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[ClemsSC7Skinfan]

On another note.

Kirkland still has plenty of potential as a fighter but I hope he has his head clear enough to know that he needs to become a better "boxer" and not just a brawler. He obviously lacks the type of chin that can take flush shots, I don't think you can ever change that fact after being knocked the f out by a light hitting Japanese fighter. What you can change is your style, the best at protecting a suspect chin is Manny Steward (Lennox Lewis & Vlad Klitchko). So with that being said it is time to drag your sorry ass into the Kronk Gym and see if Manny wants to waste his time on you or not, otherwise seek the same help somewhere but gotta change styles. Slow down be a little defensive and then time the offensive explosions. Otherwise I'm afraid he'll just disappear probably without us ever hearing anything else about him.

---------- Post added April-17th-2011 at 01:07 AM ----------

What a night. A great time to be a boxing fan.

You're very right!!! It's about time Boxing showed it's merit.

I can't get into the MMA stuff and don't classify it as the same type of "sport" even as boxing. Too much man on man wrestling and tapouts for me to call that a fight.

It was refreshing to see a great entertaining fight tonight.

[ACW]

Local dude Bayan Jargal on Friday Night Fights tonight

[DM72]

Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez likely for October

http://www.proboxing-fans.com/pacqui...ctober_042611/

[ClemsSC7Skinfan]

Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez likely for October

www.proboxing-fans.com/pacquiao-vs-marquez-iii-likely-for-october_042611/

Yeah I heard that the other day. Not a big fan of it. I know JMM gave some good fights with Pac but it's really a triology not worth making, it's already 2-0 pac....

Outside of that, why not give someone that hasn't had the chance an oppurtuntity to beat the best P4P fighter....give Ortiz a chance, give Berto a shot, I just want to see someone new get in there. Whether or not they lose or stand a lot of a chance lets spice it up a bit and stop giving people like Mosely a 400th shot. I like Mosely and all but I just don't think he'll win and am tired of watching him.

[DM72]

Yeah I heard that the other day. Not a big fan of it. I know JMM gave some good fights with Pac but it's really a triology not worth making, it's already 2-0 pac....

Outside of that, why not give someone that hasn't had the chance an oppurtuntity to beat the best P4P fighter....give Ortiz a chance, give Berto a shot, I just want to see someone new get in there. Whether or not they lose or stand a lot of a chance lets spice it up a bit and stop giving people like Mosely a 400th shot. I like Mosely and all but I just don't think he'll win and am tired of watching him.

Can't argue there. I honestly believe Pac wants to beat the guys Floyd has beaten, but beat them worse. But atleast he's fighting.

[StillUnknown]

Yeah I heard that the other day. Not a big fan of it. I know JMM gave some good fights with Pac but it's really a triology not worth making, it's already 2-0 pac....

Outside of that, why not give someone that hasn't had the chance an oppurtuntity to beat the best P4P fighter....give Ortiz a chance, give Berto a shot, I just want to see someone new get in there. Whether or not they lose or stand a lot of a chance lets spice it up a bit and stop giving people like Mosely a 400th shot. I like Mosely and all but I just don't think he'll win and am tired of watching him.

Pac is 1-0-1 against JMM

[ACW]

http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/4/16...7-in-las-vegas
How the hell did Margarito get his license back?

[StillUnknown]

http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/4/16...7-in-las-vegas
How the hell did Margarito get his license back?

money>>>>>>>>>>>>>ethics & standards

[Chachie]

http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/4/16...7-in-las-vegas

Cotto should not give Margarito a chance to beat him again and silence his critics for cheating. It's a bad style matchup for Miguel at this point in his career, plain and simple. I'm sure Cotto wants revenge but he might just be doing Antonio a huge favor here.

[ClemsSC7Skinfan]

Pac is 1-0-1 against JMM

This is true, overall Manny won the first fight with it being a 12 Rounder he had a draw purely due to the fact that one judge gave the first round a 10-7 score instead of 10-6 which it was suppose to be since he floored JMM 3 times. I agree JMM would of and could of most likely won the fight had there been 3 more rounds to go like an old school 15 round fight because of how hard he fought to come back. However, it was 12 rounds and one judge scored the fight incorrectly resulting in 113 to 113 draw. To me it smelled of corruption going on with gambling, especially to have the fight so far off from one judge having Manny win by a few rounds, the other judge having JMM winning by a few rounds (which would of been impossible to win by without impartiality since he was knocked down so many times in the 1st). Then the final judge to magically have it even, hmmmmmm head scratcher but yes the actual score is 1-0-1. To me the 2nd fight pretty much sealed the deal on whether it was really 2-0 because Manny did win that won without much dispute.

[ACW]

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2011/...-scene-of.html
Man, Paul vs. Manny would be entertaining...

[DM72]

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2011/...-scene-of.html
Man, Paul vs. Manny would be entertaining...

I'm so sick of people talking about Paul Williams. I thought he was grossly overrated even before he got knocked out cold against Martinez.

But speaking of Pacquiao, did anyone see Teddy Atlas on ESPN's First Take? Two of the topics were about Pac. The first was about his fight with Mosley this Saturday, but then they started talking about where does Pac rank among the all time greats. Now I know Atlas has forgotten more boxing than I'll ever know, but imo, it's ridiculous to not have Pac among the top 25 of all time. I think he had him borderline in his top 30. He was bringing up fighters who fought over 100 times. Different era, different time. Pac is probably one of the few fighting now that could probably fight back then.

Then they started talking Pac/Mayweather. Atlas once again stated that he believes Mayweather would beat Pac. To bad Mayweather doesn't share Atlas' confidence because if he did, he'd fight him.

[StillUnknown]

Pac's not in my top 25 all-time either, although I haven't looked through my list in a few years

all-time lists in boxing are incredibly difficult to debate anyway simply because of the different eras and changes the game has seen over time. I love reading though lists though because it gives me insight into boxers I may have not been familiar with.

I look at all-time lists in boxing much like I view opinions on the greatest movie of all-time. alot of a person's ranking will come down to simple preference in styles (i.e. offense vs. defense)

[DM72]

I would love to see they 25 you have in front of him. I have no idea why Pac gets critisized for not fighting the best. He's fought Marquez, De La Hoya (even though he was not in his prime, many thought he'd be too much for the smaller Pac), Hatton, Clotty, Cotto and Margarito.

[tone_dubbz]

Pac's not in my top 25 all-time either, although I haven't looked through my list in a few years

I want to hear where Mayweather ranks on your "all-time" list.