ExtremeSkins FF Dynasty League

[Hitman21ST]

wow...ok so I received a pm from Skins79 saying he's out because Hitman's comments were over the line. lol, guess we're too ruthless here for some.

jeez...let me dial up Daaskins again since he did express interest.

And as it pertains to me..hahaha nice try Hitman, but i don't scare so easily. The faggots i was referring to were clearly the 11 of you knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, invalids. Now respect your champion and find your way out of my presence....go run someone else outta the league. lol

Holy crap.



OK then, I guess we're back to Daaskins?

Can I get an extra pick or something for that?

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If this we the case we would just use our PS squad as a hold for 1st and 2nd year players. But we would still be able to move guys on and off of our PS to Active as much as we would like right?

This is correct.

I say keep our current PS rules on who is elligible moving players etc.... but just eliminate claiming.....

agree 100%. We'd keep the same eligibility...1st and 2nd year players only, but eliminate the claims and draft pick compensation and all that nonsense. You think i should just go ahead and make a poll on MFL? It's so much quicker and easier that way.

[the burgundy and gold]

agree 100%. We'd keep the same eligibility...1st and 2nd year players only, but eliminate the claims and draft pick compensation and all that nonsense. You think i should just go ahead and make a poll on MFL? It's so much quicker and easier that way.

I agree just eliminate claims.

I had one wild claim in like 2008 for Ted Ginn but I think I ended up giving Ginn back to who ever it was rather than losing the draft pick. The "Tag" section of our thread has a few referencing that claim I think haha.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

This is correct.

Good enough for me.

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Glad to hear from you guys. I made an official poll on MFL. Take your votes there.

And you'll only see one poll at a time, so make sure to click More Polls to see both of the ones that are open for voting.

---------- Post added February-6th-2013 at 03:58 PM ----------

Yeah you claimed Ginn from me actually. I let you borrow him, and took him back at the end of the year instead of the 3rd round pick he would have netted me.

So, sort of a successful claim in the sense that I let you pluck him, but i actually took him back instead of taking the draft pick compensation. I liked Ginn a lot more than the 3rd rounder that would have come back to me. So i guess successful for you, not really for me, but it didn't hurt me either. I was happy to let you borrow Ginn and see if he would actually do something that would get me a decent pick. haha, he didn't.

---------- Post added February-6th-2013 at 04:06 PM ----------

Oh and hey Daaskins, tried hitting you back...your inbox is full, clear some pm's out. I need you to make that name something like the Detroit Discount Double Checkers, or the Green Bay Discount Double Checkers. The Chi-Town Discount Double Checkers....anything so long as it's a real city/state/town/etc. City nicknames like Charm City or Keystone State are acceptable as well. It's just gotta meet the city/mascot formula bro. Thanks!

[RiggosMohawk]

I agree with eliminating the claim system.

So before we trek off to MFL for chatting and polls and try to leave this thread behind - MFL is blocked at work for me, and I don't think I'm the only one with that issue. I know I'm a "read more post less" type even in our area, but moving our normal banter over there is gonna make that even worse. Like I said, I don't think I'm the only one with this problem (insert appropriate Pho crack here) so Im hoping we can keep as much a presence here as possible.

And for Skins79... I say man up. If you had a problem with Hitman you and him work it out. You don't take your pacifier and go home crying.

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Oh there's no plans to move away from here as a primary source of chat, and **** talking Riggo. No worries there.

We just might need to take some of our more "colorful" comments to MFL. and as far as polls, it simply makes it easier to lay out a vote and get responses that way than tracking them throughout post after post on a message board. Kinda makes my job easier, ya dig bro?

[RiggosMohawk]

Word. I'll try to stay on top of the polls then, like I've been on top of Skins79's sister.

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Hahaha! Riggo just lit that ass up!!

[ChrisCooleyFunkFactory]

Yeah of all the guys in here to make someone quit, I would've bet the house on Pho

I always thought it is was funny coming from Pho, because it was coming from Pho.

Are we talking about rule changes?

If anything, I ask that we please take our time with this decision. My experience makes me think that we wont get another chance for awhile, so lets make it right. I have a proposal with reasoning behind it.

First, the reasoning. I believe our league should reflect the rules that will best allow for dynasty enjoyment. I dont find the need to conform to NFL rules. Dynasty leagues that have big teams, despite being big, experience a large dropoff in value of having a player on their team and not. Kind of a no brainer, but, the existance of transition roster spot or taxi squad allows for a softening of the value dropoff. A great example of use is for players that are injured, underperforming or underdeveloped. Key to the term transition means there must be mechanisms to limit the value of the player in that roster spot such as being unavailable for the rest of the year in the case of the Red Shirt designation. In the case of players that still may be promoted to the active roster, exposure to other teams is necessary, lest the spot not be transitional. The compensation for the claiming system would use future draft picks, based off agreed values.

I propose that we do away completely with the current rules for practice squad and institute the following rules from my other dynasty league:

c. Practice Squad (PS) – up to 6 players on PS and FS combined
The practice squad is a transitional spot on the roster for any player of any year. Any player can be placed on the practice squad that is not already on the active roster (ie, FAs or players traded for). Players on active rosters must be cut and clear waivers before they can be added to the PS. All teams must designate their PS players by 11:59 PM on the Sunday before the first NFL game.

For details about how to claim other team’s PS players, please refer to section 5.

d. Farm Squad (FS) – up to 6 players on PS and FS combined
The FS is a place for your underachieving draft picks to develop. Any player drafted by that team in the last 2 drafts is eligible for the FS of the team that drafted them (players that are traded, cut, or moved to any other part of your roster are no longer eligible for the FS). All teams must designate their FS players by 11:59 PM on the Sunday before the first NFL game.

For details about how to claim other team’s FS players, please refer to section 5.

e. Red Shirt (RS) – up to 4 players
Any player, regardless of whether or not they are injured can be placed on your RS. Players that are placed on RS must remain on your RS until the end of the fantasy season. These players may not be cut, traded, or moved to any other part of your roster. All teams must designate their RS players by 11:59 PM on the Sunday before the first NFL game. You may put a player on RS at any time during the season, so long as you have an RS spot available.

e. Practice Squad Claims
PS claims can be made at any time during the regular season. No claims may be made during the off-season. The claiming team is responsible for emailing the owner and posting a claim in the appropriate thread in the DLF forum. The DLF forum timestamp will determine which claim was made first.

The owner must respond in the DLF forum within a week of the timestamp whether they will activate the player to the active roster by moving the player from the IR, OR they forfeit the player and receive compensation at the end of the season based on the player’s performance. If no response is made within one week, the claim will be processed. If the owner's response comes after the player's team plays a game, the claiming team has the option to w/d his claim within one week of the initial claim's timestamp. The deadline for claims is week 12.

For details on the compensation system for PS claims, please refer to section 6.

f. Farm Squad Claims
FS claims can be made at any time during the regular season. No claims may be made during the off-season. The claiming team is responsible for emailing the owner and posting a claim in the appropriate thread in the DLF forum. The DLF forum timestamp will determine which claim was made first.

The owner must respond in the DLF forum within a week of the timestamp whether they will activate the player to the active roster by moving the player from the IR, OR they forfeit the player and receive immediate compensation based on the player’s draft pick value. If no response is made within one week, the claim will be processed. If the owner's response comes after the player's team plays a game, the claiming team has the option to w/d his claim within one week of the initial claim's timestamp. The deadline for claims is week 12.

For details on the compensation system for FS claims, please refer to section 6.

6. Compensation for PS and FS claims

This may all seem very complicated upon first look, but its really quite simple once you get the hang of it. The commissioner and/or co-commissioner will be happy to answer any questions you may have.

a. Draft Pick Value Chart
All compensations on PS and FS claims will adhere to the following draft pick value chart. This chart is only mandatory to use for compensation of PS and FS claims and is optional for anything else.

Draft Pick Value Chart
Round 1 _____ Pick Value _____ Round 2 _____ Pick Value _____ Round 3 _____ Pick Value
1 _______________ 2500 ___________ 13 ___________ 344 ___________ 25 ___________ 110
2 _______________ 1650 ___________ 14 ___________ 320 ___________ 26 ___________ 102
3 _______________ 1175 ___________ 15 ___________ 300 ___________ 27 ____________ 94
4 ________________ 960 ___________ 16 ___________ 280 ___________ 28 ____________ 86
5 ________________ 810 ___________ 17 ___________ 260 ___________ 29 ____________ 78
6 ________________ 730 ___________ 18 ___________ 240 ___________ 30 ____________ 70
7 ________________ 655 ___________ 19 ___________ 220 ___________ 31 ____________ 62
8 ________________ 595 ___________ 20 ___________ 200 ___________ 32 ____________ 54
9 ________________ 535 ___________ 21 ___________ 180 ___________ 33 ____________ 47
10 _______________ 475 ___________ 22 ___________ 160 ___________ 34 ____________ 43
11 _______________ 420 ___________ 23 ___________ 140 ___________ 35 ____________ 39
12 _______________ 380 ___________ 24 ___________ 124 ___________ 36 ____________ 37

b. FS claims:
1- Draft pick value of player on FS is attained based on value of pick from year drafted.
2- Claiming team must trade at least that value (and up to 10% over if necessary) in future picks to the original owner.
3- All future picks are assumed to have a draft position of 9th in each round and are found on the future pick value chart (section 6d).
4- Compensational draft pick packages can be done using picks from the next two drafts at the owner's discretion. If the proper compensation package is not feasible, next available picks must be used and approved by the commissioner.

Example: If Colin were to place Joe McKnight on the FS, he would have a value of 300 points because he was drafted 15th overall. Any claiming team would have to offer me between 300-330 points in compensation which comes out to either a first rounder next year, or a second next year and first two years out, at the claiming teams discretion.

c. For PS claims:
1- Player is traded in one side trade if owner does not activate player.
2- At the end of the regular season (week 13), the player’s point-per-game is valued by position for the games claimed for and compensation points are determined. (Example: Lets say LeGarrette Blount was placed on someone’s practice squad. If he was claimed after week 6, his PPG for the final 10 games would be 130pt/10week, meaning 13 PPG for the weeks claimed. Comparing that number with the overall PPG of RB/WR/TE at the end of the year means he would rank about 35th. If he were claimed after week 1, the compensation would be much less because he contributed less per game for the claiming team.)
3- Claiming team must trade at least that value (and up to 10% over if necessary) in future picks to the original owner.
4- All future picks are assumed to have a draft position of 9th in each round and are found on the future pick value chart (section 6d).
5- Compensational draft pick packages can be done using picks from the two next drafts at the owner’s discretion. If no compensation package is feasible, next available picks must be used and approved by the commissioner.

Pick compensation will be according to 5 tiers of performance based on points per game (PPG) and 5 pick values according to the following table:

Player Production Value Chart – To be used for PS compensatory picks
Tier _____ RB/WR/TE _____ QB _____ IDP _____ Pick Value
1 ___________ 40 ___________ 5 _______ 3 _________ 192
2 ___________ 60 __________ 10 _______ 6 _________ 116
3 ___________ 80 __________ 20 _______ 9 __________ 65
4 __________ 100 __________ 30 _______ 20 _________ 39
5 ___________ All __________ All _______ All _________ 17 (no compensation)

Example: if a RB/WR/TE finishes in the top 60 (but not in the top 40) of all RB/WR/TEs based on PPG at the end of the regular season, the claiming team owes the original team 2nd tier compensation, which is 69 points. They can use their picks for that year’s draft as compensation or use the future draft pick value chart (section 6d) for future picks. Packages using the next two drafts are acceptable.

The compensation will be reduced by one tier if the player participates in less than 4 games.

d. Future Draft Pick Value Chart

Future Pick Value Chart
Pick __ This year (0.0.0) ___ Next year (1.0.0) ____ 2y out (2.0.0)* ______ 3y (3.0.0)* _____ 4y (4.0.0)*
0.1.9 ______ 535 _________________ 321 _______________ 192 _____________ 116 _________________ 69
0.2.9 ______ 180 _________________ 108 ________________ 65 ______________ 39 _________________ 23
0.3.9 ______ 47 __________________ 28 _________________ 17 ______________ 10 __________________ 6

*Future picks more than two drafts out may not be traded, unless no compensation in the next two drafts is available. In this case, it must be approved by the team receiving the compensation and the commissioner. Transactions involving picks more than 2 years out will only be considered for PS claims.

---------- Post added February-6th-2013 at 05:31 PM ----------

Ill try to list some of the biggest differences.

The practice squad is for any player of any year. Their compensation is based on their end of year performance. There are no takebacks. The purpose is for flyers so the compensation is not very high. The farm squad is to protect underperforming draft picks that are still in first and second year. Their compensation is based on their draft postion. Players cannot be demoted from the active roster. Those rules are for 10 spots on the IR- 4RS, 6 PS/FS. We can modify that to 3 RS, 5PS/FS. The compensation system uses the draft trade value chart and point values to better reflect the value of each player instead of our rigid system.

Please feel free to ask questions or why we chose something, etc.

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Man, I was starting to miss the old CCFF....welcome back poindexter.

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Good lord....here i am trying to simplify things for a smoother and more league friendly fantasy football experience....our rules are already complicated and people are disinterested as it is.

[GOSKN5]

yeah, Im just not interested in the claim system, compensation and all that.... i dont think that makes me any less involved... i just think we draft players and deserve to have a place to put them to wait for them to develop.. if you want someone off someone elses PS trade them a draft pick... thats just my thoughts...

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Hey Daa, clear some pm's from your inbox bro, tried to respond to you but couldn't. Also left some help on the league chat at MFL for you concerning your helmet.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

Damn there is a lot going on there CCFF.