The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[Destino]

Crawford has played well the past several games. The offense desperately needs his shotmaking now.

Right now we have no options but Crawford is a combo guard with a gunner play style. He is not an ideal starter at the SG spot and makes much more sense coming off the bench. I'd like a more ideal fit at SG as a starter, some length and ability to cut without the ball would be nice.

Harden is the only available option but I don't see the thunder letting him go anywhere.

Thomas Robinson will probably measure in at 6'8ish without shoes which is considered undersized these days by scouts for a PF.

[stevemcqueen1]

Right now we have no options but Crawford is a combo guard with a gunner play style. He is not an ideal starter at the SG spot and makes much more sense coming off the bench. I'd like a more ideal fit at SG as a starter, some length and ability to cut without the ball would be nice.

Harden is the only available option but I don't see the thunder letting him go anywhere.

Thomas Robinson will probably measure in at 6'8ish without shoes which is considered undersized these days by scouts for a PF.

I like Crawford in the starting role with Wall. They have excellent chemistry with each other and Crawford greatly benefits from coming in and making some shots early in the game.

Crawford is also the only guy left on the team that can consistently get his own shots, even more so than Wall can.

Robinson measured 6'10 in shoes at the LBJ skills academy weigh in. I doubt he loses two inches without shoes. ~1" difference is to be expected and 1.5" is probably the most he'll lose.

6'8.5" w/o shoes is not undersized for a PF, it's prototypical. Blake Griffin measured 6'8.5" w/o shoes at the combine. Robinson has a nearly identical build, except that his arms are almost two inches longer.

Hardly matters a ton how tall Robinson is though because he has a 7'1 wingspan which is longer than average. He's also strapped together like an NFL player. He'll have top tier defensive potential in the NBA because of his length and strength and be able to muscle people around in his rookie season. To me, he's the physical prototype for the pick and roll PF.

[Samuels]

Me too. Even kind of looks like him. He's been better in college than Gordon was though. And he's a better all around player and better at working off the ball. Gordon is a better ball handler though. Gator compared Beal to Ray Allen and I can see some of that as a sort of best case scenario.

Beal would be a really nice pick. But I think we need more help at forward, particularly power forward. Things got bad last night when Booker got into foul trouble and we just couldn't rebound.

We need Davis most of all, but I don't see it happening. Thomas Robinson's big body would make a difference day one for us. As would Sully most likely. He understands positioning well and boxes out and pulls down a lot of boards.

If we do go with a wing, Beal and MKG are both plus rebounders for their positions, but they're not really an intimidating glass cleaning presence that I'm looking for.

Barnes also makes sense for us, not so much as a rebounder, but because he can catch and shoot and work off the ball and fits within the scheme of our offense. Crawford and Wall will be dominating the ball among the starters. Barnes can shoot threes, offer a nice outlet, and get his points without needing to put the ball on the court. It's the same appeal Beal has, except Barnes can see the floor at the same time as Crawford whereas one of Beal or Crawford has to go to the bench.

And at this point, Crawford is a considerably more valuable starter than either Singleton or Vesely would be at the 3.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 01:43 PM ----------



Yeah probably. We need quality over quantity at this point. If we go Beal, then we should probably trade Jordan to see if we can't recoup something at a different position. Crawford doesn't thrive as well coming off the bench because he needs to get into a rhythm early in the game like he did the past two nights. So try and deal Crawford to get another draft pick and look for a developmental forward.

I love Beal, and I'm going to toot my own horn and say I think either me or Gator was the first to really get behind him in this thread. But I think taking him doesn't utilize this draft class as well as we could by focusing on other positions.

I'd rather go PF or Barnes early and then try and trade back into the first to take a SG like Adonis Thomas. Keep Crawford in the starting role to see what he becomes, move either Booker or Singleton to the bench as a super sub (depending on if we took Sully, Robinson, or Barnes), and feature this quality group:

1 - Wall, Mack
2 - Crawford, Thomas, Mason
3 - Singleton, Vesely, Thomas
4 - Robinson, Booker, Vesely, Seraphin
5 - Nene, Seraphin

A three guard lineup with Wall, Crawford, Mack isn't good. A front court of Vesely and Seraphin isn't good either. I don't know who Ubiles is, but seems like he shouldn't be getting much burn. I'd rather see us scrap the three guard lineup altogether and put Thomas on the floor with Crawford and Wall if we want speed without giving up size and defensive ability.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 02:18 PM ----------



You can't penalize T-Rob for not getting PT on Kansas. That's a power program that wins 30 games a year and seniority is emphasized. The Morris twins were great college players and were both lottery picks besides. It doesn't happen the same way for everyone. All of those freshmen came in and had an opportunity to play right away whereas I don't think T-Rob had that opportunity until this year. DX had a good point where Robinson was actually the second best per minute rebounder in their database as a sophomore, he just didn't get much burn to get national attention.

As far as the size goes, I don't see this being a huge problem for him. He measured 6'10 in shoes and has a 7'1 wingspan. He's built like a tank too with low body fat and has a build that is really reminiscent of Blake Griffin. When you've got guys like Paul Millsap and even our own Trevor Booker doing well measuring just over 6'6 without shoes, Robinson actually seems tall. My guess is he's somewhere between 6'8.5 and 6'9 without shoes on, which is actually the same height as Blake Griffin, only T-Rob has a longer wingspan.

All the freshman play at elite programs the Morris twins while solid are'nt anything special at the college or NBA level. Marcus was a good player but Markieff got drafted that high on size.

Sully would have started has a true freshman at Kansas and got major minutes or any other school same with Davis, MKG, Beal, Lamb etc. TROB was barely getting burn at all.

Listen I like him alot but i'd be suprised if he truly measures 6-8 and over 230lbs. I would'nt take over the younger guys who have been the man all throughout HS and from day 1 in college to me there upside is higher but again my opinion could be swayed.

Hopefully we get to see him againest Carolinas frontline this weekend.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 11:12 PM ----------

The more I've watched of Beal the more I want him in DC. He just reminds me a lot of Eric Gordon when watching him.

Hey Dukes I finally found your name on twitter and followed you. Mine was @RRose78

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 11:13 PM ----------

The more I've watched of Beal the more I want him in DC. He just reminds me a lot of Eric Gordon when watching him.

Hey Dukes I finally found your name on twitter and followed you. Mine was @RRose78

[Destino]

Jones III really couldn't be more unimpressive in the tourney. He doesn't appear to have any fire in him.

[stevemcqueen1]

Yeah. PJIII is just meh. He somehow appears to play hard without really doing anything or making much of an impact.

[StillUnknown]

Jones III really couldn't be more unimpressive in the tourney. He doesn't appear to have any fire in him.

Lots of Lamar Odom in him, all the potential in the world, none of the desire to really seize it.


Not liking what I'm seeing from Barnes tonight at all.

[stevemcqueen1]

Barnes choked on that three. Stupid shot choice, terrible execution. Luckily Bullock dug them out.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 09:46 PM ----------

I keep talking myself into Barnes in my mind. Then every time I sit down to actually watch him play I'm disappointed. I'm about done trying to convince myself he's an ideal choice.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 09:49 PM ----------

Be interesting to see who gets this last shot. If it's not Barnes, then that says worlds about him.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 09:50 PM ----------

Barnes choked again.

[StillUnknown]

I'm not taking Barnes in the top 5

[stevemcqueen1]

Good mid range pull up from Barnes there. That's his range and his shot.

Still, once again, I get the feeling Henson is UNC's best player and prospect.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 09:57 PM ----------

WTF Barnes?

[Destino]

Barnes is 3/16 and has only shot two free throws. Even Crawford would be ashamed of that stat line.

[stevemcqueen1]

1.) Davis
2.) MKG
3.) Robinson
4.) Sullinger
5.) Beal
6.) Barnes

Good move from Barnes though, good job making the free throws.

[Destino]

Zeller has 23 rebounds? What?

[skinfan2k]

Barnes is not a ball handler. he can't create his own shot. Thats why putting him with Wall would be deadly.

[stevemcqueen1]

Barnes is not a ball handler. he can't create his own shot. Thats why putting him with Wall would be deadly.

I don't think the first part of your statement translates into anything positive.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 10:07 PM ----------

Barnes feels like UNC's third or fourth best player every time I watch him. It's getting to the point where I'd rather just trade back into the mid to late first and take Adonis Thomas or Quincy Miller instead of Barnes in the top five.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 10:10 PM ----------

Davis can't shoot eh?

---------- Post added March-23rd-2012 at 10:11 PM ----------

Beautiful pass from Davis.

[Destino]

Barnes is not a ball handler. he can't create his own shot. Thats why putting him with Wall would be deadly.

I wouldn't draft any players that can't create there own offense unless I had no choice.