The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[Fight4RGIII]

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you need to realize this organization is rotten, not the player(s)

Oh I realize. I just think all of those players have more superstar potential and are better to build teams around. And it's not a knock on Wall. I think he is a very good, above average player. I just think the others are better to build around.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

Oh I realize. I just think all of those players have more superstar potential and are better to build teams around. And it's not a knock on Wall. I think he is a very good, above average player. I just think the others are better to build around.

you cant build a team around Blake Griffin. He cant defend, his game is reliant on athleticism, and he is horrible in late game situations. Not a good post player either.

If CP3, their real franchise player, is not there the Clippers would also stink.

I think Wall could be better than Kyrie as he is a great scorer and already a smarter player, but he turns the ball over as much as Wall without being anywhere near the playmaker Wall is. But Kyrie got professionals around him and a moderately well FO.

The problem with this team is we have nothing around Wall.

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Ted actually posted on the game.

http://www.tedstake.com/2012/11/14/n...ll-last-night/

seriously, screw him. The reason for this bad basketball is because you dont know what you are doing and stay passing the buck.

[Fight4RGIII]

Well, at least we can agree on 3 or 4/5 of the last drafts. And Kyrie has Varejao and a bunch of youngsters/bums. Varejao and Scott are the only, "professionals," around him.

[SiCkSoULjA]

Exactly.

There has been talent on this team. McGee and Young were talented. They largely failed and never developed as hoped.

Wall and Vesely are next in line as players who will never reach their full potential in DC. Same will likely be true for Bradley Beal. Ted has a small window to completely purge the toxic front office and coaching staff and start from scratch. It's closing fast but it's still there.

I disagree with this post McGee was developing kind of slowley but year after year he has been working on his game. He turned into a great off ball defender, he got bigger, he developed a few post moves. He was a knuckle head that was surrounded by a team full knuckle heads not many people are going too mature in that situation.

John Wall has been good the past 2 years for us, he needs too work on his shot but averaging 8 assist and 16 points is not bad.

Never was big on Young, hes very talented just can't stop shooting any and everything. Vessley well I just don't see the talent there.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

Well, at least we can agree on 3 or 4/5 of the last drafts. And Kyrie has Varejao and a bunch of youngsters/bums. Varejao and Scott are the only, "professionals," around him.

they have Gibson who helped Cleveland reach the most successful times in that franchise's history along with Varejao (altho in fairness I was thinking more last year).

Then they have Zeller who will probably end up being the best UNC out of their draft group last year. The guy works! He runs the court, he takes charges, better defender than I thought he would be too.

Fats Waiters is really looking like a poor man's DWade beside him in the back court.

And those "bums" try hard and dont embarrass themselves.

Look at the Wizards since Wall came into the NBA? This is the first year dude has had a professional mindset around him.

---------- Post added November-14th-2012 at 12:34 PM ----------

I disagree with this post McGee was developing kind of slowley but year after year he has been working on his game. He turned into a great off ball defender, he got bigger, he developed a few post moves. He was a knuckle head that was surrounded by a team full knuckle heads not many people are going too mature in that situation.

McGee is not a good on the ball defender. He is great on the weakside tho.

His post moves are still nonexistant in Denver and he still does stupid things. Its just the start of the year, but he is averaging under 20mpg in Denver.

Javale could have developed more tho if he had a veteran big man with him, and the FO really invested in making him a better player. They didnt, and I dont believe Javale will get much better than he is now, except for defending.

[Hersh]

The more games we lose the better. I w ant an 0-10 start at least. That'll force Whitman to be fired and we can bring in a real coach. The real challenge though is Ernie, how do we get Ernie fired?

It doesn't matter if Whitman gets fired ten games in if Ernie is still the GM. We need a new GM to pick a new coach.

[RonArtest15]

Well, at least we can agree on 3 or 4/5 of the last drafts. And Kyrie has Varejao and a bunch of youngsters/bums. Varejao and Scott are the only, "professionals," around him.

Varejao is also one of the most underrated bigs in the NBA. He's VERY smart while on the floor. Not only that, he can play. We don't have that here in DC. Like I was saying a while back, I wished we could have gotten him in return for Jamison.

And FWIW, Javale McGee is the same player (and not starting) in Denver as he was here.

[Destino]

And FWIW, Javale McGee is the same player (and not starting) in Denver as he was here.

Javale McGee: 19.3 minutes, 9.9ppg, 5.9rpg, .538 FG%, 20.91 PER
Emeka Okafor: 24.5 minutes, 8.5ppg, 6.3rpg, .408 FG%, 15.06 PER

Thank God we upgraded.

[Sticksboi05]

It doesn't matter if Whitman gets fired ten games in if Ernie is still the GM. We need a new GM to pick a new coach.

As I said, the real challenge is Ernie, how do we get Ernie fired.

[RonArtest15]

Javale McGee: 19.3 minutes, 9.9ppg, 5.9rpg, .538 FG%, 20.91 PER
Emeka Okafor: 24.5 minutes, 8.5ppg, 6.3rpg, .408 FG%, 15.06 PER

Thank God we upgraded.

Again...McGee is the same guy in Denver. We'd probably still be 0-6 w/ him on the roster.

[No Excuses]

Again...McGee is the same guy in Denver. We'd probably still be 0-6 w/ him on the roster.

Probably would have been better to simply let him walk in FA as well.

Nene will do diddly squat for this team over his tenure except take up a large chunk of the cap. It's an excuse for this wussy owner and his pathetic little GM to not make any moves in FA.

[Buford]

As I said, the real challenge is Ernie, how do we get Ernie fired.

stage a funeral for the franchise in front of the Verizon Center. Wooden box with the Bullets and Wizards logos on it. A few speeches by some older fans who remember the Bullets in the 70's. Then maybe mourn different eras that bombed since then.

That's the type of crap that Dan Steinberg needs to survive. Its air to him. He'd "bog" all about it.

[MLSKINS]

Honestly, I am at the point where I hope Ernie and Whitman isn't fired in the middle of the season. I want them to last the whole season. After the season is over, we need to clean house in management. The GM, coaches, and scouts needs to go. Bring in a GM whose been surrounding by winning cultures that were built and not given to. (i.e. Teams who didn't need to sign big free agents, but teams who scouted and drafted well and signed role players to compliment their top picks) .

We need to do something, I am tired of seeing this team suck like this. I don't care how we finish the year, we need to clean house for real and stop pussyfooting around.

[RonArtest15]

Probably would have been better to simply let him walk in FA as well.

Nene will do diddly squat for this team over his tenure except take up a large chunk of the cap. It's an excuse for this wussy owner and his pathetic little GM to not make any moves in FA.

You have to remember the conversations in this thread regarding what McGee was worth. Seemed like no one was comfortable with him making 10+ mil a year. If we let him walk, what do you think EG would have done to replace him?

I think the bottom line is as long as EG is constructing the roster, there will be problems.

*What I'm most perplexed about is that there was a chance (at least according to rumors) of landing Harden for the #3 pick and filler. Having a guy like Harden on this roster would have at the minimum helped us win 2/3 games by now.

[Fight4RGIII]

Let's all stage a walkout during the Bobcats game next Saturday. All 276 fans just walk out.