All Things Boxing

[DM72]

Is Berto suspended? If not, why not him?

[StillUnknown]

no chance that happens. Golden Boy want to make money off him, Martinez is too good for Alvarez and JCC is a super middleweight pretending to be a middleweight. JCC jr is also Top Rank and an untrustworthy guy.

Lopez was impressive as hell, was wild because I dont recall him being that good against Vargas who I feel is overrated

GoldenBoy may have to just fall on their sword and not take take that Sept 15th date.

Thats what I meant, it clears the way for JCCjr/Martinez to be the only scheduled ppv card that night. Nobody left for Canelo with a name value that would support it being on ppv. Although Martinez is a DiBella fighter, I don't think he's contractually tied to Top Rank. Golden Boy could try to make Martinez/Canelo at 154

Is Berto suspended? If not, why not him?

He'll still be on suspension in September I believe. Even if he wasn't, thats a tough fight to sell. Despite HBO's best attempts, Berto is not anything close to a star, and he's never fought at 154. Hell, he's a small 147.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

Thats what I meant, it clears the way for JCCjr/Martinez to be the only scheduled ppv card that night. Nobody left for Canelo with a name value that would support it being on ppv.

yeah thats true

altho they could push it anyway considering that Canelo is the draw and Mexicans are going to buy the fight. Maybe throw more money at Kirkland? That September 15th date is cursed.

[DM72]

I can see Alverez fighting Erislandy Lara then. A good boxer (ask Paul Williams) with no punching power. Hard sell for a PPV though.

[StillUnknown]

I can see Alverez fighting Erislandy Lara then. A good boxer (ask Paul Williams) with no punching power. Hard sell for a PPV though.

I'd be shocked and pleasantly surprised if Golden Boy let Lara get a crack at him. Risk is too high, if Canelo is to lose, they want it to be against somebody they can sell later.

If they're hellbent on keeping the date, they should just give Kirkland the extra dollars he wanted. Otherwise, they're better off canceling the date.

---------- Post added June-24th-2012 at 12:00 AM ----------

Just dawned on me that Cotto is available for Canelo. That would be a great fight and would put up very good PPV numbers. Mexico vs. Puerto Rico is easily sold in boxing.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

---------- Post added June-24th-2012 at 12:45 AM ----------

Just dawned on me that Cotto is available for Canelo. That would be a great fight and would put up very good PPV numbers. Mexico vs. Puerto Rico is easily sold in boxing.

too big of a risk for Goldenboy

[SiCkSoULjA]

Emmanuel Stewart beleaves Julio and PAC could be juicing?

http://www.boxingscene.com/emanuel-s...avez-jr--54585

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

Emmanuel Stewart beleaves Julio and PAC could be juicing?

http://www.boxingscene.com/emanuel-s...avez-jr--54585

water is wet.

We all know Manny is afraid of tests, and Chavez just does whatever he wants with no repercussions when it comes to drug tests.

[StillUnknown]

I would bet my existence on the fact that Chavez Jr. is on PED's

[StillUnknown]

According to Dan Rafael, Canelo is now fighting Josesito Lopez on CBS.


I don't like the matchup. Size difference will be enormous. Lopez is a natural 140lb'er, he couldn't even get to 147 when he fought and stopped Ortiz, now he's supposed to fight at 154? It also bypasses a few fighters at 154 who have earned their shot. Hope he makes a good payday, but he's backing himself into a corner. Should be a fun fight as long as it lasts though.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

According to Dan Rafael, Canelo is now fighting Josesito Lopez on CBS.


I don't like the matchup. Size difference will be enormous. Lopez is a natural 140lb'er, he couldn't even get to 147 when he fought and stopped Ortiz, now he's supposed to fight at 154? It also bypasses a few fighters at 154 who have earned their shot. Hope he makes a good payday, but he's backing himself into a corner. Should be a fun fight as long as it lasts though.

its a horrible fight... the protection of Canelo continues.

I will be watching Martinez/Chavez that night.

[ClemsSC7Skinfan]

Kahn loses to Danny Garcia in an exciting fight tonight on HBO

This is why boxing is still better than MMA!

Kahn dominated the fight in rounds 1 through 3 and was still dominating in 4 until he was blasted by a "lucky" counter left hook. From that point forward I was shocked, amazed, and became a fan of Amir Kahn's heart. The fight was stopped in the 4th after I believe it was the 4th knock down. Very exciting to watch, I wish he woulda made it through but the stoppage was a good one because Kahn was slow to respond to questions, requested movements, etc. several times prior

[mboyd784]

Whew! Just caught the Khan-Garcia replay on HBO. Four rounds of terror! Great fight.

[Kosher Ham]

Yeah, that was a fun fight to watch. I recorded it on the replay.

[StillUnknown]

Khan has an extremely low fight IQ. No reason for him to get hit so much when he has a good jab, reach, and arguably the fastest hands in boxing. If you have a weak chin, you can't go toe to toe with people.