The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[StillUnknown]

For the record this post is not bashing Nene for playing 20 minutes, it's bashing Ted for posting this ****.

Ted got slayed in the comments section for that posting.

this comment rings especially true:

Alex Crow on December 20, 2012 at 2:22 PM said:
Never before have I seen a team accept losing so casually, as if it were status quo. It seems Wittman has carte blanche to do so because the excuses are continually being generated from the top.

This organization needs stronger leadership. 3-20 is not okay. Wizards fans are tired of the excuses.

Wizards need to offer some combination of Vesely, Booker, Singleton, and a second round pick for D Williams soon. The T Wolves don't even want to play him and we have nothing good behind nene at the 4.

But......Ted believes in Jan Vesely. When Wall comes back, he'll magically turn into a serviceable player instead of his current status as a waste of a roster spot.

[stevemcqueen1]

lol this season is just getting worse and worse. The team is bound to implode if Wall doesn't get back soon. The more time he misses the more sick I feel. We need Wall back very soon, he has to be getting frustrated with this organization and at this rate will not be returning once his rookie contract runs out.

By far the best quote from Ted:



Yes it's stunning to us as well that even with half of our damn team injured, Nene still can only play 20 minutes. Truly stunning that we traded our 2nd biggest asset for damaged goods.

Edit: after rereading I really can't believe the owner of our team blogs this BS. It's embarrassing honestly.



Are we really supposed to be satisfied with him providing us with 20 minutes per game? Sure he plays his heart out for his 20 minutes or so per game, but Ted the game is 48 minutes!


For the record this post is not bashing Nene for playing 20 minutes, it's bashing Ted for posting this ****.

Nene's minutes are limited because h's playing with an injury, not because he can't beat out others to get on the court.

[nuposse87]

I'm not on the Porter bandwagon. I don't see what he's got at an elite level except length.

Poythress is pretty good but he doesn't have a true NBA position IMO. The impression I got of him was a poor man's, more scoring oriented MKG. I wouldn't take him top 3.

I've cooled on Len because he cooled off after that hot start. He's good, a definite top five pick to me, but I don't think I'd take him #1. I do like that his body is NBA ready though. But he's also got a year of physical development on guys like Noel. And he did absolutely nothing as a Freshman whereas guys like Shabbaz and Noel are coming out and playing well for high profile teams right off the bat.

Noel is the most interesting player in the class to me. Best body probably. Best athlete among the bigs by far. Probably the best rebounder and almost certainly the best shot blocker. Probably the best defender overall. He's also probably the best passer. He just has no scoring whatsoever. He's averaging 10 PPG on pure hustle.

---------- Post added December-20th-2012 at 07:40 AM ----------



Zeller is one of the few I can't see being a bust. He's a safe pick. True big men who can score like him get run in the NBA. He'll never be a superstar, but he'll always have a spot in some team's rotation and probably get big minutes early in his career.

Brook Lopez got a 60 million dollar deal because he's a big man that can score. I see Zeller being a better player than him.

With regards to porter and Poythress..I would only take them if I didn't have a top 3 pick. I'd trade back maybe 2/3 spots depending on their respective draft grade and teams behind us and their draft needs.

Noel is mostly a hustle player, but I've seen him make moves you expect that highly touted a player make. Rebounding is a big problem on this team and at the very least he'd help in that. He doesn't seem to rotate well yet on D but I imagine that'd be amendable over time. His elite shot blocking ought to mask that some as well. Agreed on len, he isn't a number 1 over all pick barring an absurd show of growth in basketball skill.

Now with regards to Zeller...I don't think his game warrants a top 5 pick. His best case scenario seems like a pick and pop forward. He's going to be a bad defender in the next level and isn't going to significantly upgrade anything for us. If Shabazz, Noel and Len are off the board, I'm trading back or out of the draft. Brook Lopez's wingspan is far more imposing then Zeller's 6'8 wingspan. He is absolutely skilled but he isn't going to be strong as z-bo and he won't be effective in low post. His niche is going to be like Sullinger's at the next level.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

I could see some Zbo in Zeller but he doesn't have that kind of strength and physicality. I see some LaMarcus Aldridge in playing style but he doesn't have Aldridge's awesome arm length. I see some Pau Gasol too with the highly skilled finesse style but not the same handles as Gasol. I agree about him not being like Love. He is longer and leaner and much more of an inside scorer and he doesn't rebound like Love.

I also agree that you take Shabbaz #1. He's the best player in the class. That's the reason you do it IMO.

Zeller is a little wider than Aldridge is. I do agree about the strength thing with comparing him to ZBo, but Zeller has the frame to fill out like ZBo has.

I think he good, but I cant see dude being a great NBA player


Shabazz is the #1 player for me regardless. He has an NBA body and can handle. My only concern for dude is that he can be a black hole

---------- Post added December-21st-2012 at 01:29 AM ----------

Seen every MD game this year and Len hasn't cooled off at all. His numbers are suppressed because Mark Turgeon is using different lineup combinations.

Trying to integrate freshman etc,

I think you'll see his numbers rise when the Terps get to conference play.

I cannot wait to see him take a dump on Plumlee. He was doing it last year to Plumlee, and Len was weaker.

The ACC just dont know, he is the best big man in conference.

---------- Post added December-21st-2012 at 01:31 AM ----------

I would like to see that because I like Len's physical profile better than all of the other bigs except for Noel probably. He's a true 7 footer and is already 255. I do want to know why he didn't really do anything as a freshman though. Where did this year come from?

Len was like 210 lbs last year and it was his first year in America. Everyone knew he had the talent, just not the body.

[stevemcqueen1]

Zeller is a little wider than Aldridge is. I do agree about the strength thing with comparing him to ZBo, but Zeller has the frame to fill out like ZBo has.

I think he good, but I cant see dude being a great NBA player

That's about how I feel too.

Do you see him being as good as a Z Bo or a Pau? If so, that's worth a top five pick IMO.

Shabazz is the #1 player for me regardless. He has an NBA body and can handle. My only concern for dude is that he can be a black hole

He's got some young Kobe in him, both good and bad. He needs to get to a point where he can keep his head up when he drives and look for teammates to dish it to instead of going for the shot every time.

He's a finisher though and I don't think that is going to change too much in the NBA. Not really a selfish player, just not a creative passer. You're going to isolate his side of the court and expect him to take the shot in catch and shoot situations. It's not too big a deal to me but yeah, it is a bit concerning.

Len was like 210 lbs last year and it was his first year in America. Everyone knew he had the talent, just not the body.

Remarkable he was able to gain 45 pounds in a year. I believe there is room in this class for Len to really dominate and make a push for first overall consideration. I'd love to see a big man like him really emerge as a top choice for us.

[Dave25]

There is almost no hope for the foreseeable future for this team especially if Wall is hurt long term. I just hope our idiot GM dosent do any more knee jerk trades to "contend" we should just tank and hope for a top 3 pick for either Noel,Zeller, or Muhammed.

Fire Grunfield and trade NeNe for whatever we can(damaged goods) and wait
for these awful Okafor and Ariza contracts to expire.After next year pray we luck into Parker or Wiggins the next superstars. Basically we have no hope of being a respectable franchise until 2015 at the earliest. Thank god for the Nats and Skins.

[DallasBlowsBig]

Please tell me if I am wrong, but this is what concerns me the most.

We have a lot of young talent on this team, or at least young players with potential. And we have Randy Wittman as the person who is developing these players. I just don't believe he is capable of doing this. I am wrong to assume this?

[pjfootballer]

I thought this was the easy part of our schedule?

[StillUnknown]

Nene out tonight because of cold/flu. Beal is a gametime decision.


They may have no choice but to play Vesely tonight.

[Destino]

Crawford, Martin, Vesely, Arron, and Singleton on the floor at the same time. That's all kinds of horrible.

[StillUnknown]

Vesely has been blocked at the rim twice after going up soft. The guy we drafted because he was tall and athletic is getting blocked at the rim.

[SiCkSoULjA]

Vesely has been blocked at the rim twice after going up soft. The guy we drafted because he was tall and athletic is getting blocked at the rim.

He doesn't belong in this league

[MonkFan8]

Jan padding his stats so far. By that I mean he's raising his foul/point ratio.

This team is an embarrassment to the NBA. Numerous teams are competing with injuries to their stars and it's frankly insulting that Ted thinks we can't see it.

Disgusting.

[Fight4RGIII]

Crawford is in that, "Aw **** it, I gotta do this **** myself," mode.

[SiCkSoULjA]

Crawford is in that, "Aw **** it, I gotta do this **** myself," mode.

He's the only one this game that looks like they even know how too make a shot.