The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[Dukes and Skins]

I'd give them our #6, Blatche and a future first round pick. I wouldn't give up the 18th. I'd hang on to that.

I'd want to hold onto #18 as well as I really want Klay Thompson with the 18th pick

[StillUnknown]

I'd give them our #6, Blatche and a future first round pick. I wouldn't give up the 18th. I'd hang on to that.

i wouldn't go as far as future first

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Thinking about this, if we don't draft Juan Carlos Navarro and then trade him to Memphis for a pick and then trade the pick back for Crittenton, Gilbert isn't suspended for the gun incident, we don't lose as many games last year, we don't get the #1 pick and we don't get John Wall. Hell we might even still have Gilbert, Jamison, Caron, Haywood and D Steezy.

Juan Carlos Navarro is the key to everything.

[stevemcqueen1]

I don't think #2 is going to cost as much as you guys think. The Wolves have to trade it. Either that or trade some of the good players they already have.

I still kind of like my plan of finding a way to trade up to #2 and still keep #6 for Enes Kanter.

The only damper is the damn lockout. Word is this lockout could potentially last longer than a whole season.

Not only that, one player who writes for the play X blog thinks that if the lockout lasts throughout an entire season then at least one NBA franchise will fold.

The players are in a very strong position here which means this lockout is going to be very contentious. The position of the NFL players is essentially weak compared to the owners, meaning they'll be on the hook for more concessions, meaning the lockout will probably end faster.

The NBA players can basically tell the owners to **** off and weather this situation a lot better. And if worse comes to worst, then the players can just go play basketball in Europe right?

So back to the draft, I'm a little worried about giving up a whole lot to draft American players. We're probably best off drafting Europeans and letting them play in Europe while this lockout is going on.

[Gator Bait]

We traded Navarro's protected first to Memphis for Crittenton. If we never made this trade, we would've had the Grizzlies first round pick this year.

I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the Navarro protected 1st trade was only good for a few years....after that it was void (the pick) We also got

---------- Post added June-3rd-2011 at 01:29 PM ----------

. GACOLB, your boy Tyler Honeycutt couldn't even lift the bar once. I'm not sure, but I think even I could manage to lift that once and I haven't benched since high school. Does that change your opinion of him at all? Three other players couldn't do it either: Jereme Richmond, E'Twuan Moore, and Dmetri McCamey.
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Kevin Durrant is another guy who couldn't get the bar up....pretty sure GACOLB knows this, and pretty sure it doesn't change his opinion on Honeycutt. I'd be Leary of a center or PF who couldn't lift it once...but it doesn't really matter when we are talking about a wing.

---------- Post added June-3rd-2011 at 01:30 PM ----------

I'd want to hold onto #18 as well as I really want Klay Thompson with the 18th pick

there is ZERO Clay Thompson is available at #18....I'd love to pull a Booker type trade off and trade #34 and #18 to the team that takes Thompson.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

I saw on NBC that Austin Freeman was working out with the Wizards. Any chance that we draft him in the second round?

I think there is a chance. The kid can knock down open shots and we need guys to spread the floor.

[Gator Bait]

I don't think #2 is going to cost as much as you guys think. The Wolves have to trade it. Either that or trade some of the good players they already have.

I still kind of like my plan of finding a way to trade up to #2 and still keep #6 for Enes Kanter.

mortgaging the future to take two guys in the top 6 in a weak draft is a terrible idea to me.

The players are in a very strong position here which means this lockout is going to be very contentious. The position of the NFL players is essentially weak compared to the owners, meaning they'll be on the hook for more concessions, meaning the lockout will probably end faster.

you've got it ass backwards....the NBA players have the weak position...the owners are going to get the majority of their demands...it wont even be 50-50. The Players have no leverage.

NFL the players have the majority of the leverage in their lockout....they've already gotten a court to rule in their favor (we'll see what happens in the appeals court soon) but I expect the players to get a lot of what they want.

The NBA players can basically tell the owners to **** off and weather this situation a lot better. And if worse comes to worst, then the players can just go play basketball in Europe right?

how many of those NBA players do you think actually have the capital to "weather the situation".....I'd be willing to bet not many. Just as you've pointed out the NBA players can play in Europe...the NFL players could go to the UFL.

So back to the draft, I'm a little worried about giving up a whole lot to draft American players. We're probably best off drafting Europeans and letting them play in Europe while this lockout is going on.

depends on the player

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Per Chad Ford:

Brandon Knight worked out alone in Sacramento today. They love him. No way he’s there at 7. Kemba vs. Jimmer next week in Sacramento.

[No Excuses]

I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the Navarro protected 1st trade was only good for a few years....after that it was void (the pick)

It would have expired in 2013-14 season.

[Dukes and Skins]

GB with Klay Thompson it all depends some mocks you'll see him at 18 some you'll see him gone at #10 its tough to call but I'd love to have him on our team would provide a good scoring option

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

I'm not gonna lie, I like having **** all to myself and being special. **** it though; us constantly-mocked Wiz fans have to stick together. Thus I give to you the NBA mock draft Library of Alexandria:

http://walterfootball.com/nbadraftdata.php

[Gator Bait]

GB with Klay Thompson it all depends some mocks you'll see him at 18 some you'll see him gone at #10 its tough to call but I'd love to have him on our team would provide a good scoring option

I'm not going by mocks Dukes....I'm going by my knowledge of the basketball players in this draft...and I'd be very surprised if Thomson isn't a lottery pick...I actually think he could go top ten. He is the best pure scorer in the draft. I'd love to have him on our team as well.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

This is a proposed trade from another message board. When I saw it I just shook my head.

DET gets: R. Sessions, C. Eyenga, A. Blatche, approx. 6 millions TPE (CLE)
DET loses: C. Villanueva, B. Gordon, 2011 8th pick overall

WAS gets: C. Villanueva, B. Gordon, M. Harris, 2011 32nd pick overall (CLE), approx. 8 millions TPE (CLE)
WAS loses: R. Lewis, A. Blatche, J. Crawford, 2011 6th pick overall

CLE gets: R. Lewis, J. Crawford, 2011 6th and 8th overall picks (WAS & DET)
CLE loses: R. Sessions, C. Eyenga, M. Harris, 14 millions TPE (Lebron James), 2011 32nd pick overall

Why for the Pistons: BG and CV never fitted their team. Getting rid of their contracts accelerates their rebuilding process, with Rip's expiring in two seasons they're ready for a makeover.

They get a much needed productive PG in Sessions, a talented big in Blatche that can score & rebound (also cheaper than CV), and an athletic back up SG/SF with good defensive potential in Eyenga.

They also save money on the payroll and get a nice trade exception.

Why for the Wizards: Blatche has brought chemistry issues to the team so he brings them negative value and they want to move him.

They pick at 32 instead of 6 but still have the 18th pick to bring in a young talented SF.

Plus they get two young starters in BG and CV, a much better fit than in Detroit. CV has shown he could produce when he got his playing time as a Buck, and BG was looking very good paired up with a young supersonic PG in Rose.

Most importantly they get rid of Lewis' albatross contract and get cap relief, 8 millions TPE.

Why for the Cavaliers: it fits their rebuilding plan:
Lewis' contract expires in 2013 along with Davis', and Dan Gilbert gets the young talent he wants for his money. Four top ten picks isn't a bad way to start rebuilding a franchise.

Thoughts? Is it fair? There are a lot of ways to balance the trade with different pick combinations and/or fillers...

[No Excuses]

That would be one stupid ****ing trade.

It also has Grunfeld special written all over it. I can actually see it happening.

[stevemcqueen1]

LOL!!! Why in the HELL would we accept that deal?

Clearly that guy isn't a Wizards fan, did it come from a Wizards board?

---------- Post added June-4th-2011 at 10:38 AM ----------

That would be one stupid ****ing trade.

It also has Grunfeld special written all over it. I can actually see it happening.

It'll never happen. Leonsis would never allow Grunfeld to trade Crawford, certainly not for such a ****ty return.

I think it's interesting this guy thinks we need cap relief right now... what for? There's a lockout on for next year and then his contract is expiring in the same window that benefits us as it does for the Cavs. And if Rashard's contract is such an albatross then why the hell would we trade it for two other, longer, awful contracts? Villaneuva is a bum and Gordon gives us less than we already had in Crawford to be honest. We get worse across the board with this deal.

Not only that, we probably want to move up, not waaaay down.

I see how this deal makes sense for the Cavs. I don't see how it makes any sense whatsoever for everyone else. Verdict: Cavs fan pipe dream.