The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[chipwhich]

That was before he decided no stars wanted to play here and gave up. Back when he showed up with a suitcase full of money and stole arenas. Now he settles and apologizes to players for bringing them here. He's become pathetic and his continued employment insults me as a wizards fan.

I have been following this pathetic franchise since the late 70's. Nothing has changed.

I am insulted too.

[stevemcqueen1]

It's pretty crazy watching the Lakers and Mavericks shoot. We look like a college team in comparison. There is just a dearth of offensive talent on our team. Not enough shooters, not enough ability to create space with a dribble or two and get off a shot.

[Hersh]

There is just a dearth of offensive talent on our team. Not enough shooters, not enough ability to create space with a dribble or two and get off a shot.

Everyone knew this going into last season. Did anyone think we had upgraded offensively that much this last off-season?

[Skin'emAlive]

Chip... man i swear like 70% of your posts on this thread are " i have watched this franchise since the 70's " or " for 30+ years " or " Ernie gave us a playoff team for the first time in so many years...". Man, Its been like the same people on this board for years now... We know. haha.. And yes, nothing has changed. Though, i think most of us knew that this team would be no different until the FO changes. And with Wall and Nene out for an extended period of time... the team is probably doomed.

[Destino]

From what I've heard Nene, Wall, and Seraphin should all be back by late November. That only what 12 games? Seraphin and Nene will hopefully be back sooner. This team should be a lot more fun to watch if they bet back to full strength. I mean just ask yourself when the last time most of the starters were proven nba quality veterans?

Wall has never played with a group of guys that aren't trying to prove they belong in the league.



... As I type this d Howard fouls out. Lakerland gonna be angry.

[stevemcqueen1]

Everyone knew this going into last season. Did anyone think we had upgraded offensively that much this last off-season?

It'll look better when Wall and Nene and Seraphin get back.

Wall is basically 9/10ths of our dribble penetration and he can finish and get to the line.

Nene is one of the only guys with a mid range game and he's elite finishing around the rim. He's got great hands and a nice back to the basket game so he can create shots for himself if you get him the ball in his spots.

And Seraphin is one of the few guys with an elite go to offensive weapon with that nasty hook.

We're really going to feel the loss of those specific shots.

[StillUnknown]

From what I've heard Nene, Wall, and Seraphin should all be back by late November. That only what 12 games? Seraphin and Nene will hopefully be back sooner. This team should be a lot more fun to watch if they bet back to full strength. I mean just ask yourself when the last time most of the starters were proven nba quality veterans?

Wall has never played with a group of guys that aren't trying to prove they belong in the league.

Last time our roster had that many proven nba starters were the pre-gun Gilbert days.

Just a feeling, but I'm not expecting Wall back until January.

[Destino]

Last time our roster had that many proven nba starters were the pre-gun Gilbert days.

Just a feeling, but I'm not expecting Wall back until January.

I think Wall's injury is well understood. Nene's situation concerns me more. If it doesn't fully clear up it will linger all year and any pause in the game, be it a TV timeout or rest, will trigger the pain in his foot.

[StillUnknown]

I think Wall's injury is well understood. Nene's situation concerns me more. If it doesn't fully clear up it will linger all year and any pause in the game, be it a TV timeout or rest, will trigger the pain in his foot.

That's why his injury is so tough, it will be on and off all season. That messes up the chemistry and flow of the team. It would almost be better if he a had a simple broken bone and we knew what the recovery time would be. Hard to predict plantar fasciitis.

Gotta wonder if he would be healthy now if he chose to sit out of the Olympics.

[RonArtest15]

Kyrie Irving is a damn good player. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he averages around 25ppg this season. He can score from anywhere on the floor and at a high % as well. Scoring-wise, I'm going to say that he has the potential to be more dangerous than a fully-healthy Derrick Rose.

That being said, I don't see him as a better PURE PG than John Wall. I know people are hung up on the Wall/Irving debate, but truthfully, they are two ENTIRELY different players. Irving doesn't have as much responsibility (as Wall) as far as facilitating the offense and being the primary ball-handler. It's not a knock on Irving, but both guys bring two different skill sets to their respective teams.

[pjfootballer]

What pissed me off was the last 5 minutes. We were winning the battle in the paint all game long and I think Webster scored a backdown finger roll around the 4:40 mark and then.....Nothing. Nobody going to the block, nobody trying to establish anything inside. Nothing but jumpers. We've been a team that has done nothing but rely on jump shots for the last...I don't know....5 years and guess what? We STINK at jumpers. We do not have one reliable guy to knock down jumpers. So when you aren't hitting your jumpers, get the damn ball inside and at worst, get to the line.

[Rocky21]

OK. Here's what I got.
Barron was fantastic. Active on the glass, moving well without the ball and playing defense.

That ****ing Varejao. We always make him look like an all star. I’ll be glad when he retires.

I can’t believe some of you guys are down on Beal. He is the youngest player to ever start a game in this franchise’s history and it was his first professional basketball game! You don’t think a little time is in order before you start hating on the guy?

That being said - Not gonna beat a lot of teams with Wall and Nene hurt and wearing street clothes.

[Sticksboi05]

Even with Wall and Nene, the fact is Grunfeld sucks, and he along with the medical staff should've been fired the moment Leonsis took over as owner. As long as Grunfeld is GM this franchise will remain irrelevant.

[stevemcqueen1]

Kyrie Irving is a damn good player. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he averages around 25ppg this season. He can score from anywhere on the floor and at a high % as well. Scoring-wise, I'm going to say that he has the potential to be more dangerous than a fully-healthy Derrick Rose.

That being said, I don't see him as a better PURE PG than John Wall. I know people are hung up on the Wall/Irving debate, but truthfully, they are two ENTIRELY different players. Irving doesn't have as much responsibility (as Wall) as far as facilitating the offense and being the primary ball-handler. It's not a knock on Irving, but both guys bring two different skill sets to their respective teams.

They are extremely different. Irving is almost more of a 2 guard truth be told. His team absolutely relies on him for scoring, not passing. Good lord, Anderson Varajao can run point .

The Wizards and Cavs will always use Irving and Wall in entirely different ways throughout their career too. If they're smart that is. Don't put a square peg into a round hole in trying to make Kyrie a passer Cleveland, and don't do the same to Wall by trying to make him a slow it down, half court jump shooting guard.

Physically, I see a lot more similarity between CP3 and Irving than Rose and Irving RA15. Not as strong as CP3 is, but about the same height, and has that similar level of quickness. His scoring array is also really similar to CP3's. CP3 is world's better as a passer and defender and rebounder though. Rose is more physically similar to the John Wall/Russell Westbrook type and his game is a little more inside dominant than Kyrie's, plus he too is a lot better passer than Kyrie.

Kyrie is going to be an amazing scorer his whole career. But I wonder about pairing him with Waiters. I think they should have found more of a facilitator to play in the back court with him. Maybe they can get that at the 3 instead.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Once, I want the Wizards to luck out and draft a stud wing/perimeter type player who can slash, drive, and make plays off the dribble.

The bizarre thing is that is the easiest player in the world to get.