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    I'll be the first to admit I am not a offensive coach. Given the amount of WR that we have I think that it would be a good idea to spread the field. We have at least 3 capable WR and cooley which gives you four pass catchers. I do not know any teams that are four corners deep. Plus if you spread the field it makes your opponent play at best a nickle, most likely a dime b/c Linebackers can't run with cooley.

    When this happens all of a sudden portis is looking at 5 at most six men in the box if they bring down a saftey. New England runs many draws out of the shotgun and is very succesful at it. JC could always line up under center and do a run play the old fashion way.

    I know it was garbage time against the G-men but the no huddle was very effetive. I think we should also mix in a little no huddle in our game plan. If it works great if not no harm done. just my opinion

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    I agree with you. I think it actually will work really well. It seemed JC was comfortable in it when it was ran. I'm all for it. But that means it probably won't be ran often unless it's in a dyer situation.

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    Default Re: Spread them out, no huddle

    i think most people agree with this but its not us who can make a change


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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman5607 View Post
    I agree with you. I think it actually will work really well. It seemed JC was comfortable in it when it was ran. I'm all for it. But that means it probably won't be ran often unless it's in a dyer situation.
    not true. just because you go spread formation on 1st down doesnt mean you can't incorporate a successful running game and give clinton 20 touches a game. for some reason i don't think zorn realizes this.
    Last edited by Skinz4Life12; September-16th-2009 at 08:49 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinz4Life12 View Post
    not true. just because you go spread formation on 1st down doesnt mean you can't incorporate a successful running game and give clinton 20 touches a game. for some reason i don't think zorn realizes this.
    I was referring to the no huddle not being ran, not Portis running the ball. Sorry for the confusion.

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    Default Re: Spread them out, no huddle

    it would be great to incorporate into the game plan, but Zorn doens't seem to have plans-just scripts with no middle and end

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    Default Re: Spread them out, no huddle

    The "brain power" of this organization is just too small for us to succeed IMO. Judgment, creativity, analysis, and decision making are not hallmarks of this group of decision makers. I wished it were different but there is too much evidence to even hope for the best.
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    He was asked on the radio yesterday about passing more (not exactly your idea, but along the same lines). Kevin Sheehan (sp?) asked why we didn't pass more since we had much more success through the air.

    Zorn originally answered that he didn't want to panic since we had time to climb back into the game even at 17-0 (which is reasonable, but not relevant). Kevin then reinforced that he wasn't asking due to game conditions or score, but just fundamentally that the passing game was working and the running game (minus the very first play) was not. Zorn then seemed to pretty much say that he didn't want to abandon the passing game and panic.

    I don't know...part of me is concerned that we have another coach who is going to try to force "balance" even if balance isn't working. I realize that the Patriots have more talent than anyone...but they should be an example of a team that just does what works and succeeds.
    "Washington strolled to the NFC championship, outscoring their two playoff opponents by a combined total of 48 points. Their domination was more than impressive, it was historic. The 1991 Redskins boasted the largest average margin of victory among all Super Bowl champions."

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    First off...I agree with everything above. Not only do I think we need to spread the offense out more, I believe a hurry up, with play calling at the line keeps the defense unbalanced. All the offensive juggernauts in the league do it (Indy, New Orleans, New England, Arizona,etc.). I thought last week would have been the ideal time to try something like this. The thought reminded me of what Miami did to NE early in the season last year. Not once in preseason did Miami display their new "Wildcat" offense, then against a division rival who knew all the in's and out's of their system, they threw them for a major loop. This "hurry up" can still be run in a WCO mentality however it would be speeded up and would keep the Defensive Coordinators from getting the appropriate personnel on the field and it would also wear out the opponents defense. Its time for something new and invigorating. This only became more evident in watching what the Giants did to us underneath our coverage and what the Pats did to Buffalo. They took what the defense game them, which moves the chains. Just my opinions, but when I can predict 75% of the plays the Skins are calling then I'm sure the real def coord are closer to the 90-100% level. Peace out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG_JAB View Post
    Just my opinions, but when I can predict 75% of the plays the Skins are calling then I'm sure the real def coord are closer to the 90-100% level. Peace out.
    seriously, its baffling sitting in your living room predicting the play calls as they happen. If we as fans can do it, who the hell does Zorn think he's fooling out there?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TD_washingtonredskins View Post
    He was asked on the radio yesterday about passing more (not exactly your idea, but along the same lines). Kevin Sheehan (sp?) asked why we didn't pass more since we had much more success through the air.

    Zorn originally answered that he didn't want to panic since we had time to climb back into the game even at 17-0 (which is reasonable, but not relevant). Kevin then reinforced that he wasn't asking due to game conditions or score, but just fundamentally that the passing game was working and the running game (minus the very first play) was not. Zorn then seemed to pretty much say that he didn't want to abandon the passing game and panic.

    I don't know...part of me is concerned that we have another coach who is going to try to force "balance" even if balance isn't working. I realize that the Patriots have more talent than anyone...but they should be an example of a team that just does what works and succeeds.
    From reading that, I get the impression that Zorn simply doesn't know what the **** he is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman5607 View Post
    From reading that, I get the impression that Zorn simply doesn't know what the **** he is doing.
    yea, yesterday i was hoping he would get a hint and do something different this week but after reading his comments i don't have much faith we will see anything different sunday.

    which means we should expect to see a grind it out game that comes down to the last minutes against a ****ty team


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinz4Life12 View Post
    yea, yesterday i was hoping he would get a hint and do something different this week but after reading his comments i don't have much faith we will see anything different sunday.

    which means we should expect to see a grind it out game that comes down to the last minutes against a ****ty team
    As long as it's a win, I really don't care how. Just win....please. Is that asking too much, Zorn? I know you can do it, dammit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinz4Life12 View Post
    yea, yesterday i was hoping he would get a hint and do something different this week but after reading his comments i don't have much faith we will see anything different sunday.

    which means we should expect to see a grind it out game that comes down to the last minutes against a ****ty team
    I hope I portrayed his comments correctly...but that is certainly how I remember him answering the questions.

    It was only Tuesday though, maybe he will look at the film and realize we had our way with the passing game.

    Edit: Another thread on this interview:

    http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=299317
    Last edited by TD_washingtonredskins; September-16th-2009 at 09:35 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TD_washingtonredskins View Post
    I hope I portrayed his comments correctly...but that is certainly how I remember him answering the questions.

    It was only Tuesday though, maybe he will look at the film and realize we had our way with the passing game.
    One can hope so. I actually thought the passing game was working really well, too, but I didn't want to say it on here because, well, you know. Lol.

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