The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

[StillUnknown]

@YahooForde
Pat Forde
After watching Andre Drummond in person last night, he seriously needs another year of college basketball and coaching.

@YahooForde
Pat Forde
But if scouts think he's going to be a top-10 pick, he probably goes. If so, he will be a project. Tremendous talent, but so much to learn.

@YahooForde
Pat Forde
Against an energized opponent he was half-stepping for the 16 mins UConn let him play before benching him. Effort level needs 50 % upgrade


Been reading that kind of critique more and more on Drummond, which basically takes him off wish list for the Wizards.

[Destino]

I watched UConn and the entire team looked shockingly bad considering they have two potential lottery picks. Thier passing, shooting, and movement was bad. I found myself asking if they even practice.

[twenty-eight]

@YahooForde
Pat Forde
After watching Andre Drummond in person last night, he seriously needs another year of college basketball and coaching.

@YahooForde
Pat Forde
But if scouts think he's going to be a top-10 pick, he probably goes. If so, he will be a project. Tremendous talent, but so much to learn.

@YahooForde
Pat Forde
Against an energized opponent he was half-stepping for the 16 mins UConn let him play before benching him. Effort level needs 50 % upgrade


Been reading that kind of critique more and more on Drummond, which basically takes him off wish list for the Wizards.

Or fits in perfectly with the rest of the team. Ernie's gonna love this guy

[Samuels]

@YahooForde
Pat Forde
After watching Andre Drummond in person last night, he seriously needs another year of college basketball and coaching.

@YahooForde
Pat Forde
But if scouts think he's going to be a top-10 pick, he probably goes. If so, he will be a project. Tremendous talent, but so much to learn.

@YahooForde
Pat Forde
Against an energized opponent he was half-stepping for the 16 mins UConn let him play before benching him. Effort level needs 50 % upgrade


Been reading that kind of critique more and more on Drummond, which basically takes him off wish list for the Wizards.

Been saying that for a month he is lazy like a bigger Blatche.

[stevemcqueen1]

Rebounding doesn't get you on sportscenter.

We are in a really ****ty position with McGee. We can't let him walk because the other options are terrible but he is really not worth what he will get.

He's improved on a lot of things so hopefully rebounding is next on the list. You really can't have a center who is a ****ty rebounder, or at least if he doesn't rebound he knows how to box out. Haywood was a great example of this. He was a mediocre rebounder, but our rebounding with him on the floor was always good because he could box out very well.

Haywood was also gigantic. McGee has a weak base. His legs are skinny. He's never going to be a dominating post presence in an NBA where 260+ pounders roam the paint.

Why did we let Haywood go again? This is what we got in return for Haywood, Caron, and Stevenson: Josh Howard, Drew Gooden, Quinton Ross, and James Singleton...

Then again we probably couldn't have kept Haywood anyway. Per wikipedia, he signed a 6 year 55 million dollar deal with them last season. Yikes. I'd rather pay McGee that kind of money than Haywood.

---------- Post added February-7th-2012 at 07:08 PM ----------

I watched UConn and the entire team looked shockingly bad considering they have two potential lottery picks. Thier passing, shooting, and movement was bad. I found myself asking if they even practice.

Not to mention they're the defending National Champs.

I'm not crazy about Lamb and I'm really ambivalent on Drummond. He definitely does need to go back for another year.

But a big tourney changes the draft stock for anyone. It's still early.

[Gator Bait]

Been saying that for a month he is lazy like a bigger Blatche.

could be...I even heard he had these concerns coming into college...appears he hasn't changed his way and possibly never will.

We need to trade this pick for someone who will come in and create offense right away

[stevemcqueen1]

Also, I agree with taking Drummond of the wishlist based on what we've seen so far. We can't deal with that kind of player no matter the upside. We need a competitive, high IQ player period, whether he can come in and take over a starting role early or not.

My wish list is something like that:

1.) Anthony Davis
2.) Michael Kidd Gilchrist
3.) Jared Sullinger
4.) Harrison Barnes
5.) Bradley Beal
6.) Thomas Robinson
7.) Austin Rivers
8.) Quincy Miller
9.) Jeremy Lamb
10.) Perry Jones

We've got to get a second high lotto pick.

We could take a huge step forward just by drafting a PF/Wing pair like Sully/Robinson and Beal/Rivers/Miller.

[Thinking Skins]

The main thing i want in the lottery is a shooter with high basketball IQ, who can possibly take over a game. I think that's the definition of Harrison Barnes. And I think he's the perfect compliment to John Wall as well.

[Skin'emAlive]

The main thing i want in the lottery is a shooter with high basketball IQ, who can possibly take over a game. I think that's the definition of Harrison Barnes. And I think he's the perfect compliment to John Wall as well.

I completely agree. I want Wall, Barnes, Hi-Character Veteran, Cousins, and Mcgee as next years staring lineup.

[Samuels]

Also, I agree with taking Drummond of the wishlist based on what we've seen so far. We can't deal with that kind of player no matter the upside. We need a competitive, high IQ player period, whether he can come in and take over a starting role early or not.

My wish list is something like that:

1.) Anthony Davis
2.) Michael Kidd Gilchrist
3.) Jared Sullinger
4.) Harrison Barnes
5.) Bradley Beal
6.) Thomas Robinson
7.) Austin Rivers
8.) Quincy Miller
9.) Jeremy Lamb
10.) Perry Jones

We've got to get a second high lotto pick.

We could take a huge step forward just by drafting a PF/Wing pair like Sully/Robinson and Beal/Rivers/Miller.

Swap Beal for Lamb and thats my exact top 6 right now.

The main thing i want in the lottery is a shooter with high basketball IQ, who can possibly take over a game. I think that's the definition of Harrison Barnes. And I think he's the perfect compliment to John Wall as well.

I've watched quite a bit of Carolina this year and Barnes scares me. He has argueably been the 3rd best player on his own team. But he is'nt playing but like 26mpg. He won't be a superstar I'd think best case he can be a Danny Granger type player. He will be a good 3rd option on a very good team. The problem I have is we need a guy that can take over a game be a legit superstar. A guy you can give the ball to in crunch time and he can create his own shot. I don't even think Barnes is averaging 1 apg. Wall did this last night but he is'nt that type of alpha scorer and needs a legit dominant running mate.

Thomas Robinson has been fantastic but he did'nt do nothing his 1st 2 years hardly got to play. I know he was behind the Morris twins but what have they done this year?
I like kids that come in and play well as a true freshman like Sullinger, Barnes,Lamb,MKG,Beal and Davis this year.

My pipedream would be to trade McGee+ whoever else they wanted or possibly up to 3 1st rounders for Howard. Put Howard with Wall and some shooters with a great coach that team could do damage.

[stevemcqueen1]

Swap Beal for Lamb and thats my exact top 6 right now.

Lamb feels like a one trick pony to me and I think his build limits his upside a bit. Plus I feel like Uconn is massively underachieving and he's their best player. He needs to elevate his team to be elite IMO. Kemba did far more with less.

Beal does everything well and is a prototypical off guard who can be productive without the ball in his hands. He's a terrific shooter with an extremely high offensive IQ and he's an outstanding rebounder for a 2 guard and has a very strong build. I could see him being the steal of the draft. I'd take him over any other two in the class unless we're talking about playing MKG at the 2.

I've watched quite a bit of Carolina this year and Barnes scares me. He has argueably been the 3rd best player on his own team. But he is'nt playing but like 26mpg. He won't be a superstar I'd think best case he can be a Danny Granger type player. He will be a good 3rd option on a very good team. The problem I have is we need a guy that can take over a game be a legit superstar. A guy you can give the ball to in crunch time and he can create his own shot. I don't even think Barnes is averaging 1 apg. Wall did this last night but he is'nt that type of alpha scorer and needs a legit dominant running mate.

Thomas Robinson has been fantastic but he did'nt do nothing his 1st 2 years hardly got to play. I know he was behind the Morris twins but what have they done this year?
I like kids that come in and play well as a true freshman like Sullinger, Barnes,Lamb,MKG,Beal and Davis this year.

My pipedream would be to trade McGee+ whoever else they wanted or possibly up to 3 1st rounders for Howard. Put Howard with Wall and some shooters with a great coach that team could do damage.

Lamb is actually a sophomore. He really didn't do a whole lot as a Freshman until very late in the year.

Barnes hasn't lived up to his high school hype. Preseason All American his freshman season was ridiculously premature in hindsight. He's got a good IQ, projects to be a solid perimeter defender who rebounds fairly well and has a versatile offensive skill set but you're right, he's rarely dominant at the college level. Danny Granger is a fairly close projection but Barnes will never be as strong as Granger is. Too narrow of a build. I'd be OK with drafting Barnes but he wouldn't excite me. I think there's little chance he ends up being a bust but also little chance he ends up being a star. Luol Deng.

Re: Robinson, he's a junior but you can't kill him for not getting burn in a loaded Kansas program his first two years. It's the nature of the program. Their recruits sit and learn. What Robinson is doing now is impressive and he's got a steady, translatable game. He's one of the best players in the country and has a classic PF skillset. I doubt he's a star in the NBA, but in the right system, he's almost assuredly going to be a good player. We could seriously use his rebounding ability.

He and Sully are very close. Sully gets the nod for me for being a year younger and way bigger, but Robinson would be a nice consolation.

I don't think the Magic are going to trade Dwight Howard. I can't see them getting the right package in return to make it worth their while and I don't think they'd trade him to a division opponent for anything we could offer.

[shuler74]

I was never a big fan of barnes but I am intrigued to see him covert himself to a 2 guard.

[Destino]

So wasn't this supposed to be a stacked draft? I feel like Derrick Williams from last year had a more complete and reliable game then everyone I've looked at this season. I wonder what impact the Euros will have on this class because you know some will crack the top 10.

[Gator Bait]

I completely agree. I want Wall, Barnes, Hi-Character Veteran, Cousins, and Mcgee as next years staring lineup.

I'm dying laughing. Is the high character veteran to keep Cousins in line? I don't think it is possible. I don't want Cousins anywhere near this team. I will take your Veteran for my lottery pick though. Time for this team to get more experienced....we don't need another rookie that is going to take 3 years to develop.