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    Default Hypothesis: The "uncapped" year actually DISADVANTAGES the Skins and Snyder?

    I wanted to float a hypothesis that had occurred to me and to see how you guys felt, and to see if it might actually be borne out by what has started to happen in free agency?

    Here goes: The conventional wisdom is that in an uncapped year, the Skins would be able to act like kids in a candy store, able to gobble up whatever "goodies" struck their fancy in terms of coveted, high-profile free agents. The assumption was that (for better or worse) the excesses of the Snyder approach would reach a frenzied new height. If we thought the year of Deion, Bruce Smith, and Jeff George (ten years ago?) was bad, wait till this year, so the common wisdom thought. Julius Peppers? Sign him up. Karlos Dansby? A done deal. Chad Clifton. Good as ours. The oft repeated refrain is that "Nobody outbids Snyder."

    But what if the fact of the matter is that the lack of a cap actually puts Dan Snyder at a comparative disadvantage? Why? My thinking is that Dan's advantage in the capped years came from his uncanny ability to make SEEMINGLY outrageous, so-called "blockbuster" deals that would supposedly lead inevitably to "cap hell" and to then find through very creative restructuring, and perhaps some magical accounting, ways to make those seemingly impossible deals work. In other words, we had mastered the art of "cap accounting and management" to such an extent that we were probably better than any other team at offering seemingly jawdropping deals (that made us admittedly the laughingstock of many league observer) in which we did in fact "overpay" but ended up never really having to absorb the full cap hit in a way that would totally destroy us.

    Now, we might very well have "overpaid" in terms of talent, i.e, we might have overrated the player in question. But the point is that we had a knack for being able to do deals that would appear to be prohibitively expensive for other teams but somehow always managed to be doable for us. We "won out" (if that's the right word) vis-a-vis other teams because we were seemingly willing and able to wreck our salary cap for future years in ways that other teams wouldn't dare to do.

    But now that we might be facing an uncapped year, here are two points to consider: 1) Whatever money we can offer, at least in theory ANY other team also could, and the important point is THE SALARY CAP IS NO LONGER A FACTOR IN THE EQUATION. In other words, maybe Dan's pockets aren't as deep as we might always have assumed? Who's to say that, in this uncapped year, another team might not in fact go toe-to-toe with the Dan, and even win? Previously, the need for "prudent" salary-cap management was a limitation that other teams heeded (but we seemingly didn't), but now, the salary cap limits NO ONE.

    2) From a players' perspective, in the previous salary-cap era, a player would often have to "choose" between going to a team that was willing to "bust" its cap, i.e., overpay, even if that team was not as competitive (performance wise) as other teams, i.e, a lower-echelon team trying to get into the NFL elite, and a more prudent team that couldn't offer as much money but could perhaps offer other things such as a better shot at a Super Bowl ring. Now, with this uncapped year, it seems that a highly coveted free agent would be in the driver's seat in this sense: he could actually expect to go to a winning team, one that really might be just a piece away from a championship, as opposed to a rebuilding team, and still expect to collect that massive payday. In other words, he can now have the best of both worlds: it's no longer a stark choice between get paid OR go to a championship caliber team. In theory, there's no reason that the "rich" can't get richer. A team like New Orleans that just won the Super Bowl is as free as we are to spend the same on any player they covet, and if a player has to choose between $100M and joining the SB winners and $100M and joining the team that just finished last in the NFC and doesn't yet have an offense, which way do you think that player would decide? Thus, even if Dan's pockets are as deep as we think they are, it's tempered by the fact that players might have some more leverage to get themselves onto a team that's already near the top, rather than one with a lot of questions to be answered.

    Your thoughts?

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    Default Re: Hypothesis: The "uncapped" year actually DISADVANTAGES the Skins and Snyder?

    I think you bring up a couple of good points.

    But I wouldn't worry about it. Snyder placed no financial restrictions on free agent bidding, or so the story goes.

    And Bruce Allen has a proven track record of managing the cap very well. I think we will still end up spending a bit, but its going to be tempered with Allen making the calls and in the end, it will help us tremendously.

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    My hypothisis is simple. There's a new way of doing things with Bruce Allen and Shanahan in control, which would exist whether there was a cap in place or not. If the Redskins wanted to spend money on the Peppers and Dansbys they would have.

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    Default Re: Hypothesis: The "uncapped" year actually DISADVANTAGES the Skins and Snyder?

    You might be right if you are looking at this season only but we all know it's very likely that cap us coming back soon or later.

    What this one year with no cap is godsend because it allows shanahan and Allen get the house in order in terms of cap. As we sign younger and/or cheaper alternatives, we can cut and get rid of some of our players that are most likely to under perform their contracts ie Randel el and Randy Thomas. This is what we needed to have a true new start for the organization.

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    The uncapped year works great for us, because we have a lot of high priced dead weight to cut. This year, we do that and in a heavy draft, move some players for picks if possible and load up there. Next season, will be a much better FA period and we will be in a much better place for that.
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    I look at the uncapped year as a chance for the market to correct itself.
    Much like the North American economy, the NFL can not continue to make it rain every year. Owners/ GM's look at this as a great way to clean up past mistakes.

    Clearly the first order of business for the Redskins has been to cut 10 players. Looking at the roster, I agree whole heartedly that the people who were released were expendable.

    While we could go out and get a Peppers or a Dansby, for what we would pay with no cap, it would only help us for 1 year. The cap is going to come back, and then we would have to go back to restructuring contracts to keep those players. I think we have already seen what happens with that approach.

    I find using the Saints as an example a little off base. First, they are under the "final eight" rule of the uncapped year. They cant make a big FA splash. Also, they just won a SB. Would they not be spending more energy keeping their current roster intact, as opposed to bringing in a big name FA? Now that their players have a SB on their respective resumes, they are going to be spending more to keep them.

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    I think the uncapped year is disadvantageous for different reasons. The team made the most profit last year by leaps and bounds so I don't think most teams could outbid us.

    The problem with the uncapped year is that most talent worth big contracts are restricted and can't be bough outright without giving up high draft picks.

    Also it's the fear of the unkown. We could sign players at crazy prices but it could end up handicapping us in the future when they go back to the cap and the players we signed are still on the team with the fat contracts. The 30% rule doesn't allow the majority of the money to be given in the uncapped year.



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    Default Re: Hypothesis: The "uncapped" year actually DISADVANTAGES the Skins and Snyder?

    There have been growing rumors in dc circles that suggest Danny is actually not doing well financially. Remember he just forked over a lot of money for Shanny and Allan so he may not be willing to spend so much on players right now.

    The interesting thing is the other big pocket owners are also not spending that much, like they planned this. I can't wait to see how this all plays out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolblue13 View Post
    The uncapped year works great for us, because we have a lot of high priced dead weight to cut. This year, we do that and in a heavy draft, move some players for picks if possible and load up there. Next season, will be a much better FA period and we will be in a much better place for that.
    Pretty much this. Barring a lockout, next year will probably be the deepest free agency period EVER with all the restricted free agents of this year becoming unrestricted along with those who are also meeting the necessary requirements for tenure in the NFL at the end of next season.

    I truly believe B.A. when he says we have a long-term plan and by clearing up wasted cap space with these cuts and signing smart short-term cheap value players this off-season. We come into a situation with a healthy cap situation coupled with the deep pockets of Snyder and B.A.'s savvy with personnel contracts.

    All those of you disappointed with the lack of activity this season, just wait till next year. I just hope that what we do go after next year makes sense rather than just makes the news. However, I think with we'll be in pretty good shape with this new F.O. running things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh8686 View Post
    All those of you disappointed with the lack of activity this season, just wait till next year. I just hope that what we do go after next year makes sense rather than just makes the news. However, I think with we'll be in pretty good shape with this new F.O. running things.
    I think we'll be very active next season, when it's going to a better time to do it.

    Nobody is trying to save their job this season and we know everybody will be around for a while, so we cut the fat, patch some holes and draft whoever we want for the long haul. It will be much clearer for us next season, where our holes will be and what our true needs will be under our new schemes.
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    Why should we worry about an uncapped year when we have nothing to worry about in a capped year. Danny is a genous when it comes to contracts and working around the cap, the man deserves a champion after all the passion, money and hard work he has put into this team. I pray Shanny will be the first man to bring that trophy to him and this organization.

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    Default Re: Hypothesis: The "uncapped" year actually DISADVANTAGES the Skins and Snyder?

    The uncapped year is a double edged sword; it allowed this team to purge older players with huge contracts and not have to pay for it via the cap. However, it also locked up most of the young, talented free agents as RFA's that the Skins would normally have spent money on this offseason.

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    Default Re: Hypothesis: The "uncapped" year actually DISADVANTAGES the Skins and Snyder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldskool View Post
    The uncapped year is a double edged sword; it allowed this team to purge older players with huge contracts and not have to pay for it via the cap. However, it also locked up most of the young, talented free agents as RFA's that the Skins would normally have spent money on this offseason.
    A really great point. And perhaps an offshoot of my basic point that OTHER teams would have certain financial flexibility this year they wouldn't have had otherwise, so comparatively speaking, that's not great when we like to think of the Skins as the only ones with real financial muscle.

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    That's okay.

    I will actually be okay if, with a solid core of draft picks and youth in place, we spend big in 2011 to fill various needs. For example, we may still need to upgrade on the line even if it turns out solid this year. We may want to shell out for a WR. Maybe we want to put a rush OLB on the other side of Rak, or spend money to bring in a big-time CB. I'm not 100% opposed to SMART spending. I think that FA signings combined with developed talent is the right way to go, and I think we will see that from here on out.

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    Default Re: Hypothesis: The "uncapped" year actually DISADVANTAGES the Skins and Snyder?

    There weren't any real desirable FA that the Skins targeted.

    They actually dumped several contracts to make space if the cap returns in 2011.

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