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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark The Homer View Post
    The "elite" jersey IS NOT the same jersey worn by the players.

    Of course not. The "game jersey" is worn by the players. Hence the name "game jersey"
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    I was gifted a burgundy T-shirt with the logo on the front and "Griffin III 10" on the back like a jersey. Now, if I were to go to a game which one would be more "proper" to wear, a T-shirt jersey of RGIII or a replica LaRon Landry real jersey?

    I'm sure this has been asked but I would like to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabsuz View Post
    I was gifted a burgundy T-shirt with the logo on the front and "Griffin III 10" on the back like a jersey. Now, if I were to go to a game which one would be more "proper" to wear, a T-shirt jersey of RGIII or a replica LaRon Landry real jersey?

    I'm sure this has been asked but I would like to know.

    I don't understand the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabsuz View Post
    I was gifted a burgundy T-shirt with the logo on the front and "Griffin III 10" on the back like a jersey. Now, if I were to go to a game which one would be more "proper" to wear, a T-shirt jersey of RGIII or a replica LaRon Landry real jersey?

    I'm sure this has been asked but I would like to know.
    Which one is burgundy? Which ever one is burgundy, wear that one.

    It's more proper to wear a jersey I suppose, but since Landry is no longer with the team you may want to wear RGIII instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpringfieldSkins View Post
    Which one is burgundy? Which ever one is burgundy, wear that one.

    It's more proper to wear a jersey I suppose, but since Landry is no longer with the team you may want to wear RGIII instead.
    Both are burgundy, sorry if that was confusing. It just boils down to jersey of a player no longer on team vs T-shirt jersey of a new player. Is wearing a Landry jersey to a game considered taboo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabsuz View Post
    Both are burgundy, sorry if that was confusing. It just boils down to jersey of a player no longer on team vs T-shirt jersey of a new player. Is wearing a Landry jersey to a game considered taboo?
    I personally don't think the player on the jersey matters at home games. I have seen everything from beat up Shuler jersey's to Hayneworth's duds. The only things that means anything is the burgundy and gold. Players change way too much to stay current unless you are a baller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonnyandSam View Post
    Of course not. The "game jersey" is worn by the players. Hence the name "game jersey"
    It is kind of misleading. The Game Jersey is the Repilca and the Elite Jersey is the "Authentic" Jerseys. I know with Reebok the Authentic were not 100% exactly what the players wore on the field.
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    It is kind of misleading. The Game Jersey is the Repilca and the Elite Jersey is the "Authentic" Jerseys. I know with Reebok the Authentic were not 100% exactly what the players wore on the field.
    Your sarcasm meter must have been turned off when you read my post. I was kidding around with my old buddy Mark the Homer, our resident jersey expert.
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    Your sarcasm meter must have been turned off when you read my post. I was kidding around with my old buddy Mark the Homer, our resident jersey expert.
    Yea it was, sorry bout that.
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    Yea it was, sorry bout that.
    That's OK....always hard to tell in written posts or emails. I agree with you, however, the "game jersey" designation is misleading. I would think the "game jersey" would be a close approximation to what the players really wear. At least Reebok's "authentic" designation made some sense. Not sure how "elite" implies in any way similarities to the actual jersey worn by the players.
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    Default Re: Jerseys - Game-Worn, Team-Issued, Authentic, Replica, Fake, and everything in between

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    That's OK....always hard to tell in written posts or emails. I agree with you, however, the "game jersey" designation is misleading. I would think the "game jersey" would be a close approximation to what the players really wear. At least Reebok's "authentic" designation made some sense. Not sure how "elite" implies in any way similarities to the actual jersey worn by the players.

    "Elite" has been the moniker that Nike uses for all its highest-level authentic jerseys for many years now, including college basketball and college football. Just part of their naming thing, always been that way. I think the "game" thing (if you read Nike's marketing description or pitch for those jerseys) is that this is like a basic, comfortable "game day" jersey for fans. I agree though, they should have never even used the word "game" in the jerseys at all. Oh well.

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    It seems to me that the league is fixing an "error" they made long ago. For many years, they've been calling certain retail jerseys "authentic." And, of course, the word defined means

    1. not false or copied; genuine; real: e.g. an authentic antique.

    Which implies that if you buy an authentic jersey, it is real. It's the same one as worn on the field.

    So, many fans, especially early on, were misled when buying "authentic" retail jerseys. They believed the jerseys they were buying were the same as worn on the field.

    Gradually the actual game jerseys changed. One of the obvious changes was the tight sleeves. Another change was the use of spandex throughout the jersey.

    And yet, the retail division continued selling "authentic" jerseys, implying the jerseys were "real."

    Some of the Redskins advertising even stated this.



    But this was never true.

    Now - finally - they are fixing this grievous error, which should have been done at least a decade ago.
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    It seems to me that the league is fixing an "error" they made long ago. For many years, they've been calling certain retail jerseys "authentic." And, of course, the word defined means

    1. not false or copied; genuine; real: e.g. an authentic antique.

    Which implies that if you buy an authentic jersey, it is real. It's the same one as worn on the field.

    So, many fans, especially early on, were misled when buying "authentic" retail jerseys. They believed the jerseys they were buying were the same as worn on the field.

    Gradually the actual game jerseys changed. One of the obvious changes was the tight sleeves. Another change was the use of spandex throughout the jersey.

    And yet, the retail division continued selling "authentic" jerseys, implying the jerseys were "real."

    Some of the Redskins advertising even stated this.

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    But this was never true.

    Now - finally - they are fixing this grievous error, which should have been done at least a decade ago.
    Good points, a clear case of the garments (those that we can buy) changing over time, but the naming staying the same ("authentic").

    I think one other point that should be made is this - in essentially all other major sports where fans can buy authentic jerseys (MLB, NHL, NBA), there really is no difference in cut/tailoring/features from one player to another. That is, other than size, Ovechkin's jersey physically is no different than any of his teammates. Same is true of NBA or MLB players. However, in the NFL there has evolved a wide array of custom sizing options that are of course based on individual player preferences (some have loose, longer sleeves w/loose fitting bodies, like QB's, while others prefer short tight sleeves, like receivers, and still others others almost no sleeves at all to allow free movement of oversized arms, like some linemen).

    So to say that you can even produce a single NFL jersey type that is the exact same that is worn on the field is extremely difficult. You can do this without question with jerseys in other sports, but not the NFL. Plus, and maybe most importantly, I don't think too many people would really want to wear the jerseys in the way they are made for NFL players, as over the last 15+ years they have obviously become much tighter and form-fitting, more about on-field function than off-field style. Simply put, jerseys of that nature just would not sell very well at all...especially for most football fans, who, shall we say, love their share of beer n' wings, and therefore probably wouldn't want to show off that "curvy" figure with a tight, heavily-spandexed-but-super-authentic jersey

    I do however still believe, or at least hope, that manufacturers would still construct the "authentic" level jerseys (like the Nike Elite) with the exact same materials as the on-field versions, even if the compromise is a little less spandex and a more generic fit, and I'm thinking that is what Nike has done with their Elite offering. Otherwise, what are we paying $250-300 for? (and I guess I'll find this out soon enough, when my RG3 Elite eventually arrives!)
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    Good points, a clear case of the garments (those that we can buy) changing over time, but the naming staying the same ("authentic").

    I think one other point that should be made is this - in essentially all other major sports where fans can buy authentic jerseys (MLB, NHL, NBA), there really is no difference in cut/tailoring/features from one player to another. That is, other than size, Ovechkin's jersey physically is no different than any of his teammates. Same is true of NBA or MLB players. However, in the NFL there has evolved a wide array of custom sizing options that are of course based on individual player preferences (some have loose, longer sleeves w/loose fitting bodies, like QB's, while others prefer short tight sleeves, like receivers, and still others others almost no sleeves at all to allow free movement of oversized arms, like some linemen).

    So to say that you can even produce a single NFL jersey type that is the exact same that is worn on the field is extremely difficult. You can do this without question with jerseys in other sports, but not the NFL. Plus, and maybe most importantly, I don't think too many people would really want to wear the jerseys in the way they are made for NFL players, as over the last 15+ years they have obviously become much tighter and form-fitting, more about on-field function than off-field style. Simply put, jerseys of that nature just would not sell very well at all...especially for most football fans, who, shall we say, love their share of beer n' wings, and therefore probably wouldn't want to show off that "curvy" figure with a tight, heavily-spandexed-but-super-authentic jersey

    I do however still believe, or at least hope, that manufacturers would still construct the "authentic" level jerseys (like the Nike Elite) with the exact same materials as the on-field versions, even if the compromise is a little less spandex and a more generic fit, and I'm thinking that is what Nike has done with their Elite offering. Otherwise, what are we paying $250-300 for? (and I guess I'll find this out soon enough, when my RG3 Elite eventually arrives!)
    NIKE will try to make the jersey's "look" like the same thing, but they will not be the same as what the players wear. To answer your question of what we are paying $300 for? The answer is: a piece of nylon/polyester that is produced overseas. The actual jersey's worn by the players are made in the USA. The ones available to the consumers are outsourced all over the globe. You'll see this when you get your jersey. Not trying to be a party pooper, but I dont want you to get your hopes up. For consumers to get the "exact same thing" the players wear would be incredibly expensive for NIKE, and most people probably wont know the differences anyway. Hence, they slap a $300 price tag on something that probably costs $12
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