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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    I'm not much of a McCoy fan- but yah, that's the gist.

    The point is, I don't know who is going to be better in the pros. Nobody does. Take them both and find out.

    (or another qb like Tebow or Pike, etc.)

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    Even if your writing this season off wasting our 2 top picks would set us back much further than just next year. Thats a risk you are willing to take? I have settled back with a QB in the 2nd round and LT prospect with #4 but gambling on both would be insane.

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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan View Post
    It is an interesting approach. Hell the Redskins did in 1994 with Shuler and Frerrote, and by all measures Gus was the more effective QB then Heath (Gus still plays, Heath is about to lose an election in December)

    I think you need to take 1 every year. A year like this year for the Redskins it would be wise to take 2
    agreed- I've said for years now- if I were a GM I'd take a QB every single year in the draft, matt Millen (wr) style

    Fans would hate me until I stumbled upon "the guy"... then I would be hailed as the smartest GM in football.

    I call it the Bill Belicheck effect. Goes from goat to Genius when he gets his guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TK View Post
    Ok. [I]Now[/] I get your love affair with Gruden over Shanny.
    yup

    That's one of my complaints with Shanny. He has an ego-driven approach to the QB position. He is of the opinion that he can polish a turd. Plummer, Griese, etc.

    And to some extent he can. Plummer and Griese were at their best under Shanahan- but it wasn't enough.

    I fear he will bring that attitude into this draft (though he did draft Cutler- so that is promising)

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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    agreed- I've said for years now- if I were a GM I'd take a QB every single year in the draft, matt Millen (wr) style

    Fans would hate me until I stumbled upon "the guy"... then I would be hailed as the smartest GM in football.

    I call it the Bill Belicheck effect. Goes from goat to Genius when he gets his guy.

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    lol, i can see your discussion with your head coach.

    "why did you draft 7 QBs again"

    "were gonna have the greatest QB competition youve ever seen"

    "what if they all suck?"

    "SHUT UP!"

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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    I don't disagree with you in theory, zoony... but I don't think this is the year to try that out. If this is going to be a multiple year rebuilding process I'd prefer to see our offensive line and running game addressed first and foremost in preparation of the guy(s) we bring in to play QB. Right now we just don't have the picks to address that part of the offense and do what you're suggesting. We could still very well do that and bring in ONE new QB this year and bring in more down the road, though.
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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    Hedging your bets then. "I'll take Red this time." Or something like that. Interesting approach.

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    I understand the thought process. Gruden used that line of thinking in his years with the bucs not necessarily in the draft, but in amassing a throng of QBs to hedge risk.

    My problem is that especially in the draft you are looking at several guys that could be busts. Drafting two of them could mean one will be good, two will be good, or two will be bad. If the latter is true than not only will we have have two sizable contracts if we go by your theory of a QB in first and second, but we would have passed on two opportunites to improve the many other holes we have on this team. Namely the O-Line.

    I also don't buy into the next season being a complete wash. This is the NFL. Shanahan will take his best men out there every Sunday and try to win games. I think teams get stuck in the mindset of rebuilding and they end up suffering for it. I want the Redskins to go into everygame hungry for a W.

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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    If you use most of your picks on QBs, how do you fill the rest of the spots the team needs? Or are we talking a 3-5yr plan of rebuilding? Wouldn't it be better to build the team first than go wild on QBs so that there is a modem of protection for them and shell-shock is reduced?

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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Lloyd Christmas View Post
    lol, i can see your discussion with your head coach.

    "why did you draft 7 QBs again"

    "were gonna have the greatest QB competition youve ever seen"

    "what if they all suck?"

    "SHUT UP!"
    for clarification- I said I would take 1 qb in each draft, not a qb with ever pick

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    I was thinking about something similar to this on my commute home last Friday, only not just about the QB position. It was more draft philosophy in general. What would happen if a team focused on one position or position group in each draft?

    Like one year, take nothing but lineman. The next year, take nothing but secondary. The next year, take nothing but WRs and TEs. Next year, take nothing but RBs and LBs. And so on. Then on the year you take multiple QBs, you also take more lineman.

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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    yup

    That's one of my complaints with Shanny. He has an ego-driven approach to the QB position. He is of the opinion that he can polish a turd. Plummer, Griese, etc.

    And to some extent he can. Plummer and Griese were at their best under Shanahan- but it wasn't enough.

    I fear he will bring that attitude into this draft (though he did draft Cutler- so that is promising)
    I thought Shanny's arrogance really came from not properly addressing the defense. Thinking that the offense was good enough to go all the way, while the D was as soft as toilet paper.

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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    for clarification- I said I would take 1 qb in each draft, not a qb with ever pick

    lol, i misread that. thats my bad.

    that would be hilarious, drafting 7 QBs in one draft. the ultimate gamble.

    but im not opposed to taking QBs every year, so long as were still looking for one and its not high picks all the time.

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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    for clarification- I said I would take 1 qb in each draft, not a qb with ever pick
    Sounds good, but what happens when you find your franchise QB, do we continue to draft QBs, or take a couple yr hiatus?
    Last edited by HawaiianTime; March-22nd-2010 at 11:47 AM.

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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Lloyd Christmas View Post
    lol, i can see your discussion with your head coach.

    "why did you draft 7 QBs again"

    "were gonna have the greatest QB competition youve ever seen"

    "what if they all suck?"

    "SHUT UP!"
    sounds like Matt Millen doesn't it?

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    Default Re: We don't need A QB in this draft- we need 3 or 4 QB's

    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    for clarification- I said I would take 1 qb in each draft, not a qb with ever pick
    Good thing I scrolled down further...

    I think most teams take at least one QB probably 3-4 out of every five drafts, anyway. You don't hear about the vast majority of them.

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