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    Trust me - Before you comment, Look at the video on the link....

    OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- A pharmacist who shot a would-be robber six times was charged with first-degree murder Wednesday, and the prosecutor said only the first shot was justified.
    A security video shows two men bursting into the pharmacy May 19 and one of them, 16-year-old Antwun Parker, is shot. Pharmacist Jerome Ersland then is seen chasing the second man outside before he walks past Parker to get a second gun, returns to Parker and opens fire.
    District Attorney David Prater said Ersland was justified in shooting Parker once in the head, but went too far when he shot Parker five more times while Parker lay unconscious on the floor.
    "It is alleged that Parker was unarmed, lying on his back, unconscious but alive, when he was shot in the abdomen by Ersland," Prater said.
    Ersland's attorney, Irven Box, said Ersland was protecting himself and two women inside the Reliable Discount Pharmacy. Box said he thinks a jury will exonerate Ersland.
    "I think he did something in his eyes that protected both himself and two ladies in there," the attorney said. "He put an end to the threat."
    An affidavit written by Detective David Jacobson said Ersland's account doesn't match the video or the evidence collected at the scene.
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    If the prosecutor's correct, I say murder.
    Shooting a guy once?
    Shooting him 5 more times when he's unconscious?

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    Sorry, but I have no compassion for criminals. Give the worker a medal. One less piece of **** off the street.

    *I am not saying the worker was right to come back and finish the guy, but I can't justify charging him with murder and locking him up.
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    Based on the video, I'd have no issue with finding him guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdskn4Lyf21 View Post
    Sorry, but I have no compassion for criminals. Give the worker a medal. One less piece of **** off the street.

    *I am not saying the worker was right to come back and finish the guy, but I can't justify charging him with murder and locking him up.
    Did you watch the video? While you may have no compassion for the kid that was shot - You can't just let the worker go can you? He executed him.

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    I agree that shooting him once was self defense and justifiable. But shooting him 5 more times is uncalled for. After the first shot he should've just called the police and let them take care of it. I have no problem with the store owner going to jail in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMK9973 View Post
    Did you watch the video? While you may have no compassion for the kid that was shot - You can't just let the worker go can you? He executed him.
    I've watched it a few times on news sites and again there. In my opinion when you take part in a criminal activity that threatens the life of another you just forfeited your rights. Sorry, but that **** is inexcusable.

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    Yeeeeah. That's pretty much just plain murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdskn4Lyf21 View Post
    I've watched it a few times on news sites and again there. In my opinion when you take part in a criminal activity that threatens the life of another you just forfeited your rights. Sorry, but that **** is inexcusable.
    That's not your call. That's a jury's call.

    You don't get to kill someone just because you think they deserve it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    That's not your call. That's a jury's call.
    The OP asked for comments and I stated my opinion. So that is my call

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdskn4Lyf21 View Post
    I've watched it a few times on news sites and again there. In my opinion when you take part in a criminal activity that threatens the life of another you just forfeited your rights. Sorry, but that **** is inexcusable.
    So lets say he didn't shot him and the cops came.
    Would you support the death penalty for armed robbery? Even where no one was shot or killed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdskn4Lyf21 View Post
    The OP asked for comments and I stated my opinion. So that is my call
    Fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    That's not your call. That's a jury's call.

    You don't get to kill someone just because you think they deserve it.
    QFT. Vigilante justice=bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by TMK9973 View Post
    So lets say he didn't shot him and the cops came.
    Would you support the death penalty for armed robbery? Even where no one was shot or killed?
    Good question...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMK9973 View Post
    So lets say he didn't shot him and the cops came.
    Would you support the death penalty for armed robbery? Even where no one was shot or killed?
    **** yeah.

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    1. I'd like to congratulate him on a damn fine shot: Some cops should be so lucky.

    2. If i'm allowed to shoot you in the head, i'm allowed to kill you. that's the point of a gun. its not a shoot to wound weapon.

    They came into his pharmacy with intent to kill: gun was drawn and pointed.
    At that point they have discarded their right to life.


    (I'm pro life, but i'm pro defense of your own life also)

    I'd give him manslaughter at most.
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