It has to be Beal or bust for the Wiz that's obvious.
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This is interesting to me because I think this potentially might be the best deal OKC can get for him. It's not a given that another team in next years top 3 will have such a glaring need for a clear #2 option.
Harden is a third option sixth man on a good team coming off a year where he averaged 17 PPG. What screams max contract about that to you? You are wildly overrating him.And FWIW, in this current CBA, James Harden is a max-contract type of player.
The only time a team signs a player to a max type deal and doesn't almost immediately regret it is when that player is a Superstar wing or a perennial All Star scoring big. Harden is neither of those things and never will be. Sign a guy to a max deal who isn't worth it and it ruins your franchise for years.
Harden has a very long way to go before he reaches JJ's level. JJ is a six time All Star, has been the go to guy on his team, has had multiple 20+ PPG seasons and has been a hair away from multiple 20/5/5 seasons, and is a high quality defender against every perimeter position.Speaking of Joe Johnson, there isn't a chance in hell I'm taking JJ over Harden right now. One is on the decline, and the other is on the upswing. Also, I'd be willing to revisit this when Harden reaches his prime....but, I have ZERO doubt that he'll be 10x the better player than JJ when comparing careers.
Harden's upside isn't as high as you think RA. He's a below average athlete for his position, which limits him. He'll become a better defender and probably become a better ball handler in time, but other than that, he's not going to get a whole lot better than he is now. And one thing is for sure, he'll never be in a better position than he is right now, playing third fiddle to two great young offensive players in OKC.
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The Thunder are clearly looking to sell high on Harden. If you can turn a player that you are probably losing next year anyway into a top 4 pick in a loaded draft...well....bully for you.
The thing for the Thunder is they don't have to worry about all the things the Wizards are worrying about. Who cares if MKG can't shoot? Who cares if Barnes is a bit of a head case? They are going to be asking supremely talented players to be the 4th or 5th guy on a Championship Level team. The Wizards would need MKG to make five all star teams. The Thunder would need him to annoy Kobe or Wayne over a seven game series. Which one of those has the better chance of occurring?
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I'm going to start to temper my excitement about getting Beal, let alone Harden. I'm gonna start thinking worst case scenario and we trade our #3 pick for Metta World Peace thus anything better than that with the Wizards tonight and I'm happy.
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