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    They're fasting on the steps of the Florida Capitol, hoping God will hear their pleas to put an abortion opponent in the White House.

    Prayer warriors will staff the get-out-the-vote command center Tuesday at Ebenezer A.M.E. Church in Fort Washington, Md. A rabbi is distributing a prayer to be said in the voting booth. Prayer circles are seeking courage and protection for Barack Obama and his family.


    The faithful are busy as Nov. 4 nears.


    While politicians are making their final pitch to voters, religious Americans from across the political spectrum are appealing to a higher power on the candidates' behalf.

    "We have just days to pray that someone who upholds the sanctity of life and marriage between one man and one woman will win," said Pam Olsen, co-pastor with her husband of the International House of Prayer in Tallahassee, Fla.


    Olsen, who personally supports Republican John McCain, is organizing a marathon of prayer, fasting and Bible reading at the Capitol starting Saturday until the state's polls close.


    "The outcome is up to God," she said.


    Rabbi David Seidenberg of Northampton, Mass., has written a prayer in Hebrew and English that can be recited just before filling out a ballot. Posted on his blog neohasid.org, and distributed through e-mail, it includes a voter pledge to heal the world and a wish for the country to "pursue righteousness and to seek peace."


    "There still is so much hope and feeling connected to this election and I want to say that in as nonpartisan a way as possible," Seidenberg said in an interview. "It really feels like so much hangs in the balance and so many dreams and hopes hang in the balance right now."


    Many of the election-related prayers seek wisdom for voters to choose the right leader.

    'Please get them off the sofa'



    For the first time, the nation's Roman Catholic bishops have published prayers for immediately before and after the election. They focus on dignity for all, an end to poverty and for "ears that will hear the cries of children unborn." At the bishops' urging, many Catholic parishes on Oct. 27 began a novena, or nine-day prayer cycle, for the election.


    Other appeals get into the nitty gritty of campaigning.


    Seidenberg's text reads, "May it be Your will that votes will be counted faithfully." Among the prayers Olsen's group suggested in the run-up to Nov. 4 is for "the Lord to move in swing states."


    At presidentialprayerteam.net, where people post their appeals on a "prayer wall," Denise from Texas asked God to reach people who haven't yet committed to voting.


    "Let them not be phased by polls, TV ads, political sound bites," she wrote.



    "And for those, Dear God, who need to vote for Your will to be done ... please get them off the sofa and to the voting booth."

    Prayer efforts



    Praying for campaigns and for the health of the nation is hardly new in elections. But this year has seen a more public display of faith among supporters of the Democrat nominee. The Obama campaign's prayer conference calls went from weekly to daily four months ago, and will continue through Election Day. Supporters of the Illinois senator have started prayer circles, enlisting friends to join them online, on the phone or in person to pray for wisdom for the candidate.


    Many churches, including Olsen's, started prayer efforts a month or more ahead of Nov. 4.


    The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, the public policy arm of the 16 million-member Southern Baptist Convention, is wrapping up its 40-day effort with round-the-clock prayer ahead of the election. The commission says more than 4,000 churches are participating.


    The hourly prayers begin with repenting personal sin and include appeals for "candidates to adopt biblical positions on issues" and remember they are accountable to God.


    In a practical turn, participants also pray for God to "help churches find ways to help Christians get to the polls."

    For leaders making personal endorsements, the prayers are unapologetically partisan. Steve Strang, publisher of Charisma, a popular Pentecostal magazine, asked his many readers in an e-mail to pray, fast and "believe for a miracle to see John McCain get elected."


    But many pastors are warning against asking God for a specific outcome.
    The Rev. Adam Hamilton, senior pastor of the 12,000-member United Methodist Church of the Resurrection in Leawood, Kan., has urging his congregants simply to pray for help choosing the right leader for the country. Author of the book, "Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White: Thoughts on Religion, Morality and Politics," Hamilton said no one knows "who God's person for the hour is."


    And considering the state of the economy and the other daunting problems facing the U.S. and the world, Hamilton said churches would do better to focus on asking God to help whoever succeeds President Bush.


    "Who wants this job right now?" Hamilton said. "Whoever wins this election, we're going to have to pull together to pray for them."

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    Good Article
    And, so, it is frustrating when Christians lose their principles and compromise on the brilliant truth and the power of the gospel to save people from all sins. It is frustrating when Christians take the side of the enemy, against fellow believers. And it is frustrating when Christians re-crucify Christ, through their obsession with never-ending transgression. But, all these things – and, so much more – needn't make us afraid; they should make us more ready to love Michael Glatze

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    considering the state of the economy and the other daunting problems facing the U.S. and the world, Hamilton said churches would do better to focus on asking God to help whoever succeeds President Bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twa View Post
    considering the state of the economy and the other daunting problems facing the U.S. and the world, Hamilton said churches would do better to focus on asking God to help whoever succeeds President Bush.

    Amen
    Well the above prayer I certainly endorse, and I will add to it that all the partisan hacks will see the light and get involved to help guide the government return to its roots as the tool of the people.
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    Good find, Brandy. I respect what those folks are doing. It seems as though MSNBC is trying to rebuild a more positive journalistic identity. They appear to be covering a broader range of views and interesting stories without an obvious bias. A couple weeks ago, the head of the news dep't said as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twa View Post
    considering the state of the economy and the other daunting problems facing the U.S. and the world, Hamilton said churches would do better to focus on asking God to help whoever succeeds President Bush.

    Amen
    I'm personally an agnostic teetering on the brink of atheism but I certainly can't find fault with the general sentiment expressed above. Whoever inherits the job from W. is going to have a series of royal messes to clean up.
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    We got a political message from our pastor this morning. Apparently Christians are to only care about a single issue: abortion. While I believe abortion is important considering that 50 million babies have been aborted since 1973, I'd rather not act as a "in the pocket" voting block for one party.

    My pastor basically took a bunch of stuff by The Witherspoon Institute and told us that Obama was going to to actively pursue a pro-abortion policy. This goes beyond pro-choice, but policy that actually cuts funding from pro-life groups that support women thinking about what they should do about an unwanted pregnancy; but even making it legal to have an abortion right up to labor.

    I haven't researched beyond; but I find it really hard to believe that Obama will be able to sign FOCA into law and unilaterally repeal the Hyde amendment without significant consent from Congress... and I'd think there are enough pro-life Democrats that there would be considerable push or blow back on him if he tried this.

    Now, maybe I'll be proven wrong in his first 100 days... but a lot of what I heard sounded like FUD.

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    My Southern California Church was a part of this gathering in San Diego (the Qualcomm one)...
    Thousands gathered at Qualcomm Stadium yesterday to participate in a day of prayer and fasting. The event was the latest in a series of religious gatherings organized in U.S. cities since 2000. Meanwhile, opponents of the measure held a morning prayer service at St. Paul's Episcopal Cathedral near Balboa Park and later a candlelight vigil in Hillcrest with Mayor Jerry Sanders and his lesbian daughter, Lisa.

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    To quote Squidbillies of all things, "Now, Early, that is a life. Even though you don't love it, you don't have any money, and you won't give it any oppurtunities, it could grow up to be President."_The Sheriff

    As it turned out, the eggs hatched into "Draculas" as Early had suspected and proceded to devour the town. Take from this what you will, I offer no interpretation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CM916 View Post
    To quote Squidbillies of all things, "Now, Early, that is a life. Even though you don't love it, you don't have any money, and you won't give it any oppurtunities, it could grow up to be President."_The Sheriff

    As it turned out, the eggs hatched into "Draculas" as Early had suspected and proceded to devour the town. Take from this what you will, I offer no interpretation.

    Amigo, since you posted in the other thread that you're drinking right now, and you're getting more incoherent, rahter than have you running around the threads and maybe getting into real trouble, I'm just gonna give you the rest of the night off and we'll hook ya back up tomorrow.

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    I think it was Abraham Lincoln that said that we need not to pray that God is on our side, but that we are on God's side.
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    You can pray in one hand and **** in the other. See which one gets filled up faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianm23 View Post
    You can pray in one hand and **** in the other. See which one gets filled up faster.


    That was pretty rude.

    Even if you disagree with their beliefs, you should respect their freedom to do so.

    As to the OP, Their prayers make sense and seemed to be grounded in beliefs. What more could be asked of them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by twa View Post
    considering the state of the economy and the other daunting problems facing the U.S. and the world, Hamilton said churches would do better to focus on asking God to help whoever succeeds President Bush.

    Amen
    Indeed. Intercession should be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergasun View Post
    We got a political message from our pastor this morning. Apparently Christians are to only care about a single issue: abortion. While I believe abortion is important considering that 50 million babies have been aborted since 1973, I'd rather not act as a "in the pocket" voting block for one party.

    My pastor basically took a bunch of stuff by The Witherspoon Institute and told us that Obama was going to to actively pursue a pro-abortion policy. This goes beyond pro-choice, but policy that actually cuts funding from pro-life groups that support women thinking about what they should do about an unwanted pregnancy; but even making it legal to have an abortion right up to labor.

    I haven't researched beyond; but I find it really hard to believe that Obama will be able to sign FOCA into law and unilaterally repeal the Hyde amendment without significant consent from Congress... and I'd think there are enough pro-life Democrats that there would be considerable push or blow back on him if he tried this.

    Now, maybe I'll be proven wrong in his first 100 days... but a lot of what I heard sounded like FUD.
    Well he did openly say that the "first thing he would do" was to pass FOCA. I posted a thread about it earlier this month.

    And if the projections are close, he will have heavy majorities in both houses.

    Whether he will follow through on those promises is unknown.
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