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    damn your good Om ....

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    I don't think Snyder ever particularly cared about being loved by the fanbase. I think he views it as so large and self-sustaining that there is little that he can do to alienate it totally. He may very well be right. Last year appeared to be a tipping point, but all he had to do was hire a new coach and everything has settled down again.

    I think he cares very much about being loved and respected by the corporations who feed the machine and by the other owners. And in that regard, he has succeeded massively. And I'm sure Karl Swanson had a role in that.

    Considering that he apparently turned Om into a quivering Justin Bieber fan through clever use of a Blackberry, I imagine he is quite good in a boardroom. Probably uses the word "synergy" appropriately.

    From someone who does not own a beer wholesaler or who is a mod, the behind closed door accomplishments don't mean much to me.

    As for The Post, I don't know who started that feud or why it happened. My guess is something happened shortly after Snyder's tenure that was completely unrelated to football. And then one party escalated a petty grievance into a blood feud. There is an old expression about wrestling with pigs though. You can't win and it just makes the pig happy. I'm not sure what good comes from publicly baiting The Post year after year.

    (Note: The winning cures all ills thing is not exactly true. Baiting the Post would be a long-term dumb move even if the team was winning. Look at New England right now. For years, the fans believed that Belichick could do no wrong because they were winning titles. A few early round exits and now all his dick moves that used to be applauded are starting to be met with eye rolls. The problem in sports is that winning cures all, but some day, you are going to lose. There had better be some good will built up win that day inevitably comes. But - again - as I mentioned earlier, Snyder may never actually feel a hit from his being a prick).

    As for Snyder being praised in other cities. I've never seen it, but I can believe it happens in Minneapolis. The Vikings have had unstable onwership for over a decade. They have short-changed their roster at times - hurting their chances to win a Super Bowl. And they have been a risk to move. Vikings fans would accept Vlad the Impaler as their owner if he self-financed a new stadium in St. Paul).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardi's_kid_brother View Post
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    As for The Post, I don't know who started that feud or why it happened. My guess is something happened shortly after Snyder's tenure that was completely unrelated to football. And then one party escalated a petty grievance into a blood feud. ...
    IIRC, it was that the team found somebody selling a large block of tickets on the LL sidelines. They did some investigating and learned the Washington Post were the season ticket holders. The team then cancelled all tickets owned by the Washington Post.

    I believe that is what initially started the feud.

    The team claimed they didn't want people selling blocks of tix. And that's fine. But I suspect the main reason was that the team wanted to empty out as many 100 level sidelines seats as possible to sell to the new Touchdown Club and Tailgate Club members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardi's_kid_brother View Post
    (Note: The winning cures all ills thing is not exactly true. Baiting the Post would be a long-term dumb move even if the team was winning. Look at New England right now. For years, the fans believed that Belichick could do no wrong because they were winning titles. A few early round exits and now all his dick moves that used to be applauded are starting to be met with eye rolls. The problem in sports is that winning cures all, but some day, you are going to lose. There had better be some good will built up win that day inevitably comes. But - again - as I mentioned earlier, Snyder may never actually feel a hit from his being a prick).
    That actually backs my point. I don't think it matters if you are a good guy or not. All that matters is if you win. If you don't, even the best coaches are going to get turned on by the fans eventually. That's probably more true nowadays than it has been in the past.

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    I think there are two kinds of winning.

    On the field, and in the world of public opinion.

    If you aren't on the field, then the other becomes harder. But it is possible.

    Problem with the Skins is.....if Swanson/Andyman was the head PR guy for all these years. Then he stunk at it. Its not about being popular, its about being good....and he wasn't either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLongshot View Post
    That actually backs my point. I don't think it matters if you are a good guy or not. All that matters is if you win. If you don't, even the best coaches are going to get turned on by the fans eventually. That's probably more true nowadays than it has been in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    Why does everyone automatically assume that it is Snyder's goal to be loved by everyone?
    Loved by everyone? No, but a logical goal would be to not have your bad image impede your business.

    I know organizations that spend their corporate entertainment dollars elsewhere because of Snyder's negative reputation. The lack of customer care that the Redskins have become notorious for under his ownership drive businesses away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corcaigh View Post
    Loved by everyone? No, but a logical goal would be to not have your bad image impede your business.

    I know organizations that spend their corporate entertainment dollars elsewhere because of Snyder's negative reputation. The lack of customer care that the Redskins have become notorious for under his ownership drive businesses away.
    And yet the Redskins are still the most profitable franchise in the NFL.

    We are a bunch of sheep aren't we?


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    The Redskins remain the most profitable team in the league, posting operating income of $90 million. FedEx Field has 91,704 seats, the most in the NFL, and even though the team has struggled on the gridiron it is hard to find an empty seat come game time. Premium seating is also a hot commodity in D.C., as the Redskins generated more than $45 million in luxury suite revenue for the Redskins last year, the most in the NFL.

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