Rivals.com: Tim Tebow not looking good in Senior Bowl practice

[Larry]

Reminds me of what everyone said about Vince Young.

Actually, one of the experts I heard last night talking about him compared him to Steve Young, who they also said many people were talking about moving to TE or S.

[The Tris]

Reminds me of what everyone said about Vince Young.

When searching for old pre-draft profiles of VY's pro's and cons, found this article from last August on walterfootball entitled "The Vince Young Lesson". Thought it was great:

http://walterfootball.com/mattblog090810.php

What do you really call VY at this point?

[Spartacus87]

Reminds me of what everyone said about Vince Young.

Vince Young is more athletic than Tebow, so his scrambling could translate to the NFL somewhat, and more importantly, he has a much quicker release than Tebow.

[Hitman21ST]

Does this even belong in the Stadium? Should be around the NFL as it has nothing to do with the Redskins (seeing that we won't draft him).

[Chopper Dave]

First off, it's one day. He's had precisely one day to pick up a pro offense, competing for the coaches' attention with two other QBs. He looks fairly sharp so far today, especially on those two deep balls to McCluster and the other guy from Ole Miss, albeit in VERY limited time so far (it's early on in the practice, though).

Also, the thing with Tebow is, if he has a great game, it'll mean he went from sucking on day 1 to, well, having a great game. That'll probably mean someone will take him in the 1st, because it'll show that he can pick up an offense quickly. However, even if he doesn't have a good game, or a good week at all, his athleticism, leadership, and versatility will keep him in the first 3 rounds. He has a really high floor as far as draft position goes.

[STBonecrusher21]

He's looking pretty good today.

Again these are just drills, but accuracy has been spot on so far.

[The Tris]

Vince Young is more athletic than Tebow, so his scrambling could translate to the NFL somewhat, and more importantly, he has a much quicker release than Tebow.

Correct...the throwing motion comparison are due to the sidearming, not the huge, makes-jc-look-like-he-has-a-quick-release windup of Tebow. That is the big problem with the throwing motion.

But if drafted, he would almost immediately lead the league in heart. So he's got that going for him.

[The Tris]

He's looking pretty good today.

Again these are just drills, but accuracy has been spot on so far.

Actually that was an issue too from what I am reading:

"Tebow also had some issues with his accuracy, missing a lot of throws badly. As was the case in college Tebow failed to throw a tight spiral on a consistent basis as well. Now for some positives. Tebow's footwork as he dropped back was much better than I expected it to be and he also showed pretty good touch on his deep throws. We also got a glimpse of those renowned Tebow intangibles as he really took coaching well and was quite vocal in encouraging his teammates. However, all in all it was a very tough day for Tebow and he appears to be every bit of the project most thought he was. On the bright side things can only get better"

That was from yesterday's practice.

[redskins55]

This will be the most scrutinized kid to ever come out of college. I mean come on its his first day and people are saying he doesn't look good because he fumbled a snap under center and had so called "bad mechanics" when throwing some balls. I praise him for even going to the senior bowl cause he didnt need to. Most top players avoid that livestock show because they want to impress scouts at the combine. Clausen, Bradford, McCoy, all not playing. Give the guy a chance to adjust before you label him folks.

[Chopper Dave]

He's looking pretty good today.

Again these are just drills, but accuracy has been spot on so far.

He's a good quarterback, man. You don't have the success he's had throwing the ball in the SEC by sucking, that's what most people don't seem to realize. Yeah, he's got alot to learn, and alot that needs to be fixed, but he's smart enough and committed enough to learn and fix those things.

I'll admit, I'm a homer, and I'm always going to view Tebow in the brightest light. However, as a huge Tebow fan, I can still view the situation realistically. Anybody that thinks he's going to jump right into the QB position in the NFL and succeed is dead wrong. By that token, though, anyone that writes him off as completely unable to succeed in the NFL as a QB is dead wrong, too.

[JaimeDeCurry]

He's a good SPREAD quarterback, man.

Fixed that for you

He spent his entire college career in a system that might as well have been tailor-made just to fit his strengths and mask or eliminate his weaknesses. That won't work in the NFL.

He'll have to learn to have good accuracy on intermediate routes, throw quickly, make pre-snap reads, play-action from under center and then reacquire the defense and make a play...all things he's never done before. ESPN tried to get a scout to make a call on him and they said probably a 5th rounder.

He's just not set up to have success in the NFL.

[bird_1972]

He's a good quarterback, man. You don't have the success he's had throwing the ball in the SEC by sucking, that's what most people don't seem to realize.

JC played in the SEC as well.

That said, I hope he does well and if he can improve some things, I think he has all of the other intangibles to succeed.

[Chopper Dave]

Fixed that for you

He spent his entire college career in a system that might as well have been tailor-made just to fit his strengths and mask or eliminate his weaknesses. That won't work in the NFL.

He'll have to learn to have good accuracy on intermediate routes, throw quickly, make pre-snap reads, play-action from under center and then reacquire the defense and make a play...all things he's never done before. ESPN tried to get a scout to make a call on him and they said probably a 5th rounder.

He's just not set up to have success in the NFL.

You contradict yourself in your second sentence. That can work in the NFL, and it has. Look at Drew Brees. People adjust. You're insane if you think he CAN'T succeed. You're insane if you're not 50/50 on the prospect of him at QB before he gets selected by somebody, because very honestly, his chances for success at QB depend pretty much entirely on where he goes. He's got the physical tools, he's got the intangibles, and he's got the willingness to conform and change what he needs to conform and change. He just needs the right coaching and the right system. Jacksonville, which is probably the only team that would take him in the 1st, is a surprisingly good fit. Philly is probably the best fit. Here would be a terrible fit. So would Seattle and Minnesota. It just depends where he goes.

[JaimeDeCurry]

You contradict yourself in your second sentence. That can work in the NFL, and it has. Look at Drew Brees.

Brees has amazing vision, a very quick release, and throws one of the prettiest passes in football. Tebow has none of these.

And comparing the spread offense that Drew Brees played in to the spread-option that Tebow played in is inadvisable.

[Chopper Dave]

JC played in the SEC as well.

That said, I hope he does well and if he can improve some things, I think he has all of the other intangibles to succeed.

And JC doesn't suck, in the scheme of things. It's not like there's a fine line between sucking and Peyton Manning.