NFP: Williams over Okung a 'big mistake'

[Chump Bailey]

I agree with him. I would have taken Okung too.

[skinsfan4128]

The squat is probably a more predictive lift for the running game, where players try to explode from the hips and drive the other guy off the ball.

The bench does seem like the best measure for pass protection, were you are using your legs to try not to get outflanked, and using your arms to try to punch the guy back and impede his progress.

That being said, I don't think the bench press numbers mean much in this case, other than that Okung has clearly been the more diligent worker in the weight room. Trent Williams probably has the best punch in this year's class and is also the best run blocker. I don't think Williams has any functional strength deficit on the field.

I do think Okung is the safer pick, but if Shannahan liked Williams, and Alex Gibbs liked Williams, who am I to argue?

Good points. I think the hoopla surrounding the Okung vs. Williams debate is overblown. Fact is, we took the player that represents the best fit for the offensive scheme. Okung did not fit the scheme as well as Williams. Shanny has had tremedous success with his olines in the past, so I'm going to trust he knows what he's doing.

[redskins55]

Shanahan is tied to this puppy not us. So there really is no need for an entrenched debate. I liked Okung better and believe Okung will have a better career.. BUT when its all said and done its Shanahan's legacy that is riding on that draft pick, not ours. So hopefully he will prove doubters wrong.

[rookieskin]

I love that fact that TW has played other spots on the line and if he does not work out at LT, can slide over.

My only concern is that if he does not work out, who the heck are we going to plug in.

As of right now, who is ou best OLineman?

Derrick?
Artis?
The rookie?
Rabach?

I like that BMW was selected as Buffalo's 4th pick as well.

You will have 2 first round 4th picks working with something to prove!

[Rocky21]

What is NFPost.com and what makes their opinion better than this board's?

[jfr3ek]

i think its more to just pure talent than anything...ya, Okung may have been the more talented player out of the draft, but i think with a little coaching up, Williams will be a better football player due to the scheme and superior coaching. Good luck to Okung in Seattle. But Williams has the upper hand in my opinion.

[skinsfan4128]

I love that fact that TW has played other spots on the line and if he does not work out at LT, can slide over.

My only concern is that if he does not work out, who the heck are we going to plug in.

As of right now, who is ou best OLineman?

Derrick?
Artis?
The rookie?
Rabach?

I like that BMW was selected as Buffalo's 4th pick as well.

You will have 2 first round 4th picks working with something to prove!

Truth is, should TW not work out at LT, we can plug him in at RT. The only true concern Shanny would have then is who would man the LT position. My guess is that we haven't seen the last of the oline signings yet. Perhaps a team cuts a lineman soon, or maybe "hotel" adams is signed as insurance. Should be interesting.

[bird_1972]

Either way, who cares?

At the very least, he becomes our RT. We need that as well, so it's a win/win for us. I don't care, ultimately, if we took him with the #4 overall or not. If he sucks at LT, we will likely have another high draft pick next year anyways.

[pvkeeper19]

Either way, who cares?

At the very least, he becomes our RT. We need that as well, so it's a win/win for us. I don't care, ultimately, if we took him with the #4 overall or not. If he sucks at LT, we will likely have another high draft pick next year anyways.

I love that strategy! Get high draft picks next year by making bad picks this year! If we do it right, we can have the top pick EVERY YEAR!

[skinsfan4128]

i think its more to just pure talent than anything...ya, Okung may have been the more talented player out of the draft, but i think with a little coaching up, Williams will be a better football player due to the scheme and superior coaching. Good luck to Okung in Seattle. But Williams has the upper hand in my opinion.

I had thought about this as well. Okung is headed to Seattle with Pete Carroll and Alex Gibbs. We all know Alex Gibbs has been a terrific oline coach for years, but I'm kinda at a loss how Okung fits. Is Seattle going to run the ZBS? If not, why would Gibbs go there?

I think at the end of the day, both okung and TW will have solid careers. Here's to hoping that TW has the more productive one though.

[JimmyZ123]

I stopped reading after I read that. So we made a pick that was a better fit for our team, yet we made a "big mistake"? Sure thing, slugger.

yeah it really is amazing how we pick "the best fit" but its a mistake. get out of here joker. seattle woulda taken williams at 6 no questions asked. i understand shanahn doesnt have the BEST track record but when it comes to RB's and Olinement he is absolutely one of the best. i hope this guy watches every snap TW takes this season and watches how a real evaluator of talent works.

[The Tris]

What is NFPost.com and what makes their opinion better than this board's?

I think its a fairly good site, with their big slugger being Mike Lombardi. Lombardi has worked as a FO executive for the Broncos, 49ers, Raiders, Browns, and Eagles, and is now an analysis for the NFL Network as well.

And generally speaking, I enjoy Bunting's analysis, though his mock was way off this year.

Williams vs Okung is an easy argument to make, as it's the classic high ceiling vs. high floor debate. The topic has been beaten to death, and it basically breaks down to those who feel we should draft safe with high picks vs. those who think we should draft on who has the best potential.

Valid arguments on both sides, and as I don't think anyone will dispute that this pick carries some risk, I'm not sure how Wes Bunting is going to add to the many discussions we already have going on the topic.

[The Tris]

I love that strategy! Get high draft picks next year by making bad picks this year! If we do it right, we can have the top pick EVERY YEAR!

Thats a little dramatic don't you think?

[Quixote]

Okung could be the mistake.... we have to wait and see!

[skinsfan4128]

Okung could be the mistake.... we have to wait and see!

If the season started tomorrow, it wouldn't start soon enough.