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[RonArtest15]

Folks still cool with passing up Kenneth Faried?

---------- Post added March-4th-2012 at 11:16 PM ----------

I had fools telling me I was crazy wanting Faried at 18 ... man.

I'm just grinning to myself.

If we didn't have Booker, Faried would have made sense. The two of them on the roster would have been redundant.

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Folks still cool with passing up Kenneth Faried?

---------- Post added March-4th-2012 at 11:16 PM ----------

I had fools telling me I was crazy wanting Faried at 18 ... man.

I'm just grinning to myself.

I really wanted this guy. But I also think Singleton is going to develop into a really good perimeter defender, so I'm glad we have him.

[the burgundy and gold]

^ Haha I was just saying that in the NBA thread. Dude is a beast, much better than Singleton.

haha I'm not worried about Singleton, what about Jan?

[StillUnknown]

Kevin Hine
‏ @KevinHineWoA
One player in the entire NBA averages 17 points, 7 assists, and 5 rebounds per game. That one player -- John Wall. #Wizards

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Kevin Hine
‏ @KevinHineWoA
One player in the entire NBA averages 17 points, 7 assists, and 5 rebounds per game. That one player -- John Wall. #Wizards

Bust

[MLSKINS]

Kevin Hine
‏ @KevinHineWoA
One player in the entire NBA averages 17 points, 7 assists, and 5 rebounds per game. That one player -- John Wall. #Wizards

[sarcasm]

What does that have to him being a leader?

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free lower to tonight's game ....first person to PM me their email address...I'll email pdf tickets

---------- Post added March-5th-2012 at 04:33 PM ----------

Bust

LOL over/under 197....how many times GACOLB references Bust to anything John Wall in the next 2 years.

[StillUnknown]

One of my friend's is hooking me up with ticket tonight, first time I'll get to see Wall live.

The couple of times I was in the area last season, he was out with injuries.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

LOL over/under 197....how many times GACOLB references Bust to anything John Wall in the next 2 years.

I'm sorry, I understand how I was getting annoying about Javale and I really am chilling on that, but I'll NEVER be able to get over the Wall=bust talk. I still have those posters on ignore. Absolutely nothing they say that I can take serious after that.

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One of my friend's is hooking me up with ticket tonight, first time I'll get to see Wall live.

The couple of times I was in the area last season, he was out with injuries.

damn...shame I'm not going to the game....would have loved to meet up with you before the game....you are one of the ES members I respect most when it comes to sports...you know your **** about them all....boxing, basketball, football etc....

---------- Post added March-5th-2012 at 04:37 PM ----------

I'm sorry, I understand how I was getting annoying about Javale and I really am chilling on that, but I'll NEVER be able to get over the Wall=bust talk. I still have those posters on ignore. Absolutely nothing they say that I can take serious after that.

this isn't a dig at you dude....I love it!

---------- Post added March-5th-2012 at 04:53 PM ----------

tickets are gone...I'll post if I get more games in the future

[skinfan2k]

Kevin Hine
‏ @KevinHineWoA
One player in the entire NBA averages 17 points, 7 assists, and 5 rebounds per game. That one player -- John Wall. #Wizards

what a made up stat lol. i bet you if you change the criteria only a little to say 16 8 and 5 it would be more lol

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

i bet you if you change the criteria only a little to say 16 8 and 5 it would be more lol

Nope. 16 8 3 gives you Paul and Parker.

[stevemcqueen1]

I'm sorry, I understand how I was getting annoying about Javale and I really am chilling on that, but I'll NEVER be able to get over the Wall=bust talk. I still have those posters on ignore. Absolutely nothing they say that I can take serious after that.

I enjoy this actually. Call me vindictive but I was on your side in the Wall debate and I like seeing you rub egg in the faces of his now quiet detractors. I don't even remember who it was specifically, but I remember the knee jerk sentiment being big, even around here, but particularly in the national conversation.

That said, LeBron is averaging 27.8, 8.4, and 6.8 so making the cutoff point at seven assists seems a little self serving for Wizards fans.

But the larger point hinted at is a good one. John has quietly become one of the best rebounding point guards in the NBA. That alone is extremely encouraging to me. Not only does it speak to his length and athleticism, but it demonstrates heart, hustle, and IQ IMO, things that will dribble over into the other parts of his game as he continues to gain skill and experience.

---------- Post added March-5th-2012 at 05:25 PM ----------

I really wanted this guy. But I also think Singleton is going to develop into a really good perimeter defender, so I'm glad we have him.

I'm in the same boat. I liked both of them.

Given the choice though, I probably still take Singleton over Faried today even with early season hindsight. Singleton's speed is so rare and he's long for his position. Faried has looked better early, but he's undersized and has less upside.

[Destino]

While that stat line is meaningless without including the stats that speak to efficiency, as a wizards fan I'm more than happy to look at the bright side! It gets even better if you look at february:

John Wall
19.2ppg 8.6apg 4.6rpg

---------- Post added March-5th-2012 at 06:06 PM ----------

I enjoy this actually. Call me vindictive but I was on your side in the Wall debate and I like seeing you rub egg in the faces of his now quiet detractors. I don't even remember who it was specifically, but I remember the knee jerk sentiment being big, even around here, but particularly in the national conversation.

That said, LeBron is averaging 27.8, 8.4, and 6.8 so making the cutoff point at seven assists seems a little self serving for Wizards fans.

But the larger point hinted at is a good one. John has quietly become one of the best rebounding point guards in the NBA. That alone is extremely encouraging to me. Not only does it speak to his length and athleticism, but it demonstrates heart, hustle, and IQ IMO, things that will dribble over into the other parts of his game as he continues to gain skill and experience.

I don't really care so much about PG rebounds because to me that's deep on the list of strengths I'm looking for. Scoring (points and efficiency), passing (assists and A:T ratio), floor leadership, and perimeter defense are all above rebounding on my list for a star potential point guard. Wall's scoring is improving but he still can't shoot. His assist number is improving and will explode once he gets more help but his turnovers are still high. His leadership isn't something I've been all that impressed with so far and I don't see him thriving as a team captain just yet. His perimeter defense is crap more often than not but the entire team suffers similarly so I'm not prepared to say it's all on him.

Having said that if you watch this kid play and think bust you're out of your mind. I don't think his ceiling as high as the physical freaks in the league like Durant, Dirk, and Lebron all of which do things human beings their size simply aren't supposed to be able to do on a basketball court. I do think he has the potential to be just below them however in the list of superstars that God didn't bless with superpowers.

I'm in the same boat. I liked both of them.

Given the choice though, I probably still take Singleton over Faried today even with early season hindsight. Singleton's speed is so rare and he's long for his position. Faried has looked better early, but he's undersized and has less upside.

Singleton concerns me more than most on this board. I've not been impressed with this defense as much as I was expecting.

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what a made up stat lol. i bet you if you change the criteria only a little to say 16 8 and 5 it would be more lol

key number is the assists number .....bring that down a few tenths of a point