QBs Shanahan Drafted in Denver (informational)

[Truant]

Whether it be in the first or seventh it seems likely that Shanahan will draft a QB this April. I was curious to see who Shanahan has drafted to see if there are any trends we can pick out.

Brian Griese (1998- Round 3)

Jarious Jackson (2000- Round 7)

Matt Mauck (2004- Round 7)

Bradlee Van Pelt (2004- Round 7)

Jay Culter (2006- Round 1)


Brian Griese:
He was not even considered a prospect entering his senior year, but his production and leadership was so solid in 1997 that he has emerged as a legitimate NFL candidate. He has had an up and down career for the Wolverines, playing a lot in 1995 and then sitting on the bench for most of the 1996 season. However, he had a breakout year in 1997 in Michigan's conservative offense. He has a great football history and tremendous knowledge of the game, which would be expected from having a dad like former NFL great Bob Greise. He has great intangibles and understands the game and knows how to move the offense. He has adequate arm strength, but knows how to get the ball to his receivers and he can look off to secondary receivers and can find the open man. He is very cool under pressure and has played well in big games. He is a good ball handler and he can make adjustments at the LOS. He is not a real gifted athlete and he does not have great velocity on his throws, but he seems to move around okay in the pocket and get the job done. He is not what NFL teams are looking for physically, but he is so efficient and smart that he may very well make an NFL team as a backup. If he continues to develop, he is a guy that teams would feel very comfortable about in a backup role. He may never develop into a starter, but there are a lot of things to like about this guy.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ayers/176.html

Jarious Jackson
A short, but well-built athlete. Strong runner. Tough. Will stand in under pressure and take a hit. Holds the ball a little low. Needs to do a better job of setting his feet. Has an over the top delivery and a strong arm. Somewhat deliberate. Confident but will throw into coverage. Lacks good overall accuracy. Has touch awareness but puts too much air under some throws. Shows the ability to throw the deep ball. Could project to running back because of his run skills, but lacks classic running back speed. A good "tools" prospect who needs a lot of refinement.
http://images.si.com/football/nfl/20...ers/15331.html

Matt Mauck
Tough, smart quarterback with solid athletic skills. Quickly sets in the pocket, sells the ball fakes and throws with a nice delivery. Elusive, gets outside the pocket making plays on the move or picks up yardage with his legs. Puts zip on intermediate passes, throws tight spirals and has good arm strength. Sells the ball fakes, stands strong in the pocket and patient.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ers/31966.html

Bradlee Van Pelt
Tough signal-caller that must iron out the rough edges to his game. Quickly sets in the pocket with solid footwork, remains poised and shows good judgment. Drives the deep pass downfield, laying the ball out in front of receivers and letting them run to the pass. Escapes the rush and makes the throw on the move. Tough and has a linebacker's mentality, especially carrying the ball. Improved in all aspects of his game late in his senior season.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ers/29895.html

Jay Cutler
Athletic prospect with the physical and mental skills necessary to start at the next level. Patient, stands strong in the pocket and immediately finds the open wideout. Displays a sense of timing, throws strikes and hits receivers in stride. Has a quick release and passes immediately to get to the intended target. Poised under pressure, can elude the rush and gets rid of the ball rather than taking a bad sack. Sells the ball fakes, accurate throwing on the move and displays toughness in all aspects of the game. Not afraid to challenge the vertical game and gets the ball through the tight spots.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ayers/815.html


I don't think we'll get many answers from this, just thought it'd be interesting. It seems like a QB like Trent Green (young version) would have been perfect for Shanahan. Athleticism seems to be a common trend. Mobile enough to move in the pocket and execute roll outs. Good enough arm, but not amazing. Willing to stand in the pocket and deliver to the open man. Pretty accurate.

Other than Cutler Shanahan didn't seem too interested in drafting QBs high. In fact, Jake Plummer had a very solid 2005 season (over 90 QB rating, 18 TDs to only 7 INTs) and that's when Shanman pulled the trigger on a highly touted QB. Clearly Shanahan fell in love with Cutler. In 2004 Shanny was definitely open to taking a flier or two, by taking two QBs in the 7th round. It'll be interested to see if/when Shan pulls the trigger, but I thought some people might find this interesting.

Does this change or strengthen anyone's thoughts about April?

Hail.

[holmester]

Great post truant. Seems like Shanahan desires intelligence, poise, and accuracy in the pocket as well as on the move.

[LaRonDontLikeUgly]

Mobility is key for Shanny's QBs. I remember watching an entire ESPN segment back in the day that dissected Elway and the "QB Sprint right option play"

For those who aren't familiar, it was basically:

"Hike" --> QBs sprints laterally 7-10 yards ---> tries to find one of his crossing WRs (preferably the one who is furthest downfield).

(Gibbs used it with Theismann quite often.)

[Redskins4ever]

You have to have the right QB in order for him to run a west coast offense. Shanahan, in a draft pick, looks for a kid who can see the defense, read the defense, make the right audible if need be, and deliver the ball with precision and high accuracy. Instead of drafting a QB in the first round, Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan may decide to look for the same strenghs and qualities in a prospect who is graded to be drafted in the second or third rounds or maybe even the later rounds. You can draft a quality QB in the later rounds and he might end up being a star(Tom Brady).

[Soup]

I don't really mind the redskins picking up a QB, the issue I have is, will they allow the guy to develop in one System. I don't want get a QB and just make him learn a new offense every year.

[Jeff in D.C.]

Great post truant. Seems like Shanahan desires intelligence, poise, and accuracy in the pocket as well as on the move.

Too bad for JC he only has one of those three.

[hitmandm]

good info. I still think Shanny gets that he won the SB with a strong armed QB and when he had the chance to get another in the first round he did. If there is a franchise QB at pick 4, I think Shanny grabs him.

[zskins]

Seems like Shanahan desires intelligence, poise, and accuracy in the pocket as well as on the move.

Colt.

You have to have the right QB in order for him to run a west coast offense. Shanahan, in a draft pick, looks for a kid who can see the defense, read the defense, make the right audible if need be, and deliver the ball with precision and high accuracy. Instead of drafting a QB in the first round, Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan may decide to look for the same strenghs and qualities in a prospect who is graded to be drafted in the second or third rounds or maybe even the later rounds. You can draft a quality QB in the later rounds and he might end up being a star(Tom Brady).

Colt.

This is why I still think he won't take a QB in the first round. Too much bust risk. If he is smart he will take an OT and let someone like maybe Colt fight for the starting position.

[corrupt3d]

Colt.



Colt.

This is why I still think he won't take a QB in the first round. Too much bust risk. If he is smart he will take an OT and let someone like maybe Colt fight for the starting position.

I saw the term "QB" in the title, saw that you posted and knew exactly what your post would be about.



That said, thanks for the informative post OP, but I dont think any conclusions can be drawn. None of them, aside from Cutler, worked out for Shanahan.

[Jeff in D.C.]

Originally Posted by holmester
Seems like Shanahan desires intelligence, poise, and accuracy in the pocket as well as on the move.

Originally Posted by Redskins4ever
You have to have the right QB in order for him to run a west coast offense. Shanahan, in a draft pick, looks for a kid who can see the defense, read the defense, make the right audible if need be, and deliver the ball with precision and high accuracy. Instead of drafting a QB in the first round, Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan may decide to look for the same strenghs and qualities in a prospect who is graded to be drafted in the second or third rounds or maybe even the later rounds. You can draft a quality QB in the later rounds and he might end up being a star(Tom Brady).

Colt.

Originally Posted by Redskins4ever
You have to have the right QB in order for him to run a west coast offense. Shanahan, in a draft pick, looks for a kid who can see the defense, read the defense, make the right audible if need be, and deliver the ball with precision and high accuracy. Instead of drafting a QB in the first round, Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan may decide to look for the same strenghs and qualities in a prospect who is graded to be drafted in the second or third rounds or maybe even the later rounds. You can draft a quality QB in the later rounds and he might end up being a star(Tom Brady).

Colt.

This is why I still think he won't take a QB in the first round. Too much bust risk. If he is smart he will take an OT and let someone like maybe Colt fight for the starting position.

Since when has Colt exhibited the above qualities? Don't get me wrong, I'm willing to see what Shanny can do with him, but Tom Brady he isn't.

[zskins]

I saw the term "QB" in the title, saw that you posted and knew exactly what your post would be about.

I saw your name and knew right away you would find kind word for my post.

I guess I shouldn't post in any threads that talk about QBs. I think you should do the same.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Colt could definitely turn into a fine QB to back up Jimmy Clausen.

[zskins]

[SIZE=1]

Since when has Colt exhibited the above qualities? Don't get me wrong, I'm willing to see what Shanny can do with him, but Tom Brady he isn't.

And since when did you, or anyone for that matter, decided that Colt can't be equal or better then Tom. If you keep your mind open then you should say that everyone can be a Tom or a Peyton or a Brees.

When that QB proves that they can't then the case is closed until the jury is still out. I won't pass judgment on whether Colt can or can't be. I hope he can because that would mean only one thing: It is a good day at Redskins park.

[zskins]

Colt could definitely turn into a fine QB to back up Jimmy Clausen.

What a waste of a pick to backup a QB who is 10% less accurate then Colt and had 70 less TD and 6048 less yards. These stats are for 3 years of their college life. One more stat for you: Colt also had a rating of 167.1% compared to Jimmy at 132.6%.

If Colt was selected in the first round he be your Jimmy right now.

[JSheets]

Whether it be in the first or seventh it seems likely that Shanahan will draft a QB this April. I was curious to see who Shanahan has drafted to see if there are any trends we can pick out.

Thanks for doing the research.

I have faith that the Shannies will identify and develop the QB that will make the best fit in their system.

I can't wait for the draft. The wait is killing me... It's time to inflict pain on the NFC East jabronies.