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    Default NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    Wes Bunting's opinion seems to be the consensus among most draft nicks, though he's probably exaggerating slightly by calling it a 'big mistake'. I don't agree with those that think Trent represents the sky falling, and that he'd be a bust. At worst, he's not as good as Okung, but still a solid player. He's the better zone blocker, and the more versatile of the two, but having watched both play... I have to be honest with myself in saying he's simply not as good as Okung 1 v 1 vs. the pass rush. He's also not as consistent down-in and down-out as Okung was. His ceiling seems to be higher though, and if he works at it, can be a Pro Bowl player.

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    There’s just no way I can be sold on the idea that Trent Williams is the best offensive tackle in the draft, and I believe the ‘Skins made a big mistake passing on Russell Okung. I get the fact that Williams made more sense for Washington because he has a little more range in space, making him a better fit for its zone blocking scheme. However, I thought there was a clear advantage in favor of Okung in pass protection, which is why I ultimately saw him as the better future NFL player. Williams does have the range out of his stance to reach speed off the edge, but my biggest concern is his struggle to cleanly redirect on any kind of counter move. Every time I watched tape of him, he struggled to keep his base down and maintain a proper pad level when trying to quickly change directions, resulting in penetration on any kind of hard counter move back inside. Now, do I think he’s a capable NFL tackle? Yes, but I still believe he’s better suited for the right side and is simply not the same caliber prospect as Okung.
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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    I thought Okung was a no brainer, but that's me in front of a plasma. I just have to hope they were right.
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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    Getting to the next level ie the line backers and the back side block were two attributes the skins think that williams has over okung. The ZBS covets more nimble swifter personnel than we are probably use too in our linemen. Given the speed rushers and fast linebakers we have in our division speed, agility and maneuverability take precedence over brute force. Running under a 5.0 40 for a 300+ lb man is pretty remarkable. His strength will be vastly increased IMO. It has to. Time will tell.

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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    many of the skills that he "lacks" IE Strenght and form can be taught and improved. sure you would like to have a "finished" product at the #4 overall pick, but the sky is not falling like some say it is

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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by aREDSKIN View Post
    Getting to the next level ie the line backers and the back side block were two attributes the skins think that williams has over okung.
    That's exactly why we took him over Okung, I 100% trust Shanny's decisions when it comes to his O-line and running game. He knows who he needs and who he doesn't, and as good as Okung is, Williams is the man who fits our new system. I don't think anyone will be complaining after we lead the league in rushing this season, or be in the top 5 at the least. I hope to God defenses are dumb enough to stack the line and disrespect our passing game like they did last season, because they will get their azz torched this year.
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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    I haven't watched tons of tape on each player, but the highlight vids I've seen it's clear that Okung is the more polished, pro-ready player with terms of technique. That said Williams does seem to be more rangy and the better athlete, but he'll need to be coached up to maximize his potential. He may end up not being the prototypical LT. Was he worth the 4th pick in the 1st round? Only time will tell.

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    All these negative articles should serve Williams well in his motivation to excell at this level. I hope he is reading this and steam is coming from his ears and nose. Dig in, work hard and prove them all wrong.
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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsGuru View Post

    Originally Posted By Some Random Draftnik
    I get the fact that Williams made more sense for Washington because he has a little more range in space, making him a better fit for its zone blocking scheme.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...s_html-2010427
    I stopped reading after I read that. So we made a pick that was a better fit for our team, yet we made a "big mistake"? Sure thing, slugger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Probos View Post
    He may end up not being the prototypical LT.
    Or he may wind up being the best LT prospect in this draft. We don't know. All that we do know is that we took the guy that fits our scheme the best from an athletic/build/style of play stand point.
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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by dockeryfan View Post
    I thought Okung was a no brainer, but that's me in front of a plasma. I just have to hope they were right.
    Same here. I was a little confused when I heard we took Willams over Okung but Shanny knows more than I do so I hope he made the right decision.

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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    I stopped reading after I read that. So we made a pick that was a better fit for our team, yet we made a "big mistake"? Sure thing, slugger.
    Haha yeah pretty funny.....im personally not sold, as I think I would have rather taken Okung......but this guy basically kills his whole arguement with that statement.

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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by ST is my boy View Post
    im personally not sold, as I think I would have rather taken Okung......
    I'll bite... Just because I want to talk football...

    Why would you have rather taken Okung?
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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    has anyone compared these self proclaimed "gurus" mock drafts with the real draft? not so good. other then the top 3 picks which my 5 year nephew told me would happen.

    these douche bags know nothing!!!
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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    Okung is going to be a monumental disappointment. Williams is the better pick now and will be the better pick going forward.

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    Default Re: NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    I'll bite... Just because I want to talk football...

    Why would you have rather taken Okung?
    You know the other side to that argument is that Okung could easily have been over-rated and will fail. It is not like it has not happened before.

    I am just happy we took one of the two top OL prospects instead of reaching for a QB. If Shanny thinks Williams is his guy, then okay, but certainly much hinges for him on this pick. We have to assume he knows what he needed and wanted with the choice.

    He also had a history in Denver of smaller more atheletic lineman. So the choice should not shock anyone.
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