All Things Boxing

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

Just wondering so I don't have to waste my time debating with a couch boxer who's only knowledge of the sport comes from watching it on TV.

I have been in gyms and know boxers. I havent boxed myself.

No one has put a gun to your head and told you to stay here and talk. If you dont want to, you can leave.

Did Floyd hit a new low when he accused Pacquiao? Dude accomplished something he could never do when he was younger and that is put Pacquiao down not once, but twice? What would any of you say if Pacquiao's strength coach had balco ties? You would say Floyd was justified? If anyone is suspicious of Barry Bonds, how can you not be suspicious of JMM? Bigger shoulders, bigger arms, bigger traps and more power than he ever had before. At the age of 39.

The irony of this post.... DM72 has accused Marquez of using PEDs.

Also, so did Roach a few weeks ago. You need to get over this loss. You have gone batty.

---------- Post added December-10th-2012 at 02:07 PM ----------

That's why I know most of the Floyd supporters on here that are having a field day with clowning Pac never set foot in a ring and have absolutely no experience in the sport.

Manny got KTFO.

I have tremendous amount of respect for Manny and what he has done. I am a big fan of his too. The pictures are more to make fun of his fans, not Manny. I have never said a bad word about Manny's heart or status in the sport. He is a complete legend.

What that has to do with this conversation, I have no idea.

[DM72]

The irony of this post.... DM72 has accused Marquez of using PEDs.

Also, so did Roach a few weeks ago. You need to get over this loss. You have gone batty.

Yes, I do believe JMM was taking something. But why are you Floyd fans so happy Pacquiao lost? Didn't you want to see Pacquiao and Floyd in the ring?

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

Yes, I do believe JMM was taking something. But why are you Floyd fans so happy Pacquiao lost? Didn't you want to see Pacquiao and Floyd in the ring?

I am not happy that Pacquaio lost. I am happy by how bad Pacquiao fans are taking it.

If Pacquiao fans were rational and reasonable, then nothing would be funny.

[DM72]

I am not happy that Pacquaio lost. I am happy by how bad Pacquiao fans are taking it.

If Pacquiao fans were rational and reasonable, then nothing would be funny.

No one's taking it bad. He lost and he will be back in April.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

This is what Im talking about with the hypocrisy

Arum acknowledged problems with the landscape; with outdated, flawed testing procedures, especially for smaller fights; with no national commission to set policy; and with varied policies among the state commissions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/sp...?smid=fb-share

if thats the case, why not do a USADA testing like Floyd requested?

[SiCkSoULjA]

No one's taking it bad. He lost and he will be back in April.

DM and friends should be on suicide watch. PAC turned the other cheek and got his chin clocked by running away for drug testing. PAC should have took the 40 million he will be lucky too get half that.

Marquez got off the pissy drinks and moved on too bigger and better things power pellets.

[DM72]

DM and friends should be on suicide watch. PAC turned the other cheek and got his chin clocked by running away for drug testing. PAC should have took the 40 million he will be lucky too get half that.

Marquez got off the pissy drinks and moved on too bigger and better things power pellets.

$40 million was a lowball offer. If you think Pacquiao was ever gonna agree to a flat rate without any PPV revenue, you're crazy.

[ChampSkinsFan]

Yes, I do believe JMM was taking something. But why are you Floyd fans so happy Pacquiao lost? Didn't you want to see Pacquiao and Floyd in the ring?

I think he was on something to but I went back and looked at some pictures of both Pacquiao and JMM they both have gained alot of muscle in the last couple of years. So I guess Pacquiao complaining about PEDS would be like the pot calling the kettle black. A big percentage of the guys in professional sports are cheaters anyway.

[DM72]

I think he was on something to but I went back and looked at some pictures of both Pacquiao and JMM they both have gained alot of muscle in the last couple of years. So I guess Pacquiao complaining about PEDS would be like the pot calling the kettle black. A big percentage of the guys in professional sports are cheaters anyway.

Yeah, but Pacquiao put his on gradually as he moved up, the same can be said about Mayweather and other fighters that have moved up. JMM on the other hand looks like a new man at the age of 39. Go back and look at him when he fought Floyd.

And for the record, Pacquiao isn't complaining that he believes JMM is on PED's.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

I think he was on something to but I went back and looked at some pictures of both Pacquiao and JMM they both have gained alot of muscle in the last couple of years. So I guess Pacquiao complaining about PEDS would be like the pot calling the kettle black. A big percentage of the guys in professional sports are cheaters anyway.

dawg, do not engage DM72 on this. Seriously

---------- Post added December-10th-2012 at 05:42 PM ----------

DM and friends should be on suicide watch. PAC turned the other cheek and got his chin clocked by running away for drug testing. PAC should have took the 40 million he will be lucky too get half that.

Marquez got off the pissy drinks and moved on too bigger and better things power pellets.

and im happy for him

[NoCalMike]

Pac just got hit with a perfect counter-punch, timed perfect and landed on a fighter charging in that didn't see it coming. It happens, add to the fact that when he dropped, he hit the canvas face first, with no support of the fall by his hands. That added to the "OMFG" effect.

JMM staggered Pac in their third fight as well, but didn't have enough in the tank to finish the job.

If you look at the 4th fight as a whole, both fighters were fighting a lot more careless than in the previous fights. You could tell they were done with each other, each other's trainers/managers/corners/promoters etc etc.....the first three fights were all so close, so indecisive, that it was pretty evident both guys were going to go balls to the wall to make sure this fight ended with no possible way to argue the outcome.

They both predicted a KO of the other for the first time, as well.

Sometime's people get hit with the perfect punch, that's it, it happens....nothing else to see. Get over it.

I think all the Floyd fans are pointing out is that Pac has trouble with counter-punchers, and Floyd is the best. He is better than JMM. For the sake of the matchup argument, Floyd matches up with Manny even better than JMM.

[Chachie]

I think all the Floyd fans are pointing out is that Pac has trouble with counter-punchers, and Floyd is the best. He is better than JMM. For the sake of the matchup argument, Floyd matches up with Manny even better than JMM.

So true and now that he knows it for sure he'll sign on the dotted line.

[StillUnknown]

I only see it happening if Bob Arum departs from the earth in the next couple of years.

[DM72]

It won't happen. Arum and Floyd will make sure of that. Pacquiao will probably fight Marquez a 5th time and Floyd most likely fight Guerrero rather than face Alverez.

---------- Post added December-10th-2012 at 11:09 PM ----------

So true and now that he knows it for sure he'll sign on the dotted line.

But they're not the same kind of counter puncher. What's so hard to understand about that? Marquez is way more offensive than Mayweather. Also, if slow Cotto can put his hands on him, why couldn't the much faster Pacquiao?

[StillUnknown]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing...5170--box.html

Seconds after Manny Pacquiao was knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden, two key members of his team allegedly assaulted Getty Images photographer Al Bello because they were angry that Bello was shooting pictures of the fallen fighter.

Bello said Pacquiao adviser Michael Koncz and assistant trainer Buboy Fernandez were punching and kicking at Bello as he was trying to photograph Pacquiao, who was face first down on the mat.

Bello jumped off the apron in an effort to avoid confrontation with the men.

"Had I not gotten off the ring, I have no doubt the two of them would have beaten the [expletive] out of me and I might have been seriously hurt," Bello told Yahoo! Sports.

Even after Bello jumped off the apron, an enraged Fernandez went through the ropes after him in an effort to get at him. Fernandez had been on the ground crying when he became aware that Bello was shooting photos of the knocked out Pacquiao.

Koncz did not return a phone call seeking comment, though he sent a text message to Yahoo! Sports regarding the incident. Koncz, who essentially serves as Pacquiao's manager, texted back, "Not an assault just a miss understanding in the heat of the moment."

When a follow-up text was sent by Yahoo! Sports indicating that there was photographic evidence of both Koncz and Fernandez attacking Bello, Koncz quit responding.

Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission, said he would review the incident and would consider potential penalties against Koncz and Fernandez.

"What I find interesting is that neither of these gentlemen, nor anyone else on Team Pacquiao, had any problems when the photographers were doing their jobs and shooting pictures of Ricky Hatton after Manny knocked Hatton out," Kizer said.

Pac's people should be ashamed.