HBO Documentary GasLand

[mbws]

Just another reason to believe Cheney is truly an Evil Dick and that GWB was just a stupid puppet of his.


http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/gasland/index.html

This is not to say he is the only one or that others are not as bad or worse, but he was in a position to make things go his way, more than the others.

[Popeman38]

Just another reason to believe Cheney is truly an Evil Dick and that GWB was just a stupid puppet of his.


http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/gasland/index.html

This is not to say he is the only one or that others are not as bad or worse, but he was in a position to make things go his way, more than the others.

Have you watched the documentary? It is one of the worst I have ever seen. A documentary is supposed to be "a film or TV program presenting the facts about a person or event". It is supposed to be unbiased. It is not supposed to be hit piece produced to scare people away from something. Gasland was made for one reason: to take advantage of the atmosphere of hate directed at oil companies. This was a hit piece. Nothing more.

[twa]

I demand Obama put a stop to this travesty

[Maximus71]

Have you watched the documentary? It is one of the worst I have ever seen. A documentary is supposed to be "a film or TV program presenting the facts about a person or event". It is supposed to be unbiased. It is not supposed to be hit piece produced to scare people away from something. Gasland was made for one reason: to take advantage of the atmosphere of hate directed at oil companies. This was a hit piece. Nothing more.

Oil companies dont give a *** about you or your family, they would drown you in oil if they could to make sure they make their next Billion. Regardless of the purpose of this show, its reality.

[The Evil Genius]

I am convinced that Dick Cheney is a modern day Grigori Rasputin.

[sjinhan]

Oil companies dont give a *** about you or your family, they would drown you in oil if they could to make sure they make their next Billion. Regardless of the purpose of this show, its reality.

if you want to look at the world with those view....

hows it different than any other industry???

[twa]

if you want to look at the world with those view....

hows it different than any other industry???

I eagerly await a explanation on how they force their product on him as well.

[Popeman38]

Oil companies dont give a *** about you or your family, they would drown you in oil if they could to make sure they make their next Billion. Regardless of the purpose of this show, its reality.

As it is with any industry. This "documentary" went out of its way to tilt the table one direction. It was produced purely to capitalize on the hate directed at the oil companies.

[Elessar78]

A documentary doesn't have to be even-handed. Just started watching it after it was posted here, I live in rural PA and was playing soccer with a guy who came in from Texas to sign landowners up for gas leases.

So all you people saying that it's just anti-oil hate prop, you guys don't care about the people in the documentary whose decades old wells no longer have potable drinking water? You guys are something else. I mean these people can literally light their water on fire.

[Popeman38]

A documentary doesn't have to be even-handed. Just started watching it after it was posted here, I live in rural PA and was playing soccer with a guy who came in from Texas to sign landowners up for gas leases.

So all you people saying that it's just anti-oil hate prop, you guys don't care about the people in the documentary whose decades old wells no longer have potable drinking water? You guys are something else.

Did I say there weren't valid points raised by the documentary? Nope. But it is hard to take something at face value when it is so horribly put together and one-sided.

For example: Code Pink has some valid points, but they get lost in the crazy. Criticism of President Bush was valid, but all the groups that lumped him in with Hitler and Stalin lost their points in the crazy.

[Madison Redskin]

As it is with any industry. This "documentary" went out of its way to tilt the table one direction. It was produced purely to capitalize on the hate directed at the oil companies.

I didn't see the film, but I have a hard time believing someone came up with the idea, directed it, and distributed it AFTER the BP disaster.

[Elessar78]

Did I say there weren't valid points raised by the documentary? Nope. But it is hard to take something at face value when it is so horribly put together and one-sided.

For example: Code Pink has some valid points, but they get lost in the crazy. Criticism of President Bush was valid, but all the groups that lumped him in with Hitler and Stalin lost their points in the crazy.

The only thing unbalanced about this documentary is that it doesn't provide the Gas companies' rebuttal of the claims. The author offers to interview them and give their side but they refuse.

I don't see how the facts he presents, like tainted drinking water is anything close to using the Hitler/Stalin argument.

[twa]

I didn't see the film, but I have a hard time believing someone came up with the idea, directed it, and distributed it AFTER the BP disaster.

The hate didn't start then.

As to the water wells,there are legal remedies for that,and I certainly think it should be compensated for.
If you sell your mineral rights (or do not own them) ,I wonder what your legal right to clean underground water is?

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As to the lighting water on fire...I posted a story on that awhile back.

Kinda amazing the health dept claimed it was safe to drink(I assume AFTER ya put out the fire)

[sjinhan]

I didn't see the film, but I have a hard time believing someone came up with the idea, directed it, and distributed it AFTER the BP disaster.

Disclaimer: I work in the oil and gas industry. I started my career actually with Schlumberger actually performing fracturing jobs in the field with a crew. I probably did 700-800 frac jobs personally.

Anyways this guy probably got started 1-2 years ago. Fracturing has been around for more than 50 years. When the companies started to get interested in the Marcellus Shale in PA/NY few years back, it stirred up alot of of the environmentalist in the NYC area.

The problem is that, although drilling, fracturing and all these other stuff have been around for LONG LONG time, its new for people up there. To make matters worse, I am guessing there isnt enough experienced workers in the PA/NY area as there is down here in TX which is leading to some CRITICIAL procedures (building of the pad, chemical pit, drilling, cementing and on and on) to be done incorrectly due to the inexperience. In the oilfield on the upstream side, worker's experience really drives the success rate of any activity. So its not surprising that when those film maker went out to the new area, he found find some horrible stuff out there.

With shortage of EXPERIENCED workers and professional in the oil and gas industry whenever the new area goes into developement, there is always a learning curve unfortunately as the people get trained up properly.

[sjinhan]

The only thing unbalanced about this documentary is that it doesn't provide the Gas companies' rebuttal of the claims. The author offers to interview them and give their side but they refuse.

I don't see how the facts he presents, like tainted drinking water is anything close to using the Hitler/Stalin argument.

For me at least from oil and gas professional perspective, drilling and completing the well that allows gas to leak into the water source is as big of a NO NO as the BP oil spill out in the Gulf.

I dont think there is an argument that can be made to convince me that thats an acceptable practice.

However lets not get lose the big picture here. As how the World CURRENTLY function today, one way/place or another the oil and gas MUST produced. While these few wells are causing harm to people and environment, tens and hundreds of wells around world is causing a greated good for the people and the world as we know today. There are procedures and regulations that is out there today already that limit the risk as much as we can. We need to focus on why those few wells failed then making sure it doesnt happen again and improve the current practices.