All Things Boxing

[ArmchairRedskin]

I think you quoted the wrong guy, Unforgiven.

Floyd can keep it close for a while, but I just think Manny beats his way through his defense after enough rounds. Floyd will give way to Manny's speed and power as the match wears on. Floyd is a good counter puncher, but Manny can take a hit, and Floyd doesn't exactly bring the hammer. I wouldn't be totally shocked at Manny scoring a knockout, although it'll probably come down to points.

[Unforgiven]

Lawrence Cole is one of the worst referees I've seen. I remember back a couple of years ago, Juan Manuel Marquez fought Jimrex Jaca. Marquez was cut badly in the 8th, While asking him did he want to continue, Cole told Marquez he was ahead on the cards.



Floyd's KO of Hatton wasn't a "true KO"?

you bring up alot of good points though. although you didn't touch on Floyd ability to accurately counter-punch from his defense. Manny's last few fights have been against offensive fighters who don't know how to fight going backwards, so when Pacquiao got aggressive with them, it essentially killed any of their plans.

Mayweather is probably the best counter-puncher of his era, a fact supported by the fact that opponents of Floyd tend to throw less punches than their normal fight averages

each fighter has distinct advantages in the fight that would allow them avenues to victory. each fighter is as dominant as they come, though they use completely different methods.

If I were to bet, I'd still put money on Floyd, although it would be a rather small amount

I think technically it was a TKO victory over Hatton, though I get your point...

Yeah I mean, it will be close and I don't think it's out of line for people to be split on who they give the edge to. I just don't think Mayweather has ever fought someone with the speed/power/footwork combination of Manny. I just think he'll get hit a lot more than he's used to in that fight and I don't know how he'll react to that.

[Unforgiven]

I think you quoted the wrong guy, Unforgiven.

Oppps, yeah I did, thanks for pointing that out...fixed.

[Patrick86L]

Antonio Margarito, the Mexican super welterweight beaten badly by Manny Pacquiao on Saturday night, suffered a fractured orbital bone to his face and was expected to stay in the hospital for observation through at least Sunday night, an executive with Margarito's promotions company said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/new...=ESPNHeadlines

[ACW]

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=116749

[Samuels]

I love Manny but his style plays right into Mayweathers game.. I honestly think Mannys only shot would be to ko Floyd if not it will be a lopsided fight with Mayweather winning a decision.. I hate Mayweather with a passion but i don't think the casual boxing fan realizes how good his defense and hand speed really are he made Mosley look like a straight bum other then the big punch rd1..

[NoCalMike]

For those saying Floyd will be remembered for ducking Manny. I don't think asking someone to submit a blood sample for a drug test according to Olympic doping standards qualifies as ducking somebody. Manny said no to the drug test every single time it was asked, except this latest time, but everyone knew the fight wasn't going to happen in 2010 because Floyd is in some non-boxing related legal trouble right now, so of course Manny agrees to do the drug test finally when he knows it isn't going to happen anyway.

Not like Roach doesn't have a history of fighters in his camp caught doping.

http://ringtalk.com/us-anti-doping-h...inger-at-manny

[AsburySkinsFan]

If Mayweather were as confident in his defense as some in this thread are then he wouldn't be ducking Pacman.

[ArmchairRedskin]

Manny's hesitation about the drug testing probably has a lot to do with the blood testing incident when he fought Morales. They took blood from Manny two days before that fight and Manny went on to lose. Afterwards he said that after they took the blood he felt weak and he never got right before that fight. Floyd wanted to be able to take blood the night before the fight. Plus, what Floyd wanted exceeded the commision's requirements and also the initial demands also exceeded what Floyd asked of any other fighter.

I don't see why the test they do after the fight isn't good enough. Any illegal substance would be found then, wouldn't it?

Looks like a scared Floyd from where I'm sitting.

[NoCalMike]

Floyd wants olympic standards applied to the testing because the testing that boxing does is a joke. The reason it requires more blood is because a lot more chemicals are tested for when olympic standards are applied. However it is not nearly enough to effect someone.

Manny wasn't more weak. he is on record saying it is a superstition of his that it makes him weaker. It is a really weak excuse.

[StillUnknown]

Floyd wants olympic standards applied to the testing because the testing that boxing does is a joke. The reason it requires more blood is because a lot more chemicals are tested for when olympic standards are applied. However it is not nearly enough to effect someone.

Manny wasn't more weak. he is on record saying it is a superstition of his that it makes him weaker. It is a really weak excuse.

floyd wanting olympic level testing had very little to do with him wanting cleaning up the sport, it was a negotiating ploy and nothing more.

[NoCalMike]

floyd wanting olympic level testing had very little to do with him wanting cleaning up the sport, it was a negotiating ploy and nothing more.

He demands it of other opponents as well. And I'm sorry, if you are fighting someone who is moving up a different weight division ever 3-5 months to take another fight, I would have some reservations too.

The bottomline is, Pac-Man turned down a 30mill(at least)guarantee on three occassions, over getting blood drawn? WTF

[Unforgiven]

Floyd was simply trying to dictate the notion that he was the one in charge of that fight and it was the Floyd Mayweather show, it was all part of a negotiation tactic to try and put Manny in his place and accept a smaller cut. It's not like Floyd was doing this for years and years, of course he brought it up with Mosley after he tried that stunt with Manny to make it seem like he was on some noble mission to 'clean up the sport.' You're kidding yourself if you think Mayweather really gives a damn about this apart from what he was trying to accomplish with bullying Pacquiao with it.

I'm not saying the current boxing testing is fine or anything, that's not the point, but just don't get suckered in to the Mayweather PR camp and think he's doing what he's doing because it's the right thing to do.

[jnhay]

Apparently Pacquiao's camp was in an uproar when they noticed a container of Hydroxycut in Margarito's dressing room. Isn't it a little hypocritical of them to dismiss Floyd's request, especially when a former employee of Pacquaio has accused him of using steroids?

http://ringtalk.com/us-anti-doping-head-points-finger-at-manny[/url]

The guy quoted in that article clearly has an agenda. Of course he'd call Manny out for not wanting his organization's services. He's not very professional either, sounding like he's part of the fight promotion game himself.

[Patrick Evidente]

He demands it of other opponents as well. And I'm sorry, if you are fighting someone who is moving up a different weight division ever 3-5 months to take another fight, I would have some reservations too.

The bottomline is, Pac-Man turned down a 30mill(at least)guarantee on three occassions, over getting blood drawn? WTF

didn't Pacquiao agree to Mayweather's demands eventually?