The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[Warhead36]

He's stated he's going back to college next year. Now could he change his mind? Yes but he's also said he's a man of his word so I take him on that

If Kanter checks out medically then I take him because I see Williams going #1

Yeah I read that. Bah, making an already weak draft class even weaker. If Barnes goes back to school too and we don't end up with a top 3 pick(for Williams, Kanter, or Jones), I'd strongly consider just trading the pick and getting an established vet in his mid 20s that can help us now. I don't know who'd be available, just saying that I'd be open to trading the pick.

[Dukes and Skins]

Yeah I read that. Bah, making an already weak draft class even weaker. If Barnes goes back to school too and we don't end up with a top 3 pick(for Williams, Kanter, or Jones), I'd strongly consider just trading the pick and getting an established vet in his mid 20s that can help us now. I don't know who'd be available, just saying that I'd be open to trading the pick.

The last time we did that we could have gotten Steph Curry or Demar DeRozen. Not saying it wouldn't be a bad move, but I'd rather keep the draft pick

[Warhead36]

The last time we did that we could have gotten Steph Curry or Demar DeRozen. Not saying it wouldn't be a bad move, but I'd rather keep the draft pick

True, but this draft class really looks weak. And you can't just rely on the draft in the NBA, you have to be able to mix in FAs/trades.

[Dukes and Skins]

True, but this draft class really looks weak. And you can't just rely on the draft in the NBA, you have to be able to mix in FAs/trades.

Very true but if we're picking #5 I want to take the guy there instead of trading the pick away. I'd take Terrence Jones at #5 and not look back. With the 2nd 1st rounder I'm looking at Trey Thompkins out of Georgia as a C for us.

[stevemcqueen1]

Very true but if we're picking #5 I want to take the guy there instead of trading the pick away. I'd take Terrence Jones at #5 and not look back. With the 2nd 1st rounder I'm looking at Trey Thompkins out of Georgia as a C for us.

I think Thompkins is a little small and soft to play center. He's like a poor man's Jared Sullinger with a little more offensive polish and a lot less strength.

If Barnes and Sullinger go back, I'd still keep the pick. Trading a high lottery pick for veterans absolutely blew last time we did it. My top choice would be Kanter. Kanter might be my top choice even if Sullinger and Barnes both come out. If he's off the board then I'd go for Jonas Valanciunas. If he's off the board then I go for Derrick Williams or Terrence Jones. If they are both off the board then I go for Perry Jones. Our floor is picking six. One of those six players will be available unless they all decide to stay out of the draft factoring in the top 3 pick Kyrie Irving would draw if he came out. But even if he goes back too, there are still probably six forwards and centers who are good enough to keep our pick for.

---------- Post added March-26th-2011 at 02:36 PM ----------

I also think that Barnes and Sullinger will come out in the end. They'd be foolish not to. Next year's class has about 7 forwards/centers in it's top 7...

Quincy Miller, James McAdoo, Anthony Davis, and Michael Gilchrist are all super impressive looking 3s.

The iron is hot for Sullinger and Barnes. This is pretty much their best chance at going in the top three picks.

Does anyone know how next year's draft would work if there was a year long lockout? How would they determine the lottery?

If they just use the same standings as this year there is a good chance we could get another top 3 choice for the 2012 class. I wouldn't mind that. In that case I'd trade some assets (Nick Young? Blatche? second first from this year) to try and get another lottery pick for 2012. That'd be three high lottery picks between 2011 and 2012. You could pull off a Kanter selection this year and then raid the Kentucky players again and get Quincy Miller and Michael Gilchrist in 2012. You could feature this absolutely badass lineup:

1 - Wall / Crawford
2 - Gilchrist / Crawford
3 - Miller / Booker
4 - Kanter / Booker / Seraphin
5 - McGee / Kanter / Seraphin

That'd be a flipping sweet 8 man group. We could make the Kentucky lineup complete by signing DeMarcus Cousins when he hits FA LOL!

EDIT: Wait, my bad, Quincy Miller is going to Baylor, not Kentucky. I was thinking of Marquise Teague and Anthony Davis for some reason. Well that totally messes up everything.

---------- Post added March-26th-2011 at 02:47 PM ----------

Also, here's yet another question for you all: what do you guys think of Patric Young, the freshman from Florida? He's on the tail end of their rotation and hasn't gotten a lot of time this season, but he looks like the most athletically gifted true big in this entire class. I don't know if he'll come out this year, but if he did, he'd have to be worth a look as a developmental type.

---------- Post added March-26th-2011 at 02:57 PM ----------

Whatever ends up happening in the draft, I just want us to take some really high character guys with great intangibles. McGee's boneheadedness and Blatche's crappy attitude have soured me on that type of player. I think that's a big part of the reason I'm so high on players like Sullinger, Barnes, Gilchrist, and now Patric Young. I want hard-nosed players who might sacrifice a little skill or athleticism but bring grittiness or intelligence to the table. We're a young team that's flush in speed and athleticism but lacking in savvy and toughness. I'm hoping we can use the next two drafts to change that.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Does anyone know how next year's draft would work if there was a year long lockout? How would they determine the lottery?

If they just use the same standings as this year there is a good chance we could get another top 3 choice for the 2012 class. I wouldn't mind that. In that case I'd trade some assets (Nick Young? Blatche? second first from this year) to try and get another lottery pick for 2012. That'd be three high lottery picks between 2011 and 2012. You could pull off a Kanter selection this year and then raid the Kentucky players again and get Quincy Miller and Michael Gilchrist in 2012. You could feature this absolutely badass lineup:

1 - Wall / Crawford
2 - Gilchrist / Crawford
3 - Miller / Booker
4 - Kanter / Booker / Seraphin
5 - McGee / Kanter / Seraphin

There's just one problem with your idea.

If you trade Blatche/Young/McGee for lottery picks, by the time those picks develop (assuming they develop at all) you risk losing Wall.

Just something to think about....

[StillUnknown]

If they just use the same standings as this year there is a good chance we could get another top 3 choice for the 2012 class. I wouldn't mind that. In that case I'd trade some assets (Nick Young? Blatche? second first from this year) to try and get another lottery pick for 2012. That'd be three high lottery picks between 2011 and 2012. You could pull off a Kanter selection this year and then raid the Kentucky players again and get Quincy Miller and Michael Gilchrist in 2012. You could feature this absolutely badass lineup:

1 - Wall / Crawford
2 - Gilchrist / Crawford
3 - Miller / Booker
4 - Kanter / Booker / Seraphin
5 - McGee / Kanter / Seraphin

That'd be a flipping sweet 8 man group. We could make the Kentucky lineup complete by signing DeMarcus Cousins when he hits FA LOL!

EDIT: Wait, my bad, Quincy Miller is going to Baylor, not Kentucky. I was thinking of Marquise Teague and Anthony Davis for some reason. Well that totally messes up everything.[COLOR="Gold"]

that doesn't take into account any potential free agents that will come here. I can't see them having all that cap room and then doing nothing with it

[stevemcqueen1]

There's just one problem with your idea.

If you trade Blatche/Young/McGee for lottery picks, by the time those picks develop (assuming they develop at all) you risk losing Wall.

Just something to think about....

I think we'd be able to keep him with that much talent at 2-4. Especially if we're fortunate enough to draft Quincy Miller. If he's on the roster Wall will stay. Anyone would. That'd be like Russell Westbrook deciding to leave for greener pastures.

Michael Gilchrist is the cherry on top. A true Scottie Pippen or Brandon Roy-like sidekick who everyone would love to play with.

We'd probably have to be ****ing lucky to get the both of them though. As in picking about second and fifth overall in 2012, but still having everything break the right way in the draft lucky.

The 2012 players would only be two years younger than Wall and they'd be on about the same window as him and they will have a year or two of veterancy by the time Wall's contract is up in 2014. We would already be rapidly improving by then.

Regarding the FA situation, I'd just say screw signing FA starters if we had that kind of talent. We'll need the cap room just to keep our own once their rookie deals run out. Even still, it might take some of them accepting less money to stay together because I could see Wall, Gilchrist, and Miller all being the type that could command max deals down the line and Kanter wouldn't be cheap. If we somehow managed to stay far enough under the cap to make a sizable FA move, I guess I'd spend my money on DeMarcus Cousins. He'd almost be superfluous, but that'd be just about the only piece we'd have room on the roster to add.

[skinfan2k]

This draft is full of role players. I would really love to have more picks. These are guys i think you can find in the 2nd round that would build this roster: Nolan Smith, Jon Diebler, Cam Long, Kenneth Fried

[Warhead36]

This draft is full of role players. I would really love to have more picks. These are guys i think you can find in the 2nd round that would build this roster: Nolan Smith, Jon Diebler, Cam Long, Kenneth Fried

GEORGE MASON'S Cam Long?? I don't see him getting drafted.

Nolan Smith in the 2nd would be a steal. Perfect backup to Wall.

[Dukes and Skins]

GEORGE MASON'S Cam Long?? I don't see him getting drafted.

Nolan Smith in the 2nd would be a steal. Perfect backup to Wall.

I doubt he gets drafted unless its late, but Nolan I could see going late 1st early 2nd.

[Warhead36]

Yeah but with how weak this class is turning out, Smith will probably get taken by a playoff team that could use a smart PG with big game(albeit college)experience in the mid 20s.

[Gator Bait]

This thread has gotten really funny/ridiculous

Blatche an asset??

Blatche-Young for a lottery pick...haha

Cam Long drafted...haha

calling someone a poor man's Sullinger???? sullinger is a broke mother ****er himself!!!!!

taking Kanter over Williams.... hilarious

Terrance Jones over Perry Jones....really?????

[Dukes and Skins]

Yeah but with how weak this class is turning out, Smith will probably get taken by a playoff team that could use a smart PG with big game(albeit college)experience in the mid 20s.

Agreed I could very well see him on a team like Boston or somewhere like that who wants a guy who can come off the bench and run the point for the starter.

[stevemcqueen1]

Blatche-Young for a lottery pick...haha

I assume your mildly insulting tone was directed at me. Blatche and Young for a lottery pick sounds ridiculous? More so than taking on a bad contract plus Mo Williams and Jamario Moon for a lottery pick?

calling someone a poor man's Sullinger???? sullinger is a broke mother ****er himself!!!!!

Sullinger is a terrific player.

taking Kanter over Williams.... hilarious

If Kanter's knees check out, I'd do it. Where does a 6'8 power forward who doesn't rebound well fit on this team?

Terrance Jones over Perry Jones....really?????

Why not? Your boy Perry Jones was pretty much a chump this year and his teams have never been worth a damn. At least Terrence Jones was actually good and his team is winning.

BTW, it's nice to see you changed your tune on Harrison Barnes. Remember our discussions from earlier? Yeah. I was right and you were wrong. Let's say it aloud together everyone. Stevemcqueen = 1, Gatorbait = 0.