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    Quote Originally Posted by shuler74 View Post
    being the best player on a 1-12 team does not impress me....his numbers do not count for taking terrible shots at the worst times...or crying for a call and not getting back on defense or untimely goaltending over and over and over again...rather have a player with a higher bball iq.
    how many games have you watched this year? I think McGee has shown dramatic improvement in all aspects of the game. He has definitely improved his post game, rebounding, and on the ball defense. Since I've been on the West Coast the past couple weeks, I've only gotten to see a few Wizards games, but I've probably seen over half of the games this year and I think his goaltendings have dramatically decreased as well.

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    very very impressed with mcgee progress and I have painfully watched every game this year, offensively he has improved..that being said he needs to know his limitations , where we are in a game situation, what's a good shot in this particular moment, overall bball iq
    Last edited by shuler74; January-17th-2012 at 02:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuler74 View Post
    being the best player on a 1-12 team does not impress me....his numbers do not count for taking terrible shots at the worst times...or crying for a call and not getting back on defense or untimely goaltending over and over and over again...rather have a player with a higher bball iq.
    I'd rather have the dream team. Unless you can find a way to land a center that is better than him your complaints are just noise. The bottom line is that you don't improve a franchise by dumping it's better players, especially at the center position which is horribly thin at the moment league wide.

    And please... don't suggest the draft. I'm going to throw up if one more person talks about the draft like the cure to all the Wizards ills. This team is young enough: (red rookie, yellow 2nd year)

    Wall / Mack
    Young / Crawford
    Singleton / Vesely
    Booker / Blatche
    McGee / Seraphin

    If we got any younger we'd be hoping for a final four appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuler74 View Post
    very very impressed with mcgee progress and I have painfully watched every game this year, offensively he has improved..that being said he needs to know his limitations , where we are in a game situation, what's a good shot in this particular moment, overall bball iq
    from the games I've watched, I've thought his shot selection is pretty good. Definitely much better than last year. BBIQ is partially a reflection of your coach....we need to clean house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    I'd rather have the dream team. Unless you can find a way to land a center that is better than him your complaints are just noise. The bottom line is that you don't improve a franchise by dumping it's better players, especially at the center position which is horribly thin at the moment league wide.

    And please... don't suggest the draft. I'm going to throw up if one more person talks about the draft like the cure to all the Wizards ills. This team is young enough: (red rookie, yellow 2nd year)

    Wall / Mack
    Young / Crawford
    Singleton / Vesely
    Booker / Blatche
    McGee / Seraphin

    If we got any younger we'd be hoping for a final four appearance.
    yeah, we need to get some legit vets to put on this team of young boys. I'd really like to trade the 2012 lottery pick for a scoring wing.

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    I am suggesting getting a nba professional, he is the best player on a 1-12 team..lol. Sorry I rather have a player with substance over style, I get it you love mcgee..me not so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuler74 View Post
    I am suggesting getting a nba professional, he is the best player on a 1-12 team..lol. Sorry I rather have a player with substance over style, I get it you love mcgee..me not so much
    and that player is... who exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuler74 View Post
    I am suggesting getting a nba professional, he is the best player on a 1-12 team..lol. Sorry I rather have a player with substance over style, I get it you love mcgee..me not so much
    he's a 23 year old center who has improved every year he's been in the league. He averages a double double and leads the NBA in blocks. NBA centers typically aren't fully developed until they are at least 27, so it is likely McGee continues to get better. you don't get rid of the bright spots on your team....especially when you don't have too many of them.

    You add a legit 20ppg wing scorer to the core of Wall and McGee and you start to move forward and have a chance to get in the playoff picture.

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    I am not Grunfield....I get it you like mcgee, I am not his biggest fan

    I would get rid of Mcgee, NY and Blatche...but I guess I am in the minority on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuler74 View Post
    I am not Grunfield....I get it you like mcgee, I am not his biggest fan

    I would get rid of Mcgee, NY and Blatche...but I guess I am in the minority on this
    I'm with you on Blatche, and I'd definitely rather trade Young for an asset rather than see him walk next year in FA (which I'm pretty sure he'll do)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Bait View Post
    yeah, we need to get some legit vets to put on this team of young boys. I'd really like to trade the 2012 lottery pick for a scoring wing.
    It would have to be a really good one considering our draft position. Sadly the FA class for SG and SF looks horrible.

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    anyone read the rumor on ESPN that the Wizards are going to strongly pursue Jeff Green in FA? I'm not really sure how he would fit in on this team? Jeff seems like he is best suited as the first forward off the bench on a contender. I'm not really sure where he fits on a young team....too small to play 4 and doesn't seem to be the scorer that we'd need on the wing. I don't think I'd be in favor of him signing a large deal with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuler74 View Post
    I would get rid of Mcgee, NY and Blatche...but I guess I am in the minority on this
    I'd get rid of John Wall if I could have Derrick Rose but that isn't the way it works. Who they can be replaces with is the issue.

    Blatche? You have Booker and Seraphin. After that take your pick:
    Kevin Love, Minnesota Timberwolves – $4.6 million – Restricted ($6.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics – $21.2 million – Unrestricted
    Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs – $21.2 million – Unrestricted
    Michael Beasley, Minnesota Timberwolves – $6.3 million – Restricted ($8.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Brandon Bass, Boston Celtics – $4.3 million – Player Option ($4.3 million)
    J.J. Hickson, Sacramento Kings – $2.4 million – Restricted ($3.4 million Qualifying Offer)
    Elton Brand, Philadelphia 76ers – $17.1 million – Early Termination Option ($18.2 million)
    Antawn Jamison, Cleveland Cavaliers – $15.1 million – Unrestricted
    Jason Thompson, Sacramento Kings – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Marreese Speights, Philadelphia 76ers – $2.8 million – Restricted ($3.8 million Qualifying Offer)
    Ryan Anderson, Orlando Magic – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    D.J. White, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Patrick Patterson, Houston Rockets – $2.0 million – Team Option ($2.1 million)
    Anthony Randolph, Minnesota Timberwolves – $2.9 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Ronny Turiaf, Washington Wizards – $4.4 million – Unrestricted
    Boris Diaw, Charlotte Bobcats – $9.0 million – Unrestricted
    Ersan Ilyasova, Milwaukee Bucks – $2.5 million – Unrestricted
    Darrell Arthur, Memphis Grizzlies – $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Louis Amundson, Indiana Pacers – $2.4 million – Unrestricted
    Jason Maxiell, Detroit Pistons – $5.0 million – Player Option ($5.0 million)
    Jordan Hill, Houston Rockets – $2.9 million – Team Option ($3.6 million)
    Craig Brackins, Phildelphia 76ers – $1.4 million – Team Option ($1.5 million)
    Chris Johnson, Portland Trail Blazers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Derrick Caracter, L.A. Lakers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Austin Daye, Detroit Pistons – $1.9 million – Team Option ($3.0 million)
    Brian Cook, L.A. Clippers – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Ian Mahinmi, Dallas Mavericks – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Luke Harangody, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Young? You've got Crawford or:
    Eric Gordon, New Orleans Hornets – $3.8 million – Restricted ($5.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    O.J. Mayo, Memphis Grizzlies – $5.6 million – Restricted ($7.4 million Qualifying Offer)
    Evan Turner, Philadelphia 76ers – $5.0 million – Team Option ($5.3 million)
    Gerald Henderson, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.3 million – Team Option ($3.1 million)
    Ray Allen, Boston Celtics – $10.0 million – Unrestricted
    Landry Fields, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Carlos Delfino, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.5 million – Unrestricted
    Louis Williams, Philadelphia 76ers – $5.2 million – Early Termination Option ($5.4 million)
    Mickael Pietrus, Boston Celtics – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Courtney Lee, Houston Rockets – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Rudy Fernandez, Denver Nuggets – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Xavier Henry, Memphis Grizzlies – $2.2 million – Team Option ($2.3 million)
    Damion James, New Jersey Nets – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.3 million)
    C.J. Miles, Utah Jazz – $3.7 million – Unrestricted
    Terrence Williams, Houston Rockets – $2.4 million – Team Option ($3.1 million)
    Jodie Meeks, Philadelphia 76ers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    James Anderson, San Antonio Spurs – $1.5 million – Team Option ($1.6 million)
    Matt Carroll, Charlotte Bobcats – $3.9 million – Early Termination Option ($3.5 million)
    Brandon Rush, Golden State Warriors – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jannero Pargo, Atlanta Hawks – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Alonzo Gee, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Jeremy Lin, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Danny Green, San Antonio Spurs – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    McGee? Realistically you have nothing behind him on the roster. So...
    Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic – $18.1 million – Early Termination Option ($19.5 million)
    Roy Hibbert, Indiana Pacers – $2.6 million – Restricted ($3.7 million Qualifying Offer)
    Andrew Bynum, L.A. Lakers – $14.9 million – Team Option ($16.1 million)
    Brook Lopez, New Jersey Nets – $3.1 million – Restricted ($4.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Chris Kaman, New Orleans Hornets – $12.7 million – Unrestricted
    Greg Monroe, Detroit Pistons – $3.0 million – Team Option ($3.2 million)
    JaVale McGee, Washington Wizards – $2.5 million – Restricted ($3.5 million Qualifying Offer)
    Marcus Camby, Portland Trail Blazers – $12.9 million – Unrestricted
    Robin Lopez, Phoenix Suns – $2.8 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jermaine O’Neal, Boston Celtics – $6.2 million – Unrestricted
    Nazr Mohammed, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.8 million – Unrestricted
    Omer Asik, Chicago Bulls – $1.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Semih Erden, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Ben Wallace, Detroit Pistons – $2.2 million – Unrestricted
    Mehmet Okur, New Jersey Nets – $10.9 million – Unrestricted
    Daniel Orton, Orlando Magic – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.2 million)
    Solomon Alabi, Toronto Raptors – $0.8 million – Team Option ($0.9 million)
    Hasheem Thabeet, Houston Rockets – $5.1 million – Team Option ($6.5 million)
    Kosta Koufos, Denver Nuggets – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    DeSagana Diop, Charlotte Bobcats – $6.9 million – Player Option ($7.4 million)
    Ryan Hollins, Cleveland Cavaliers – $2.5 million – Unrestricted
    *may not be up to date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    It would have to be a really good one considering our draft position. Sadly the FA class for SG and SF looks horrible.
    Rudy Gay is who pops into my mind....I've wanted to trade for him for the past couple years. Memphis did really well w/o him at the end of last year and in the playoffs, they might be willing to trade him for a lottery pick (especially since he has a large contract). Danny Granger could also be another target; although i'm not sure if the Pacers would part with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Bait View Post
    Rudy Gay is who pops into my mind....I've wanted to trade for him for the past couple years. Memphis did really well w/o him at the end of last year and in the playoffs, they might be willing to trade him for a lottery pick (especially since he has a large contract). Danny Granger could also be another target; although i'm not sure if the Pacers would part with him.
    For some reason I've never been sold on him. He's a player I'd be all for bringing in as a free agent but I wouldn't move a top pick in this upcoming draft for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    For some reason I've never been sold on him. He's a player I'd be all for bringing in as a free agent but I wouldn't move a top pick in this upcoming draft for him.
    Ruby is a good scorer, he can run the floor with an up and down team, he is a pretty good rebounder. He'd be a 20-7-3 guy on this team....I'll take it.

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