How much do you view through the prism of race

[ConnSKINS26]

You know a lot about this girl.

And when did SATs go to 2100? I don't even know what that number means.

Christ, I feel old.

Anyway, Yale's a dump. Tell him to go to Brown and be happy.

They're out of 2400 now, so 2100 is fairly good, although not for Ivy League. 1800, not so much. Idk how that would get you into Yale, to be honest. I got a 1960, about halfway between these two scores, and I can tell you that Yale wasn't really interested. Our valedictorian? Got only 40 points higher than I did, and didn't get past the interview with Yale. Although he was the stereotypical valedictorian, no life, no personality, no leadership qualities. Good schools don't just look at numbers nowadays, test scores can easily be overcome.

[difleha]

that's a weak valedictorian. our's had a 1550 SAT (don't remember out of 2400, but I believe its like a 2300 or soemthing). I scored a 2080 and I was ranked 87 out of 430 with a 3.75. I knew better than to apply to the Ivy leagues: only *******s go to those schools and I wouldn't have gotten in or been able to afford it.

and once again WHAT does that have to do with my quote? stay on topic. move this to PM or start another thread about Ivy leagues or move to an affirmative action thread, lord knows there are tons.

He also frequently posts on collegeconfidential.com about how SAT score is not the end all be all of all criteria. He says it is more about the quality of character that counts and not those stoic valedictorians who participate in a ****load of clubs but never really do anything that is unique.

Well, it bit him in the ass when he found out that an African American student got accepted and he didn't.

[ConnSKINS26]

Well, it bit him in the ass when he found out that an African American student got accepted and he didn't.

What does that have to do with anything? How about, "it bit him in the ass when he found out that a better candidate (if not necessarily a better highschool student) got accepted and he didn't.

You are the exact person that this thread is about.

[difleha]

They're out of 2400 now, so 2100 is fairly good, although not for Ivy League. 1800, not so much. Idk how that would get you into Yale, to be honest. I got a 1960, about halfway between these two scores, and I can tell you that Yale wasn't really interested. Our valedictorian? Got only 40 points higher than I did, and didn't get past the interview with Yale. Although he was the stereotypical valedictorian, no life, no personality, no leadership qualities. Good schools don't just look at numbers nowadays, test scores can easily be overcome.

He tried to get accepted into NHS but somehow they wouldn't accept him. Maybe we should play the discrimination card?

I wouldn't want to list all of what he did, but I can guarantee you that he has a life, spoke to thousands of people(slurred voice but spoke with confidence), and helped out young deaf children at a deaf camp.

[difleha]

What does that have to do with anything? How about, "it bit him in the ass when he found out that a better candidate (if not necessarily a better highschool student) got accepted and he didn't.

You are the exact person that this thread is about.

No. No. No.

Read my post again. The other student had lower test scores but had better qualities and that was the reason why it was so hysterical. Because my brother was striving for Yale to overlook his test scores and see his passions and desires.

[skinfan13]

He also frequently posts on collegeconfidential.com about how SAT score is not the end all be all of all criteria. He says it is more about the quality of character that counts and not those stoic valedictorians who participate in a ****load of clubs but never really do anything that is unique.

Well, it bit him in the ass when he found out that an African American student got accepted and he didn't.

you're trying desperately to justify the fact that your brother didn't get in.

I see no evidence of discrimination here.

again, stop ignoring the parts were I ask you what any of this had to do with my quote. what did it have to do with it? stop trolling and discuss this somewhere else.

[difleha]

you're trying desperately to justify the fact that your brother didn't get in.

I see no evidence of discrimination here.

again, stop ignoring the parts were I ask you what any of this had to do with my quote. what did it have to do with it? stop trolling and discuss this somewhere else.

Okay, I'll stop - you don't own this thread though - but I will never cease to be proud of my brother and how he handled the whole situation. Walked right up to the Yale student of '13 and gave her a hug for her acceptance into Yale.

[difleha]

you're trying desperately to justify the fact that your brother didn't get in.

I see no evidence of discrimination here.

I've already finished trying to justify that a while ago. Now it's just you and me rambling...

Maybe you didn't read my last post. Don't you see the evidence here?

Girl: 1800 sat score. Ranked 17th out of 500 kids. Don't know more about her though. Probably wrote a stellar essay though...

Brother: 2100 sat score. Ranked 1st out of 500. Okay essay. Wrote a bill on demanding more rights to handicapped kids in school. Plays soccer and golf. Ranked 51st in a national debating tournament.

[Park City Skins]

Now it's just you and me rambling...

So what say we stop rambling then and get this thread back on track? Thanks.

[RedskinNutt]

So get out there a marry a Puerto Rican. Your country needs you to.

a f'n men brother. the whole thread could've and should've ended with that.

[skinfan13]

now to see if we can start this conversation back were it ended

There are fan-made "Star Wars" movies on line that are better than anything Lucas has done since 1980.

And while this may seem completely off the main subject, I think it ties in directly.

People who say "I'm not a racist" are, to me, similar to artists who try to tell you what their art means. It's really not your call.

The fact that you married someone of a different race or have friends of a different race or work with people of a different race doesn't mean much to me.

Hopefully, we are all civil with one another. Civility is not the answer to the question, however.

Professor Stephen Carter of Yale said once that saying you aren't a racist is like saying you're humble: it just doesn't work. both are qualities that must be observed about you by others.

[Seabee1973]

Ask yourself these questions.

1. If Donovan McNabb was involved in a civil suit where the assault desribed is essentially rape, would ESPN have buried and ignored the story?

2. Would a white Harvard Professor have been arrested if he had locked himself out of his house?


There is a racial aspect to every news story, every sports story, every book, and every movie. Hell, it's every business story.

Who got blamed for the housing bubble? Poor black people.

Who got blamed for Prop 8 in California? Black voters.

This is just stuff in the last 8 months.

But we are supposed to be post-racial.

answer to number 1 I woudl hope if it sounded like the lady was making it up then yes iot would and should be a non issue.

number 2 If the white professer got unruly then yes he would deserve to get arrested.

Remember the Duke rape case. 4 white guys get arrested and vbasically have their lives ruined

[10fttall]

Professor Stephen Carter of Yale said once that saying you aren't a racist is like saying you're humble: it just doesn't work. both are qualities that must be observed about you by others.

Sorry, but that's a bunch of shenanigans. The quality of being not racist must be observed? That's weak and illogical. It's a catch 22. It doesn't take into account that some people are blinded and indoctrinated. What they consider racist is sometimes laughable. If I do something, or don't do something innocently and some activist thinks it's racist; that doesn't make it so. It doesn't depend on people's viewpoint. What if they're a dumbass? There is a standard and people who make outlandish stretches and play the race card like it's a casino game, can suck it. All it does is cause more hate.

[illone]

I think people are far too sensitive about race. I could care less about your skin color because chances are I will not like you because you are a dishonest, insincere douchebag. If you happen to be brown or yellow, so be it.

Certainly the world looks at everything through a prism of race but I dance to my own drummer. I guess I subconsciously consider race, but never in a sense of fear or hatred. I do make fun of my brown and yellow friends for being, well, brown and yellow, but it's nothing serious and if someone gets offended by that then it's their problem because I mean nothing derogatory by it at all.

One thing I do know is that Asian women are hawt, I love burritos, and that curry cuscus I had the other night was amazing.

[Shilsu]

I'd like to pretend I'm clean, and race is never a factor for me and others but the truth is that we're all human. As a minority, I have felt discriminated against or felt that unfair stereotypes had prevented me from succeeding in certain situations. At the same time, I also have stereotyped and discriminated against others, including my own race.

As an Asian, I feel it is very difficult to succeed on other factors besides pure merit. What I mean is, there are several white people who are successful not because they are good at what they do, but because they maintain good relationships and are charismatic. Once they infiltrate the good old boys club, there's nothing stopping them. It just doesn't seem possible for the typical Asian to be able to do that in a white-dominated society, not to the same extent but similar to the way it is almost impossible for a white person to have the same opportunities at a successful corporate career in Japan or Korea as a Japanese or Korean native.

YET, when I do see the uncommon Asian who does so, I consider him whitewashed. And even though I'm probably more on the liberal side of the immigration issue, I tend to dislike Latinos. I just don't like the way they act, I've had a couple of bad experiences with them, and just by skimming the police reports on the Fairfax County Police Department's web-site, you can't help but notice many of the more heinous crimes are being committed by Latino guys.

Also, has anyone seen "Do the Right Thing" by Spike Lee? One of the most profound things I read after watching the movie was that most black people will tend to be appalled at Radio Raheem's death, while most white people will be shocked at what happens to Sal's pizzaria. Admittedly, I felt stronger about Sal's pizzaria, but after reading that piece of knowledge, I realized there was really no way I could justify the destruction of a simple pizza shop as being worse than the death of a black man just because he played the radio too loud.

So yeah, I'm racist. I wish I wasn't, though.