The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

This is what this thread needs to be about. Kill the bitching and moaning.

[Chachie]

The one thing I will say though, is that pick and roll or not, you aren't winning in the post season without shooting. It's essential for floor spacing and defenses in the post season game plan specifically against their opponents.

"Playoffs?!?! Playoffs??"

[RonArtest15]

SM....I think Davis compares VERY well defensively to Marcus Camby when he came out of UMass. Says a lot about Davis, because Camby had 2 years up on him. That being said, his frame will allow him to get stronger, but no where near the level of Dwight Howard. Dude has a ridiculous upper-body. Anyways...

Let me ask yall...assuming Blatche won't be moved (and on the heels of him going up to NYC to see a shoulder specialist today), is the ideal scenario to use the amenesty clause on him in the summer of 2012, and then try to find a trade partner who would want Shard's expiring contract? If the Wizards could find someone to take Blatche off their hands and keep that amnesty clause in their back pocket, that would be amazing. I don't think the clause should be used on Shard though. I think the team (as bad as they are) can tough it out with him on the roster for the rest of the year. I have a feeling that SOMEONE will want that contract going into the 2012-13 season.

*Randon, but Kevin Seraphin looks HORRIBLE. His agent did a hell of a job putting that clause in his contract about not playing in the D-LEague. Dude looks like he'd hardly get burn at Montrose Christian. He's really....REALLY bad. Just a space eater. Waste of a pick, IMO.

[stevemcqueen1]

Don't salaries have to match up pretty closely on a trade? If we trade Rashard's contract, doesn't that mean we'll have to get some real crap back in return?

[Gator Bait]

is the ideal scenario to use the amenesty clause on him in the summer of 2012, and then try to find a trade partner who would want Shard's expiring contract? If the Wizards could find someone to take Blatche off their hands and keep that amnesty clause in their back pocket, that would be amazing. I don't think the clause should be used on Shard though. I think the team (as bad as they are) can tough it out with him on the roster for the rest of the year.

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you don't use the amnesty on a guy making 8 million a year. You save it for a max level player who doesn't pan out (which happens all the time in the NBA) No need in dropping money off the books when we aren't going to spend it on free agents.

---------- Post added January-12th-2012 at 02:37 PM ----------

Don't salaries have to match up pretty closely on a trade? If we trade Rashard's contract, doesn't that mean we'll have to get some real crap back in return?

no....the salary match got loosed up even more in the new CBA. Also, you could trade away one expiring contract for multiple other players adding up to that expiring you are trading. I don't think anyone will trade for Rashard's contract. I think we end up waiving him next year and taking the 10 million dollar cap hit rather than keeping him, buying him out, or trading him.

[RonArtest15]

you don't use the amnesty on a guy making 8 million a year. You save it for a max level player who doesn't pan out (which happens all the time in the NBA) No need in dropping money off the books when we aren't going to spend it on free agents.

---------- Post added January-12th-2012 at 02:37 PM ----------



no....the salary match got loosed up even more in the new CBA. Also, you could trade away one expiring contract for multiple other players adding up to that expiring you are trading. I don't think anyone will trade for Rashard's contract. I think we end up waiving him next year and taking the 10 million dollar cap hit rather than keeping him, buying him out, or trading him.

So if there are no takers for Blatche via trade, what then?

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Surprised you don't know about this stevem

NBA trade machine: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

And doesn't the amnesty need to be used on a player who was alread signed when the new CBA was agreed to? if so, that really narrows down who we can use it on.

[Samuels]

Surprised you don't know about this stevem

NBA trade machine: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

And doesn't the amnesty need to be used on a player who was alread signed when the new CBA was agreed to? if so, that really narrows down who we can use it on.

realgm.com has a awesome trade kicker as well. Not sure how many of you are users over there I don't post much but been a member for years. Its a good basketball forum.

[Gator Bait]

Surprised you don't know about this stevem

NBA trade machine: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

And doesn't the amnesty need to be used on a player who was alread signed when the new CBA was agreed to? if so, that really narrows down who we can use it on.

forgot about this....can't be used on new contracts. By all means....amnesty him right away!!!!!! Use the waive clause in Rashard's contract that will cut him from the team and only pay out 10 million rather than the 20+ that he will count against us if we keep him!

[stevemcqueen1]

Surprised you don't know about this stevem

NBA trade machine: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

And doesn't the amnesty need to be used on a player who was alread signed when the new CBA was agreed to? if so, that really narrows down who we can use it on.

I've used trade machine before but it's such a pain in the ass to get the contracts appropriately aligned. Math isn't my strong suit. I know the rule is something like 125% of the contract is taken back by one of the teams if the deal puts a team over the soft cap but I can't remember which one it is or what the implications are other than the total salaries on both ends of the trade need to be fairly close.

I have a hard time thinking of a team that would be able to offer us something that makes sense for us that would get close enough to Rashard's deal to make the trade worth our while.

The team would need the be trying to clear a ton of salary to make a run at a Free agent, meaning they'd probably be trading off poopy contracts that we would hopefully have absolutely no interest in picking up. I'm thinking a team like the Magic or the Mavericks--trying to make a run at a guy like Dwight Howard, and there isn't a single other player on either of those teams that interests me aside from Dwight and Dirk, who obviously would not be a part of any deal. As far as I know, the Mavs have already cleared out their bad deals in preparation of FA anyway.

To incentivize the deal for us, they would have to throw in something like first round draft picks. Why would we want a bunch of late 20s draft picks though? I doubt a team picking in the lottery would give that up to take on Rashard's contract because that would mean they're ready to make their run now. Who is in that situation right now? New Jersey?

Our long term advantage as an organization is that we're terrible right now, are working on a bunch of rookie contracts, and have the immediate flexibility to take on short term awful contracts in order to get long term quality in return along with that short term millstone.

Finding the right taker for Rashard's deal will be very hard and complicated because there can't be many teams around the league in the right situation to offer us something appealing in return. We're almost better off just letting Rashard's contract come off our own books in the next two years and clear out a ton of room for us. We could extend Wall with the money and find him a max deal partner in crime if there was one that was worth it (DeMarcus Cousins...)

---------- Post added January-12th-2012 at 06:36 PM ----------

Can someone explain to me how Rashard's contract can come off the books for next season? As far as I can tell next year is the expiring year of his deal and I can't find any information on whether he's got any options in the deal.

If next year is the expiring year of his deal then he doesn't help us trade with teams who are looking to make a run at the FAs this summer like Deron and Dwight.

[Skin'emAlive]

This is what this thread needs to be about. Kill the bitching and moaning.

You mean a thread about guys that arent on our team? This isnt a draft thread, and we are like only 3 weeks into the season!

[Rocky21]

I know there are some Grantland readers on this site. if not, you're sure to get a kick out of this.

House is Bill Simmons' buddy from college I think? and he is a fellow long suffering Washington sports fan. (How we describe ourselves these days.)

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...-jim-mcilvaine

And House, if you're reading this (I don't tweet) really loved the Flop comment, kiss cam idea, count down clock and disguise...although I think at one point Arenas may have been more hated.....but yeah our captain is damn close.

[Destino]

I know there are some Grantland readers on this site. if not, you're sure to get a kick out of this.

House is Bill Simmons' buddy from college I think? and he is a fellow long suffering Washington sports fan. (How we describe ourselves these days.)

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...-jim-mcilvaine

And House, if you're reading this (I don't tweet) really loved the Flop comment, kiss cam idea, count down clock and disguise...although I think at one point Arenas may have been more hated.....but yeah our captain is damn close.

So many fun lines in this. "Like Teddy said, this season is about pain. I can think of no better torturer than Flip."

[gbear]

I liked the beginning of our only win, and I've seen that defensive effort a few other games. It just needs to be there throughout an entire game no matter what the score is.

I liked the link, but I don't think Blatch is anywhere near the most hated DC sports figure ever. D. Sanders was a Skin for a season is one which comes to mind. I don't think he is even up to Fat Albert's level, but that may only be because of the area's fixation on the Skins.

[StillUnknown]

I liked the beginning of our only win, and I've seen that defensive effort a few other games. It just needs to be there throughout an entire game no matter what the score is.

I liked the link, but I don't think Blatch is anywhere near the most hated DC sports figure ever. D. Sanders was a Skin for a season is one which comes to mind. I don't think he is even up to Fat Albert's level, but that may only be because of the area's fixation on the Skins.

In terms of passionate hatred within the fanbase, Blatche easily eclipses Deion and is running neck and neck with Fat Al.