The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

I never said defense wasnt, just like its the case for centers, power forwards, small forwards, and 2 guards.


But Irving runs their offense better than Wall does.

[StillUnknown]

I hope I have power tuesday night, I'd hate to miss the season opener.

[Fight4RGIII]

Mack and Cook gone.

[stevemcqueen1]

I never said defense wasnt, just like its the case for centers, power forwards, small forwards, and 2 guards.


But Irving runs their offense better than Wall does.

That's a different claim though. He's an extremely efficient scorer and shooter and pretty efficient all around offensive player. But I'm not sure you can truly say he's running that offense like a traditional PG. His assist totals and PPR are low and his scoring is high, demonstrating his primary offensive role is scoring.

That's much different than John's role. John is ideally the first offensive option too, but a much bigger emphasis is put on him passing the ball and facilitating teammates. John is a better passer than Irving by a pretty wide margin, a better facilitator, he's more in the mold of the traditional PG. Wall's PPRs are much higher than Kyrie's. He had a 3.97 this year (34th) and a 4.53 his rookie season (19th), whereas Kyrie's PPR was a 1.38 (62nd).

Kyrie's assist to turnover ratio was also worse at 1.72 to Wall's 2.08 demonstrating he's a less efficient passer.

[MonkFan8]

Mack and Cook gone.

Pretty surprising to me on both counts. Not a huge Mack fan, but I don't see Pargo being any better. Mack is a capable backup but really lacks any sort of speed to make him effective against NBA starters. Still would have kept him around at Pargo's expense.

Cook I thought played his way into a roster spot given our injuries to the big men.

Meh, not the first Wizards personnel move that has surprised me.

[StillUnknown]

Pretty surprising to me on both counts. Not a huge Mack fan, but I don't see Pargo being any better. Mack is a capable backup but really lacks any sort of speed to make him effective against NBA starters. Still would have kept him around at Pargo's expense.

Cook I thought played his way into a roster spot given our injuries to the big men.

Meh, not the first Wizards personnel move that has surprised me.

I'm not surprised by either move.

If Brian Cook is on your roster, you are either a championship contender or a bottom feeder. He literally has nothing to offer a team with the exception of a line drive 3pt shot that he doesn't make with any consistency.

I think Mack sealed his fate in the summer league, he looked like he didn't belong, probably destroyed any confidence the front office had in him.

[Thinking Skins]

Pretty surprising to me on both counts. Not a huge Mack fan, but I don't see Pargo being any better. Mack is a capable backup but really lacks any sort of speed to make him effective against NBA starters. Still would have kept him around at Pargo's expense.

Cook I thought played his way into a roster spot given our injuries to the big men.

Meh, not the first Wizards personnel move that has surprised me.

I felt like both move could go either way. I'm not a fan of Cook and his no inside game game, but I don't think that our 14th and 15th guys on the roster will be the difference in us being a lottery team or not. I've liked Mack, but I don't think he has a real future. We'd just be holding onto him for the same reason we kept a bunch of other non-NBA type guys - loyalty. and that's no reason to keep a guy. I thought Barron showed more potential in that last game and that Pargo, limited as his PG skills are, showed that he can be a better scorer than Mack and that's really important on this team.

[MonkFan8]

Eh, I don't really disagree with either of you. I'd personal go with Mack and hope he can improve rather than going with a 33 year old worse version of Jordan Crawford. But the writing was on the wall since SL, you're right about that.

Barron, meh. One of the most uncoordinated players I've ever seen. Would rather have Cook just for spot up shooting. We'll see what happens, I guess. Its just unfortunate that our injury situation means these guys are actually going to have to play decent minutes.

[StillUnknown]

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/1...r-trevor-ariza

It really shouldn't be that hard of a decision for Randy Wittman to list Martell Webster's name on the starting lineup card for Tuesday's season opener against the Cleveland Cavaliers. That it is speaks to the politics of the league, where bigger salaries, psychology and management's hopes dictate lineup decisions more than merit. Still, if we're basing this decision solely on merit, Webster has earned the starting job over Trevor Ariza.

And if Wittman is serious about his talk of a meritocracy, he should give Webster what he deserves.

Much more in the link

I agree that Webster should get the starting nod.

[pjfootballer]

OK, time to predict their record. I want to see how many ultra homers we have in here. No excuse for the Wall injury, it is what it is. Last year we finished 20-46, which roughly is 25-57 in an 82 game schedule. I say they improve a little. Not much. 32-50.

[StillUnknown]

OK, time to predict their record. I want to see how many ultra homers we have in here. No excuse for the Wall injury, it is what it is. Last year we finished 20-46, which roughly is 25-57 in an 82 game schedule. I say they improve a little. Not much. 32-50.

35-47

No Playoffs. Ted uses injuries to excuse the record and not meeting his stated objectives. Ernie & Wittman both return next season and we do this same song and dance again.


I would love to be wrong on my prediction, I would love to see the team squeak into the 8th seed.

[Gator Bait]

. Wall's actually much better at getting to the line, passing, rebounding, and defending plus he's doing it playing more minutes and for a worse team that has not been able to actually space the floor Wall's entire tenure. Is Kyrie's individual future any brighter than Wall's? I doubt it.
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Agree that Wall is better in all aspects besides shooting; but disagree that he is a better defender. Wall is one of the worst defenders in the NBA...him and Crawford (who is probably the worst defender in the entire NBA) are both revolving doors. They are horrible on the defensive side.

[Duckus]

25 wins.

3 worst record in the league. Only ahead of Bobcats and Orlando.

Ted writes several columns attacking the media and upset fans. Tells us all to be more patient.

[Gator Bait]

41-41 8th seed in the playoffs, swept by the Heat in the 1st round.

That front court of Nene and Okafor is going to be hard to handle for most teams in the league. The key is staying healthy. I'm counting on them starting a combined 120 games this year (which may be wishful thinking). I also think Webster will have a career year; averaging between 12-15 ppg. Not expecting a lot from Beal; I thought he was disappointing in the preseason. He may average 10 or 12 ppg at best this year.

[nuposse87]

Agree that Wall is better in all aspects besides shooting; but disagree that he is a better defender. Wall is one of the worst defenders in the NBA...him and Crawford (who is probably the worst defender in the entire NBA) are both revolving doors. They are horrible on the defensive side.

What exactly do you have to back up this claim? 1st season wall was a decent help defender...below average man defender. I thought he made monument strides last season. The problem was, for the first half to the season he was playing with bigs and players that were awful in pick and roll defense and had no concept of rotating correctly. We were an above average defense after the all star break I believe, top ten with Nene...sample size of only like 11 games with nene but thats trending in the right direction. Walls issues are all fixed with either a mid range jumper or a 3 pt jumper. Thats the only thing seperating him from being an all star and locking us into a playoff spot. I fully believe that.