The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[RonArtest15]

It'll be Barnes.

LOL..incarcerated bob = biggest hack on twitter.

That herb is confirming what everyone has been saying all along. SMH.

[Dave25]

It has to be Beal or bust for the Wiz that's obvious.

[TaylorPickSix]

If it was a matter of talent, then OKC would keep Harden. The only SG's who had a better PER than Harden were Wade, Kobe and Ginobili. Now PER can be a useless stat for some positions, but it's a fairly good indicator for SG's.

James Harden is a TERRIFIC player. I'm going to be ecstatic if we trade for him and I'll likely revise my opinion of that horrendous Okafor and Ariza trade. This team badly needs a scorer and shooter like Harden.

That's true. I'm not sure what his actual stats were and I'm too lazy to look at the moment, but he seemed absolutely deadly from beyond the arc during the playoffs. I know he hit a couple cold streaks in the finals.

[No Excuses]

That's true. I'm not sure what his actual stats were and I'm too lazy to look at the moment, but he seemed absolutely deadly from beyond the arc during the playoffs. I know he hit a couple cold streaks in the finals.

I think his finals performance dropped his stock a bit, and he may have even soured on the OKC brass.

This is interesting to me because I think this potentially might be the best deal OKC can get for him. It's not a given that another team in next years top 3 will have such a glaring need for a clear #2 option.

[Mr Awesome]

Anyone going to that draft party tomorrow? I thought it looked kinda cool...will probably head there after work for a drink or two....check out the cheerleaders, etc. Not too excited about our potential pick though.

All this draft talk and no one is going? For shame Wizard fans...for shame

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

All this draft talk and no one is going? For shame Wizard fans...for shame

As I said, I have VIP tickets. And I STILL have one extra one. It's become depressing trying to give this **** away. If anyone is interested, PM me.

[Mr Awesome]

As I said, I have VIP tickets. And I STILL have one extra one. It's become depressing trying to give this **** away. If anyone is interested, PM me.

How much do you want for it and what do you get with it? *fingers crossed it involves sexual activity with a Wiz cheerleader to be!*

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

How much do you want for it and what do you get with it? *fingers crossed it involves sexual activity with a Wiz cheerleader to be!*

I don't want **** for it. I'm just trying to find someone to ride with (or meet me there). I've had multiple people take it and then fake on me hours later. Free food, free drink and you get to hobnob with ex-players and other local celebs.

[Mr Awesome]

I don't want **** for it. I'm just trying to find someone to ride with (or meet me there). I've had multiple people take it and then fake on me hours later. Free food, free drink and you get to hobnob with ex-players and other local celebs.

I'm down like Charlie Brown. I can meet you there after work.

[stevemcqueen1]

You give Harden a max deal, he's 27/28 when it expires. Harden is every bit as good of a ball-handler as GInobili. He can do EVERYTHING the same as him. Now, I will give you that he's not as good of a defender, but on the offensive end there isn't much of a difference.

That's crazy talk. The guy who can't go right is as good a ball handler as one of the absolute best in the business? You've lost perspective on Harden RA. You aren't seeing his flaws.

And FWIW, in this current CBA, James Harden is a max-contract type of player.

Harden is a third option sixth man on a good team coming off a year where he averaged 17 PPG. What screams max contract about that to you? You are wildly overrating him.

The only time a team signs a player to a max type deal and doesn't almost immediately regret it is when that player is a Superstar wing or a perennial All Star scoring big. Harden is neither of those things and never will be. Sign a guy to a max deal who isn't worth it and it ruins your franchise for years.

Speaking of Joe Johnson, there isn't a chance in hell I'm taking JJ over Harden right now. One is on the decline, and the other is on the upswing. Also, I'd be willing to revisit this when Harden reaches his prime....but, I have ZERO doubt that he'll be 10x the better player than JJ when comparing careers.

Harden has a very long way to go before he reaches JJ's level. JJ is a six time All Star, has been the go to guy on his team, has had multiple 20+ PPG seasons and has been a hair away from multiple 20/5/5 seasons, and is a high quality defender against every perimeter position.

Harden's upside isn't as high as you think RA. He's a below average athlete for his position, which limits him. He'll become a better defender and probably become a better ball handler in time, but other than that, he's not going to get a whole lot better than he is now. And one thing is for sure, he'll never be in a better position than he is right now, playing third fiddle to two great young offensive players in OKC.

---------- Post added June-28th-2012 at 12:37 PM ----------

As I said, I have VIP tickets. And I STILL have one extra one. It's become depressing trying to give this **** away. If anyone is interested, PM me.

It's times like this I wish I lived in the D.C. area. I would have probably be interested in going but I knew I could never make it up there from down here.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

The Thunder are clearly looking to sell high on Harden. If you can turn a player that you are probably losing next year anyway into a top 4 pick in a loaded draft...well....bully for you.

The thing for the Thunder is they don't have to worry about all the things the Wizards are worrying about. Who cares if MKG can't shoot? Who cares if Barnes is a bit of a head case? They are going to be asking supremely talented players to be the 4th or 5th guy on a Championship Level team. The Wizards would need MKG to make five all star teams. The Thunder would need him to annoy Kobe or Wayne over a seven game series. Which one of those has the better chance of occurring?

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

From Chad Ford, via BF:



http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/6...zards#comments

If possible and if the b-ball Gods are on our side, the Wizards will trade the #3/#32 with Charlotte for the #2. They would then trade the #2 (plus filler) to OKC for Harden.

This would be the absolute best-case scenario tonight, and one that would (and should) leave Wizards fans VERY happy.

Whatttttt? Are you serious?

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Nevermind.



Fake twitter post I think.

[stevemcqueen1]

Why wouldn't the Bobcats just outright make the trade with OKC themselves?

Because Harden isn't good enough to rebuild around.

[Hersh]

With any NBA draft, anything in the top 5 should be star players, especially at 3. At 6 and 11, there should be growing pains. Example: Luck and Griffin are projected immediate starters and stars. Tannehill at 8 has questions and may not even start.

Unfortunately that's not how the NBA works. If it did, the Wizards wouldn't be in the lottery still. In the NBA, it's rare that more than a couple of players in any draft become all-star level players.


I'm going to start to temper my excitement about getting Beal, let alone Harden. I'm gonna start thinking worst case scenario and we trade our #3 pick for Metta World Peace thus anything better than that with the Wizards tonight and I'm happy.