The Williams snub is NOT the problem, the problem is Jim Fassel

[SkinsHokieFan]

Alright folks, there are still many people not sold on GW as head coach, and there are many legit reasons for it

The 17-31 record in Buffalo

The poor relationship he had with management there

The percieved arrogance, lack of adjustments and probably the 2006 season

It never was a slam dunk he would not be a head coach

Therefore the coaching search was a GOOD thing, go out and find the best person to lead this team for years

HOWEVER that makes hiring Jim Fassel an even worse move

If the team were to go outside of the organization and not keep Coach Williams, who has the support of the locker room, would maintain continuity, and build upon Gibbs 2.0, why would the team go after a 58 year old who has done nothing of note since being fired in New York following the 2003 season

Fassel did put his chips on the table and lead the Giants to an improbable Super Bowl appearance in 2000

However he also lost his team in 2003. His teams were generally undisciplined and poor in the clutch

Blew a 24 point lead in a playoff game following the 2002 season. Got embarrased in the Superbowl to a Ravens team with basically no offense

And since the 2003 firing has been a consultant/offensive coordinator/whatever with the Ravens and was FIRED from that position

If it was Jim Caldwell, Jim Schwartz, Jim Harbaugh, someone young, someone who hasn't been a head coach before, this move would make sense.

Bringing in a 58 year old who has not been successful in years is the wrong move to make for this team. Finding a better alternative to GW is not, but Jim Fassel is not that alternative

[SkinsMaster88]

Completely agree.

[authentic]

For some reason. I think hiring Fassel would just be hiring another coach thats looking for a big pay day. I can see it now, he's going to coach for 2 seasons and then we will be in this same exact position in 2010. I can almost guarantee it.

[Boy2Der]

I totally agree if your going to not hire GW at least give us some hope not somebody who no one else even considered. I'd much rather have Meeks.

[adamyesme1111]

Read Jumbo's thread called "what do you do for a living."

You have no idea what is going on compared to them. Fassel might come and WIN, obviously they think he will if they are going to hire him, and they know alot more then we do.

Thats why we are FANS and we don't work for the team, because we don't KNOW anything compared to them. We will have to support whoever they bring in, complaining about it on a message board isn't really gonna change their decision on anything .

[Execution56]

I buy ur argument...

[laurent]

I think it can be summed up even shorter. The problem is Daniel Snyder.

[Forever21]

If the team were to go outside of the organization and not keep Coach Williams, who has the support of the locker room, would maintain continuity, and build upon Gibbs 2.0, why would the team go after a 58 year old who has done nothing of note since being fired in New York following the 2003 season

I think you make good points but I think what I quoted above is making an awfully big assumption.

We do not know that GW will bring continuity. Maybe it's safe to assume he brings continuity to the defence. That is very good obviously. Except that he refuses to upgrade the defensive line and keeps building the secondary which we know is how a good defense is built but not a great one.

The offense it sure appears is getting blown up one way or the other and I think continuity on the offensive side is more important for us right now. Jason is going to have to learn a new system...AGAIN.

Personally I'm not sold on anyone. But then again, other than Joe Gibbs 3.0 I am going to be aprehensive.

[applejaxs213]

im in the same boat as you. how long will this guy really be a coach for? it seems like the only thing synder wants is an old coach with no possible future growth. jim schwartz and others could grow to become great coaches if given the opportunity. fasssel was already given the chance and he proved he was ineffective as a coach.

[TrumanB]

Read Jumbo's thread called "what do you do for a living."

You have no idea what is going on compared to them. Fassel might come and WIN, obviously they think he will if they are going to hire him, and they know alot more then we do.

Thats why we are FANS and we don't work for the team, because we don't KNOW anything compared to them. We will have to support whoever they bring in, complaining about it on a message board isn't really gonna change their decision on anything .

No, what we have is a history of bad decisions by Snyder since buying this team. I don't have to be an owner or GM of a football team to know that. This move seems to be more of the same.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Read Jumbo's thread called "what do you do for a living."

You have no idea what is going on compared to them. Fassel might come and WIN, obviously they think he will if they are going to hire him, and they know alot more then we do.

Thats why we are FANS and we don't work for the team, because we don't KNOW anything compared to them. We will have to support whoever they bring in, complaining about it on a message board isn't really gonna change their decision on anything .

I am not a pilot, nor do I know how to fly a plane

But I know when the damn plane is crashing

[TankRizzo]

new sig time

[Rufus T Firefly]

When I'm watching the Super Bowl in a week and a half, I don't think the line "retread coaches are bad ideas" will be going thru my mind a lot. Nor was it in last year's.

I would have rather hired Schwartz or Ryan and kept Saunders, but I'm not at all sure Fassel won't be a good coach.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

It's becoming increasingly clear to me that whatever Jerry Jones does, Danny is sure to copy.

Jones hires a legend in Parcells; Danny hires a legend in Gibbs.

Jones hires a retread coach who is happy to be a placeholder and pairs him with a hot young coordinator. Danny does it with Fassel and Ryan.

I suspect - and don't hold me to this - that Danny thinks that he can easily fire Fassel next year and hire Cowher and - barring that - promote Ryan in one or two years.

[Chachie]

Fassel will be gone too in one year exactly. We are doomed as fans to retardation in the front office. Snyder has learned NOTHING from Joe Gibbs.