of money at stake I'm sure chemicals can be dosed to clear testing times if the athletes knew then in advance.

    Also 14 days prefight is plenty of time to recover "strength" lost by a tiny blood sample. An hour would be enough.
    If there are ways to easily get around testing like you say, how come Floyd was so generous in giving Pac 14 days? There's nothing random about that. And what prevents Pac from juicing for 13 days before the fight? Maybe Floyd should stick to 1 requirement; random or no fight.

    Don't you think?

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    What I find funny is that Destino thinks Olympic testing is some unbeatable test. Olympic athletes have been cheating those tests as well for years. Let's say Pacquiao is roiding he wouldn't turn down this fight because of Olympic testing when he knows he could beat that too.
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    http://www.fightnews.com/?p=35265

    Andre Berto’s Statement: Since the 7.0 earthquake struck Haiti on Tuesday evening, I have been focusing on my family and the Haitian people who are facing an inconceivable battle for survival while still trying to continue to prepare for an opportunity I have dreamt of since childhood. I lost several family members to the earthquake and after two days without word, was relieved to learn that my sister, Naomi and her daughter, Jessica survived, but were left homeless. I have seen the pain in my parents’ eyes as they attempt to understand what has happened to our homeland and recognize a place they once called home.
    As a result of this disaster, I am mentally and physically exhausted and therefore I have no choice but to withdraw from my bout on January 30.
    Throughout the past six days, I have received an incredible outpouring of support, and I sincerely appreciate everyone’s prayers for the people of Haiti. I hope that everyone will continue to keep the Haitian people in their thoughts and prayers as we work to rebuild this proud nation. The rebuilding of Haiti is not something that will happen overnight, but I am fully dedicated to helping the Haitian people recover from this catastrophic event.
    sucks for fight fans, but completely understandable given the situation

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4837075

    this espn article is saying he's lost at least 8 members of his family
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    I don't blame him at all.

    With that being said, we'll see if Mayweather actually sign to fight Mosley. I'm sure he's gonna request Mosley to take Olympic style testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue collar View Post
    I don't blame him at all.
    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24773

    Richard Schaeffer (who handle's mayweather promotion with Golden Boy) is already trying to put together a Floyd/Shane match
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    Mayweather-Mosley is in the works, orginally for May 1st but could move to March since Berto-Mosley got scrapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue collar View Post
    With that being said, we'll see if Mayweather actually sign to fight Mosley. I'm sure he's gonna request Mosley to take Olympic style testing.
    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24784

    unlike Pac, Mosley doesn't seem to mind the additional testing
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24784

    unlike Pac, Mosley doesn't seem to mind the additional testing
    both fighters being promoted by Golden Boy may play a role in easier negotiating. My question is, what will the split be? In my eyes, this should be a 50-50, but I have a feeling Floyd is going to be looking for a 60-40

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24784

    unlike Pac, Mosley doesn't seem to mind the additional testing
    The difference is that Mosley has been linked to PED. There's absolutely no suspicians of Pac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Bait View Post
    both fighters being promoted by Golden Boy may play a role in easier negotiating. My question is, what will the split be? In my eyes, this should be a 50-50, but I have a feeling Floyd is going to be looking for a 60-40
    i think 60/40 floyd should and will be the cut. floyd has a history of producing better buyrates than shane

    if going by talent, it would be 50/50 but that never decides the split (remember that floyd took 30% against DLH)
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    pretty good doubleheader tonight on HBO:

    Juan Manuel Lopez vs. Steven Luevano
    Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Rogers Mtagwa


    provided Lopez & Gamboa are both victorious, they will fight each other in may or june. they are both in with pretty good opponents. Luevano doesn't do anything great, but he does everything well. he's very solid, just not flashy. Lopez barely survived his last match with Rogers Mtagwa, in what was a serious "fight of the year" candidate.

    Gamboa is basically fighting Mtagwa because Mtagwa gave Lopez hell in his last match. Gamboa wants to show he can defeat Mtagwa in a more impressive fashion. Mtagwa is no easy win though, he's rugged, tough, and is definitely not just "another opponent". Gamboa is one most exciting fighters in boxing today, but he is very reckless with his defense. he has great head movement, which causes him to drop his hands alot, and is why he has been chin checked in previous fights.

    i think Lopez & Gamboa will both be victorious tonight. these are two of the boxings most promising young stars. if you can watch tonight, you should
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    pretty good doubleheader tonight on HBO:

    Juan Manuel Lopez vs. Steven Luevano
    Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Rogers Mtagwa


    provided Lopez & Gamboa are both victorious, they will fight each other in may or june. they are both in with pretty good opponents. Luevano doesn't do anything great, but he does everything well. he's very solid, just not flashy. Lopez barely survived his last match with Rogers Mtagwa, in what was a serious "fight of the year" candidate.

    Gamboa is basically fighting Mtagwa because Mtagwa gave Lopez hell in his last match. Gamboa wants to show he can defeat Mtagwa in a more impressive fashion. Mtagwa is no easy win though, he's rugged, tough, and is definitely not just "another opponent". Gamboa is one most exciting fighters in boxing today, but he is very reckless with his defense. he has great head movement, which causes him to drop his hands alot, and is why he has been chin checked in previous fights.

    i think Lopez & Gamboa will both be victorious tonight. these are two of the boxings most promising young stars. if you can watch tonight, you should
    Gamboa was very impressive, he crushed a much smaller Mtagwa....wasn't even a test. Lopez fight was boring, I'm not very impressed with Lopez, although he did do what he needed to in that fight to win.

    I'm excited to see Gamboa vs. Lopez...I expect Gamboa to win.

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    Gamboa might be my favorite fighter in boxing right now. dude is scary good athletically. reminds me alot of a smaller Roy Jones Jr. i'm impressed with him because he's shored up some of his defensive problems i noticed in other fights. he's much more responsible with his hands in his last few fights. his speed & killer instinct are unmatched at that weight class.

    i thought Lopez looked good against a tougher opponent last night. Luevano is one of those kinds of boxers that its hard to look good against him, but Lopez came in and took him out in 7 rounds.

    about a year ago i would've picked Lopez over Gamboa, mainly because Gamboa defense was technically flawed at that time. now with his improvements defensively, i see Gamboa winning. i'm not sure how Juanma will be able to get over the speed advantage Gamboa will have
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    The thing about Gamboa that impresses me the most is his hard, fast, ACCURATE punches. He landed 60% of his power punches thrown.

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