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[kuraitengai]

i think leave the IR like it is now, anyone can go on. and fix it in the offseason.

but if we change it to people have to be hurt, i cant set it up in FF cuz then we wouldnt be able to add the PS guys who arent hurt. so if we change it to only hurt guys, it will be on the honor system.

that said, i wouldnt have an issue with being able to move during the season so a gore injury could go on for 3 weeks and come off. but thats offseason talk.

[kuraitengai]

fancy and drops real IR players have been added to the new 8 man IR/PS.

everyone else send me a PM with who you need added when you get a chance. ill check back in later tonight.

[f_trizzy]

on second thought, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut.




I want Matt to keep Greene. He did everything by the rules, I did not. At the end of the year I will decide whether or not I want him back but for now, I think he should stay with Matt.

I still would like to see the PS system ammended somehow so that we don't have this problem again. Even if it is just stating you must PM or email the other owner. Or that the other owner must acknowledge the claim on FF before the 48 hours begins.

Its obvious that some of you are very passionate about this league, admittedly alot more so than I. I'm learning pretty quick this isnt a fly by the seat of your pants league. Now its on me to decide how seriously do I want to start taking being a member of this league because its apparent that I haven't taken it seriously enough.

[ChrisCooleyFunkFactory]

Generally, rules should not be changed during the year b/c they can affect people differently before and after. If a problem has been identified as being detrimental to league as a whole, where members contemplate quitting as a result, then rule changes should be considered in the middle of the season.

Problem 1- People do not like having to look on roster thread before picking up a FA.

Background- I believe people could agree that non injured people should not be allowed on the IR. As it is it stands right now, no team has more than two healthy, active players on their IR.

Solution- I propose we place a limit on two healthy active players being placed on the IR. It wont fix the problem, but it will prevent the problem from growing, while still being fair.

Problem 2- The PS claiming system requires managers to log into FF during the middle of the week to monitor for claims.

Background- An already tabled proposal has been to PM and Email the manager of the claimed player. This is good, but it still requires managers to log into ES or their email during the middle of the week too.

Solution- I propose we PM and Email (if available) but allow the manager of the claimed player until a later time to respond to said claim. This would require the commissioner to manually move the player b/c as it gets closer to sunday, the player could not be traded that week secondary to the 48 hr veto period. Also, the manager needs to make their decision about keeping the player long term or not AT THAT TIME, not at the end of the year.

This solution can go into effect now as there have been no successful claims this year with the return of Coffee and Greene to their original teams.

Problem 3- Some managers have different abilities to pay attention to the intricacies of the league.

I have noticed that when rule changes go into effect, there is always someone always breaks that rule soon after claiming that they did not know about the rule change.

Solution- I propose that we require everyone in the league acknowledge any change in the rules. I do not know what system to use for this but I think there needs to be accountability equal to the level of complexity.

Edit: If Shonne Greene does not go back to Trizzy, then forget about my solution to problem 2, as that would have to happen next year.

[stoshuaj]

what's up gentlemen? (and 28)

lmao, I come in here b/c TDR is whining to me that you big meanies are picking on him again this yr and I see a bunch of nancy boys whining about the practice squad.

lemme tell you sumpin', you ain't seen nuthin' 'til your practice squad gets "Nutted" like mine did last year. 3 draft picks later, what do I have? JamesfriggingHardy......

Kur, get these jabronies back in line, will ya.

dynasties are tough , new dynasties even tougher, and new dynasties with a different format being developed from the ground up.....takes patience fellas (and ladies). You got in b/c you wanted a challenge and something different.

Just think of it as going the gay for a little while. Sure it sounded e-z at first but then you ran into a couple of bumps and big old tree along the way. You gonna let that stop you? Hell no!!! Just push that junk out of the way and get to the promised land. From there, it's all gravy baby.......at least that's what Drop told me.

Hang in there boys,,,people are watching to see what becomes of this thing.

or else I may just have to come back as lucky team 13 and run this dump again......lol

[kuraitengai]

on second thought, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut.




I want Matt to keep Greene. He did everything by the rules, I did not. At the end of the year I will decide whether or not I want him back but for now, I think he should stay with Matt.

I still would like to see the PS system ammended somehow so that we don't have this problem again. Even if it is just stating you must PM or email the other owner. Or that the other owner must acknowledge the claim on FF before the 48 hours begins.

Its obvious that some of you are very passionate about this league, admittedly alot more so than I. I'm learning pretty quick this isnt a fly by the seat of your pants league. Now its on me to decide how seriously do I want to start taking being a member of this league because its apparent that I haven't taken it seriously enough.

id already put both greene and coffee back on the original rosters. so too late. i left them both on the PS though. so they are technically able to be claimed again this week.

and since everyone is in agreement, even if not, we still have a majority for the notification of claimed by PM or email. which ill go add to the rules.

[kuraitengai]

Problem 1- People do not like having to look on roster thread before picking up a FA.

Background- I believe people could agree that non injured people should not be allowed on the IR. As it is it stands right now, no team has more than two healthy, active players on their IR.

Solution- I propose we place a limit on two healthy active players being placed on the IR. It wont fix the problem, but it will prevent the problem from growing, while still being fair.

get the whole changing rules thing in the middle. but i dont think adding three more IR slots falls under that since it was simplifying the existing setup.

but as far as non injured people on IR. in the offseason we can decide if we want to limit it to two players or injured only.

Problem 2- The PS claiming system requires managers to log into FF during the middle of the week to monitor for claims.

Background- An already tabled proposal has been to PM and Email the manager of the claimed player. This is good, but it still requires managers to log into ES or their email during the middle of the week too.

Solution- I propose we PM and Email (if available) but allow the manager of the claimed player until a later time to respond to said claim. This would require the commissioner to manually move the player b/c as it gets closer to sunday, the player could not be traded that week secondary to the 48 hr veto period. Also, the manager needs to make their decision about keeping the player long term or not AT THAT TIME, not at the end of the year.

This solution can go into effect now as there have been no successful claims this year with the return of Coffee and Greene to their original teams.

about to add the notification. but pretty much everyone in this league gets on ES at least once during the week. so a pm notification isnt a big deal. and there is a stipulation in the rules that if an owner wont be available to make a decision the person making the claim can give him extra time.
and im for making the decision of taking the player back or taking the comp pick should be made at the time of the claim.

Problem 3- Some managers have different abilities to pay attention to the intricacies of the league.

I have noticed that when rule changes go into effect, there is always someone always breaks that rule soon after claiming that they did not know about the rule change.

Solution- I propose that we require everyone in the league acknowledge any change in the rules. I do not know what system to use for this but I think there needs to be accountability equal to the level of complexity.

not sure how to do that one other than someone going to everyones house to make sure they read the rules...

[ChrisCooleyFunkFactory]

get the whole changing rules thing in the middle. but i dont think adding three more IR slots falls under that since it was simplifying the existing setup.

but as far as non injured people on IR. in the offseason we can decide if we want to limit it to two players or injured only.

Please explain why you say that we have to wait to the offseason to put a limit on the number of non-injured players that can go onto IR. A two person limit is fair for all.

about to add the notification. but pretty much everyone in this league gets on ES at least once during the week. so a pm notification isnt a big deal. and there is a stipulation in the rules that if an owner wont be available to make a decision the person making the claim can give him extra time.
and im for making the decision of taking the player back or taking the comp pick should be made at the time of the claim.

The new PS claims system using PMs and/or email still requires that the claim be made between tuesday and thursday. I am proposing a wider window for the manager of the claimed player to respond.

Case in point, even if Pho had been PMed or emailed, he would have to check either one of those accounts between tuesday 3am and thursday 3am, which is effectively saying, on wednesday. Just one day.

That is not cool.

.............. and as far as the acknowledgement of rules changes, it could be as simple as you sending out a PM to everyone in the league about the rules change, and everyone have to reply to it.

[Drop]

see ladies, NOW we're working things out the right way.

This is what i like to see.


I'm down with the claim notice to the manager being claimed upon, great idea. we should have set that in stone long ago.

CCFF has some good ideas, i think some of his stuff needs to wait till the offseason, but i like his ideas.

Should we perhaps have a seperate thread just to put down offseason issues that need to be addressed? Because if we keep going at this rate, it's gonna get hard to remember every issue we've said needs addressing in the offseason. We've already got the auction stuff, and new IR rules to look into....and i thought we already had 1 or 2 more issues to address? but maybe i'm wrong. Just trying to think of a way to catalogue the things that need to be put on the backburner for the time being.

and you gotta love Stosh coming in here and talking sense into everyone. The ole' bastard ain't even in the league anymore, and he still cares about it like it's his baby.

haha, and i laughed hard at the JamesfrigginHardy part. That claim either ended up netting me Orakpo, or the trade i did for Vilma. Either way, getting value for nothing more than a claim was the bomb diggity bomb bomb.

[ChrisCooleyFunkFactory]

on second thought, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut.




I want Matt to keep Greene. He did everything by the rules, I did not. At the end of the year I will decide whether or not I want him back but for now, I think he should stay with Matt.

I still would like to see the PS system ammended somehow so that we don't have this problem again. Even if it is just stating you must PM or email the other owner. Or that the other owner must acknowledge the claim on FF before the 48 hours begins.

Its obvious that some of you are very passionate about this league, admittedly alot more so than I. I'm learning pretty quick this isnt a fly by the seat of your pants league. Now its on me to decide how seriously do I want to start taking being a member of this league because its apparent that I haven't taken it seriously enough.

Trizzy, you should take back Shonne Greene. Kur said that under the current rules, the claiming team has the ability to extend the time for the other manager to respond. You obviously wanted to keep Shonne. MattFancy essentially extended the amount of time you had to respond.

In the future, however, I do not think we should allow for this flexibility. Someone should not feel guilty if they chose NOT to extend the time.

[Drop]

Case in point, even if Pho had been PMed or emailed, he would have to check either one of those accounts between tuesday 3am and thursday 3am, which is effectively saying, on wednesday. Just one day.

That is not cool.

lol, that's some fuzzy math buddy. If someone makes a claim on Tuesday at 3 AM....then they have ALL day Tuesday, and ALL day Wednesday to get the claim responded too.

I'm not saying the window shouldn't be wider, i'm just saying that math does not compute.

It's clear that you have 48 hours....lol, how you turned that into 24 hours is beyond me.

[twenty-eight]

STOSH SIGHTING!!! hey buddddy! whenever you're ready to come back let us know. We'll just give TDR the boot

[ChrisCooleyFunkFactory]

lol, that's some fuzzy math buddy. If someone makes a claim on Tuesday at 3 AM....then they have ALL day Tuesday, and ALL day Wednesday to get the claim responded too.

I'm not saying the window shouldn't be wider, i'm just saying that math does not compute.

It's clear that you have 48 hours....lol, how you turned that into 24 hours is beyond me.

Well, it made sense when 28 explained it to me. So im blaming him, or whatever it was I was doing when I was with him... cough...

[twenty-eight]

lol, that's some fuzzy math buddy. If someone makes a claim on Tuesday at 3 AM....then they have ALL day Tuesday, and ALL day Wednesday to get the claim responded too.

I'm not saying the window shouldn't be wider, i'm just saying that math does not compute.

It's clear that you have 48 hours....lol, how you turned that into 24 hours is beyond me.

haha. I thought you were at work, dunph? Sounds like you're straight chillin

Well, it made sense when 28 explained it to me. So im blaming him, or at whatever it was I was doing when I was with him... cough...

Don't blame me because you're a buffoon

[Drop]

Well, it made sense when 28 explained it to me. So im blaming him, or whatever it was I was doing when I was with him... cough...

haha, word, i hear that.