The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[Destino]

The Laker's run an offense that doesn't fit their all star roster and they lose a ton of games. Everyone looks at the coach. The Wizards run an offense that doesn't fit their roster and it's because they have zero talent. People are inclined to feel sorry for the coach thinking him a victim. Wittman has never been a good head coach! This team is trying to run a motion offense which they showed off in the preseason. If you've watched the games they have clearly succeed in getting guys wide open shots. The problem is this roster can't shoot worth a damn and when Wall gets back.... the starters will likely be even worse at long and mid range shooting. Nene isn't exactly a stretch four either even if he can hit a mid range shot at times.

The roster isn't good but the coaching is worse than the talent. Wittman doesn't know how to use his limited roster and he's installed an offense that makes no sense. He's taken a bad team and made them so much worse.

[RonArtest15]

Destino - TBH, I don't know how many coaches out there could maximize the most out of this current roster. It's REALLY bad. I'd like to give Witt a chance with at least Wall/Nene (or at least Wall) to see if there is any improvement.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

Kevin Martin could not cover you.

I know but he'd be the best scorer we've had since Gil

[Destino]

Destino - TBH, I don't know how many coaches out there could maximize the most out of this current roster. It's REALLY bad. I'd like to give Witt a chance with at least Wall/Nene (or at least Wall) to see if there is any improvement.

I'm not sure that this roster stands out as particularly terrible compared to 2010-2011.

[stevemcqueen1]

The team has got to win soon. We need to beat the Jazz on Saturday. Everyone needs a win. 0-8 was our worst start in franchise history. It happened last year.

[Sticksboi05]

The team has got to win soon. We need to beat the Jazz on Saturday. Everyone needs a win. 0-8 was our worst start in franchise history. It happened last year.

Whatever it takes to get Ernie Grunfeld's ass canned is worth it for the future.

[Destino]

The team has got to win soon. We need to beat the Jazz on Saturday. Everyone needs a win. 0-8 was our worst start in franchise history. It happened last year.

In the NBA bad teams do eventually have a hot shooting night and beat someone they shouldn't. I would not, however, put any money on the Wizards winning any time soon. I wouldn't be surprised to see that worst start mark reach a new and humiliating low this season.

[nuposse87]

http://www.nba.com/wizards/news/wiza...aun-livingston

This is a step in the right direction at least. Although, pargo has literally cost us 5 games at least.

[mboyd784]

http://deadspin.com/5960701/deadspin...ain-of-failure

So true, it hurts.

[Destino]

http://www.nba.com/wizards/news/wiza...aun-livingston

This is a step in the right direction at least. Although, pargo has literally cost us 5 games at least.

We should just go to a three guard rotation but this certainly is a step in the right direction, even if it is a very small one.

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

Maybe.

I think Wittman is already quick to hook guys. Look at our 15 man rotations...

What we need is a real coach who can instill a real NBA rotation and heirarchy and structure to the team.

We need a coach who won't be over-playing roster filler, bad journeymen vets over the young talent we need to be developing and instilling confidence and familiarity in.
You can not develop in the NBA on the bench. And LKB was right, you can not develop 8 guys at once. It just doesn't work.

We need to probably cut bait on most of our young guys, pick a few core ones to stick with, and then move forward with their development being priority #1. We are not a good enough organization to pull an OKC and have 8 young guys all figure out how to play together.

Trouble is, we have no FA drawing power. We're a laughing stock. The rest of the league peers into our situation every now and then and either laughs, or goes," good god that's a mess... put the lid back on that."

Also, I think OJ Mayo was a trade, not a FA.

It may suck to hear it, but it's the truth that we have no FA drawing power. This is a clown show that vets who expect to play good BBall and want to win at all would never, ever come here. And those are the type of Vets we need to surround our developing players with. I'm talking about mid to low tier decent FAs. Would we ever be able to sign Chris Kaman or Elton Brand? Would Ramon Sessions? Would Andrei Kirilenko or Brandon Roy? Not for a second. Why would they?

So we can't even fill out our roster with desirable role players to fill in the cracks and help our young guy develop. Our attempts to force decent vets here through trades badly slanted against us have been abject failures. Ariza and Okafor were pretty crap. Nene has barely played.

We can't make open shots consistently.

We got bottom of the barrel FAs and young guys with no confidence and no scoring instincts, no real understanding of offense.

And I seriously don't know if this draft class can even help us, even if we got the #1 overall pick. The best guy in the class probably won't even play BBall this year and the other guys are defensive types and huge long term projects.

I feel the John Wall era falling apart. I honestly don't know if it can realistically be saved. Nothing has broken our way and we haven't helped ourselves at all by leaving incompetent people at GM and HC.

---------- Post added November-15th-2012 at 09:28 AM ----------



I think Beal will be alright. I'm not worried about his development being off track yet. Rookies usually suck at shooting. He's just got no feel yet. He'll get better at that in time. I like the effort on the defensive end he's been putting in. Still getting burned, but still fighting through screens and contesting shots and he's been getting more effective on the ball.

Beal and Wall are the least of our issues IMO.

---------- Post added November-15th-2012 at 09:36 AM ----------

How would you all specifically fix our mess. We're playing fantasy GM, let's just assume EG and Wittman are fired and are replaced with good people. All of us want that, let's get that out of the way.

Alright, now assume we're getting the first, second, or third overall pick. I think this is likely. We're obviously the overwhelming favorite for the first overall pick right now, and assuming that, we'll pick no worse than third.

What specific roster moves would you try and make to fix our mess?

Your post deserves alot of praise and the bolded is what has made me turn the television off on this team each time.

I hear Wittman calling this team out for the simplest **** that they should be drilling in practice?!

Oh, and a GM and HC model... how about plucking away at the Bobcats squad. They've already won two games I believe and are on the rise. How teams keep turning lucky ahead of our very own Wizards is beyond me?!

[stevemcqueen1]

http://deadspin.com/5960701/deadspin...ain-of-failure

So true, it hurts.

My favorite part:

None of this was ever Jamison's fault. Certainly you can't blame Jamison for Arenas blowing out his knee, bringing guns to the locker room, and getting suspended for a year. He just happened to be there, the way he happened to be there for LeBron's meltdown, the way he happened to be there when Team USA lost to Greece.

That is to say, the way Typhoid Mary always happened to be in the kitchen when people got sick.

[pjfootballer]

It's happening in Basketball and Football for DC. Other teams seem to be able to rebuild faster. Must be something in the Potomac.

[stevemcqueen1]

Your post deserves alot of praise and the bolded is what has made me turn the television off on this team each time.

I hear Wittman calling this team out for the simplest **** that they should be drilling in practice?!

Oh, and a GM and HC model... how about plucking away at the Bobcats squad. They've already won two games I believe and are on the rise. How teams keep turning lucky ahead of our very own Wizards is beyond me?!

It's crazy. Every time I try and tell myself to be patient, a Cleveland or a Charlotte or a New Orleans goes from being awful to starting to build something the next darn year. It makes it hard to ignore the fact it shouldn't take ten years to rebuild.

---------- Post added November-15th-2012 at 04:26 PM ----------

It's happening in Basketball and Football for DC. Other teams seem to be able to rebuild faster. Must be something in the Potomac.

It's because you can't fix problems by throwing money at them in basketball and football like you can in baseball. You have to have good people in charge. Getting the best players in basketball isn't possible with money alone.

I see the NBA having four or five basic types of players

1.) The big contract vets you really really want.

2.) The big contract vets you don't want at all.

3.) The moderate to low contract vets you really want.

4.) The moderate to low contract vets you don't want at all

5.) The developmental young guys whose value is based on potential.

The problem with the Wizards as is--they have no ability to get players from categories 1 & 3. So they have a bunch of guys from 2 and 4 and 5, and hope that the guys from 5 will turn into 1s and 3s is the only thing that sustains their fans.

[Buford]

The team has got to win soon. We need to beat the Jazz on Saturday. Everyone needs a win. 0-8 was our worst start in franchise history. It happened last year.

Love the sig. Everybody should email and tweet Leonsis and include the picture.......every single time.