Are You Excited for Socialism?

[Koolblue13]

I don't think we can even argue that we are a left leaning country now, with Obama or McCain set to become the next PotUS.

McCain, over the course of the last 4 years has been towing the GOP line, but has a fairly liberal voting record overall. He has been viewed as a favorite of the Left for a long time before this election and now has become a victim of "two minute hate" as it were.

Being a bit to the right myself, I still feel that Mc leans leftwards at heart and once in the WH, he may start to tilt slowly back that way. A good thing to be able to work with both sides of the house, that's true, but there certainly is no true conservative representation in this election.

Obama on the other hand, is further left, according to his short voting record, than Vermont Socialist, Bernie Sanders. Even if Obama isn't bragging about that, he is still within a sickle length of him.

The Democratic Socialists of America offshoot The New Party has even bragged about getting one of their own elected, referring to Barrack.

I had a friend say to me the other day "A little Socialism is necessary right now" and I couldn't understand. To me, it seems the day of right and wrong is over, when relating to American Principles (regardless of the size of the town) and we have been moving towards this for a long time.

Jefferson said something about Tyranny not coming in the form of war, but welcomed with open arms and it seems that day is truly here.

So, I just was curious about the boards opinion about this.

[alexey]

The Tyranny Jefferson warned us about took place during the last 8 years. What you're seing now is revival of what makes America America.

[JohnLockesGhost]

I can hardly wait for all the free goodies.

[redskinss]

you would have to have been living in a cave without a computer for the last two months not to already know the boards opinion on this subject.

[JohnLockesGhost]

The Tyranny Jefferson warned us about took place during the last 8 years. What you're seing now is revival of what makes America America.

I agree the last eight years have been suckius maximus, but I don't see what Obama's going to change and make it all better.

(Although I think he's slightly better on foreign policy.)

[Koolblue13]

The Tyranny Jefferson warned us about took place during the last 8 years. What you're seing now is revival of what makes America America.

The Tyranny Jefferson warned us about has been happening for a lot longer than that, it's just getting to the steep part of the ride.

[Burgold]

We've adopted socialist ideas into this country for well over a hundred years. I say what works we use and what doesn't we leave in the trash bin.

[HOF44]

They are both to use the term you picked, "socialist", it's just a matter of who they want to give the money to once they take it from you.

[Zguy28]

Socalism?

Does that mean that the rest of the country is going to be like Southern California?


It never rains in Southern California

[JimmyConway]

Come on, are you serious with this thread? Just because the country will have a "moderate" Republican or "the most liberal" Democrat as potus doesn't mean the country is turning to socialism. It just means they're sick of the way things have been going the past 8 years. It's rare to find one party control the POTUS position for more than 2 or 3 terms. After Obama wins and serves one or two terms we'll go back to the GOP most likely. Will we then ask if "We're ready to ride Jesus horses and start another neo-con War?"

[buenosdiaz]

i dont see an answer choice for hell yes

[JohnLockesGhost]

Socalism?

Does that mean that the rest of the country is going to be like Southern California?

Socialism: Where 22-year-olds talk about their pensions.

[Midnight Judges]

You don't know what socialism is.

You're wrong about his voting record.

carry on

[alexey]

I agree the last eight years have been suckius maximus, but I don't see what Obama's going to change and make it all better.

(Although I think he's slightly better on foreign policy.)

I think a little transparancy in government can go a long way to improving the way it does business. I suspect that making the government more transparent is actually pretty high on Obama's list of priorities.

[Prosperity]

I'm fairly excited about the Obama administration, call it by whatever name you want, but I think we are going to improve, and that's good enough for me. Though I'd be wary of throwing out the term so much... remember the story about the boy that cried wolf?

It's best not to use such charged rhetoric unless the links are solid. If they are not then everyone is going to call you a nut when you DO actually cry out at the right time.

Jefferson said something about Tyranny not coming in the form of war, but welcomed with open arms and it seems that day is truly here.

about the only thing that isn't absurd about this analogy is the open arms part, and you forget that despite the disintegration of conservative opposition the liberal van guard is a loose collection of liberals, moderates, and disillusioned independents, Republicans, and libertarians. It won't hold together if any extreme actions are taken.