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    Quote Originally Posted by Vishal View Post
    Ernie had something that no other GM under Abe had. He had much more control of the team.

    I'm sick of the Abe excuse. Did some of you see the guy in his last couple of years? He gave Ernie a blank check to assemble a veteran team and Ernie got him Darius Songalia, DeShawn Stevenson, Mike Miller and Randy Foye.
    And as much as Gilbert Arenas did for this franchise, he should have NEVER been given that 111 mil deal coming off of 2 surgeries and a 3rd on the horizon. Completely idiotic. Big 3 should have been blown up right then and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonArtest15 View Post
    And as much as Gilbert Arenas did for this franchise, he should have NEVER been given that 111 mil deal coming off of 2 surgeries and a 3rd on the horizon. Completely idiotic. Big 3 should have been blown up right then and there.
    I seem to remember pretty much EVERYONE wanting to resign Gilbert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.C.O.L.B. View Post
    I seem to remember pretty much EVERYONE wanting to resign Gilbert.
    Not everyone.

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    I don't fault him for Gilbert. It was a risky decision every GM makes. The upside was that you had a top 10 player in the NBA.

    The problem was always building around Gilbert. The depth on those teams was always terrible. No bench production from guards or bigs.

    Those teams won because Gilbert was THAT good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.C.O.L.B. View Post
    I seem to remember pretty much EVERYONE wanting to resign Gilbert.
    I must have been in the minority, because i thought it was idiotic to give that type of contract to a man coming off of two major knee surgeries (with a third on the way).

    It's water under the bridge though....but if this team had started re-building back in 2008, I wonder what they'd look like today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by endzone_dave View Post
    Why can't Wall shoot jump shots? The little kids at the half-time show were shooting from the outside better than him. He'd be soooo good if he could shoot.
    Yeah it seems like his jumper has regressed throughout the season. A few months back it seemed like he had turned the corner with it but I haven't seen him hit one in what feels like 3-4 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.C.O.L.B. View Post
    Lamb declared already. Drummond expected to make an announcement today or tomorrow. I can't see him going back but who knows.

    http://boston.sbnation.com/2012/4/10...ay-or-thursday
    I think the 14th is the deadline.

    I don't think the Kentucky guys have officially declared yet either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.C.O.L.B. View Post
    I've been saying the same for a couple of years now. I just think people act like Ernie is on Wes' level and I don't think it's even close. We could do a lot worse than Ernie.
    Certainly. But we could do a lot better. I've been reading all of the articles about the Spurs organization, about OKC, and Pat Riley that I can find. It's amazing stuff.

    I don't get the sense that our FO is anywhere close to their league.

    The NBA is pretty uncompetitive compared to the rest of the major sports leagues. There is a strong line between the haves and have nots--franchises with total winning percentages almost three hundred points higher than others. There is the small handful of franchises that run the show and then about an equal number of jobbers.

    We are most definitely a jobber. We're a filler team that the good teams use to pad their records and tune up for the truly competitive games.

    We can't pull ourselves up by the bootstraps with a mediocre to subpar front office. We, more than anyone else, need to be on the cutting edge of management and leadership if we want to elevate ourselves into the upper echelon of the league. I can never see that happening with Ernie. I do think he's filled the cupboard pretty well with some young talent. But I don't trust him to make the next step and develop that talent into a winning organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonArtest15 View Post
    Wizards can't afford to take another "project" in Drummond (at the #2), when you have LEGIT NBA-ready players in MKG or Robinson sitting right there for the taking. Taking Drummond with Nene on the roster and with Seraphin's improvement, would be a colossal mistake.
    Both MKG and Robinson are a work in progress on the offensive end too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemcqueen1 View Post
    I think the 14th is the deadline.

    I don't think the Kentucky guys have officially declared yet either.

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    Certainly. But we could do a lot better. I've been reading all of the articles about the Spurs organization, about OKC, and Pat Riley that I can find. It's amazing stuff.

    I don't get the sense that our FO is anywhere close to their league.

    The NBA is pretty uncompetitive compared to the rest of the major sports leagues. There is a strong line between the haves and have nots--franchises with total winning percentages almost three hundred points higher than others. There is the small handful of franchises that run the show and then about an equal number of jobbers.

    We are most definitely a jobber. We're a filler team that the good teams use to pad their records and tune up for the truly competitive games.

    We can't pull ourselves up by the bootstraps with a mediocre to subpar front office. We, more than anyone else, need to be on the cutting edge of management and leadership if we want to elevate ourselves into the upper echelon of the league. I can never see that happening with Ernie. I do think he's filled the cupboard pretty well with some young talent. But I don't trust him to make the next step and develop that talent into a winning organization.

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    Both MKG and Robinson are a work in progress on the offensive end too.
    Not nearly on the level of Drummond, and outside of Davis, you can make a case for those two being the most NBA-Ready out of those who have declared for the draft.

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    I think Drummond will be a top 3 pick if he declares. There isn't much reason for him to stay in school considering that. Especially since UConn is a program in transition and Calhoun is eyeing retirement.

    Personally, I would go Davis and MKG ahead of Drummond. But when you start getting into the Robinson, Sully, Drummond, Beal, Barnes tier, things get dicier. There is no question that Drummond has significantly higher upside than any of those other guys.

    Personality considerations aside, Drummond is easily the best choice for us at #2 overall. He could be a franchise changer. Obviously personality considerations are a factor but I question how much we can know about that sort of thing from our position.

    I'm kind of at the point where if we get the third pick, it'll be a major disappointment anyway. Why not swing for the fences with Drummond? What's the worst that can happen, we stay as bad as we already are? We're kind of at rock bottom.
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/1...-on-the-market

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    Record wise we may be at rock bottom, but I don't think we are. With a talent like Wall, we really need one or two solid additions to immediately go from the bottom to at least the lower 6-8 seed level.

    I really really hope we pursue James Harden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mboyd784 View Post
    Not everyone.
    Yeah I actually remember you being against it. If RonArtest15 says he was too, I have no reason not to believe him. But a big majority of people wanted to resign him. You gotta remember, Gilbert had given us Wiz fans the best seasons of our lives. And the last time he had really played, he was in full-blown Hibachi mode. Hitting game winners seemingly every week. We loved him. We didn't want to lose him. And you remember the big deal people made because he gave up like $12 mil? Yeah, definitely a majority were for resigning him.

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    I'm going to post something and I want to just get reactions:

    Jordan Crawford = Nick Young 2.0

    Honest reaction. I'll expand/explain later

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    I wouldn't go that far.

    Crawford has an overall skillset that is better than Young's, I think he's still struggling between finding that balance of getting his opportunities and setting up others, which isn't abnormal for a player still relatively new to the league. In flashes, he's shown himself to be a pretty good passer, he just doesn't think that far ahead on a consistent basis.

    Ideally, I would rather him being an instant scorer off the bench, but I'm not ready to lock him to being NY 2.0 right now. I think there's still hope for him if we get a real coach to get inside his head.

    Nick was one dimensional, and not all that good at that particular dimension.
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    I don't think Jordan is like Nick Young. I think he's less selfish, a better passer, cares more, has legit on court chemistry with John and is liked by his teammates.

    Nick is so west coast and he was a clown like JaVale. I don't get that sense from Jordan.
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