The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[SiCkSoULjA]

I think I hate the Clippers as well only team I dislike more are the Lakers, if they play in the playoffs I could careless who wins.

Vesley compared too Noel

[mboyd784]

Solid effort last night. We lose that game by 20 in November. Better rebounding rotation, better FT shooting and better officiating and we can beat that team.

[Duckus]

Yep, Nene got tagged with an offensive foul for that one.

Any chance he gets hit with the "flopping fine" for that one?

[Hersh]

Personally, I think we need bigs with more length.

Noel, Len etc.

Why do people on this board like Len? I watched the state/Maryland game last week and was completely unimpressed with him. I was expecting him to potentially dominate but he didn't seem at all quick nor really have much of an offensive game.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Why do people on this board like Len? I watched the state/Maryland game last week and was completely unimpressed with him. I was expecting him to potentially dominate but he didn't seem at all quick nor really have much of an offensive game.

He's very quick/athletic and has a number of offensive moves.

But what he lacks is sufficient strength and guards who can feed the post and consistently hit an outside shot.

I've seen every Terps game this season and there is literally no room for Len to operate.

[stevemcqueen1]

I think I hate the Clippers as well only team I dislike more are the Lakers, if they play in the playoffs I could careless who wins.

Vesley compared too Noel

You're still salty about that?

Offensively, the comparison still stands. But defensively and on the defensive glass, Noel is much better.

---------- Post added January-20th-2013 at 10:51 AM ----------

Any chance he gets hit with the "flopping fine" for that one?

He damn well better. And he's a repeat offender though I doubt he's ever been fined before. He needs a suspension. He's probably the biggest flopper in the league. He's Meryl Streep and makes Manu look like Kristin Stewart.

---------- Post added January-20th-2013 at 10:53 AM ----------

Solid effort last night. We lose that game by 20 in November. Better rebounding rotation, better FT shooting and better officiating and we can beat that team.

Absolutely. Though change only one of those things and we beat them. And it will never be the officiating...

[Burgold]

In the NBA, do players get fined for flops like that? It's one thing to exagerate a hit... it's another to be a Hollywood stuntman?

[stevemcqueen1]

He's very quick/athletic and has a number of offensive moves.

But what he lacks is sufficient strength and guards who can feed the post and consistently hit an outside shot.

I've seen every Terps game this season and there is literally no room for Len to operate.

My biggest concern isn't so much his offensive game as his defensive game. Yesterday McAdoo, who is a much smaller player and a mismatch, was able to muscle Len around in the paint. Grabbed a number of offensive boards and easy buckets in the paint because Len struggled to hold position against him. A part of it was instincts. McAdoo shows really superior instincts at rebounding. But the biggest part of it was a lack of strength. McAdoo looks pretty well built for being the same class as Len. But it should have been a big mismatch in Len's favor. McAdoo is more of a SF than a C.

I think his potential is still very high given how great his frame is and how quick he is. But I think he's a big project given how much bulk and strength he has to develop.

---------- Post added January-20th-2013 at 11:02 AM ----------

In the NBA, do players get fined for flops like that? It's one thing to exagerate a hit... it's another to be a Hollywood stuntman?

They are supposed to get fined for early offenses. Repeated flopping is supposed to eventually draw suspensions. But so far, I've yet to hear of a single star player getting fined and plenty of them have committed ridiculous flops.

I think the rule is window dressing by the league, only peripheral players get punished and it created yet another uncompetitive line of line of separation between "stars" (haves) and the the normals (have nots).

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

My biggest concern isn't so much his offensive game as his defensive game. Yesterday McAdoo, who is a much smaller player and a mismatch, was able to muscle Len around in the paint. Grabbed a number of offensive boards and easy buckets in the paint because Len struggled to hold position against him. A part of it was instincts. McAdoo shows really superior instincts at rebounding. But the biggest part of it was a lack of strength. McAdoo looks pretty well built for being the same class as Len. But it should have been a big mismatch in Len's favor. McAdoo is more of a SF than a C.

I think his potential is still very high given how great his frame is and how quick he is. But I think he's a big project given how much bulk and strength he has to develop.[COLOR="Gold"]

I can't disagree with anything you wrote.

I think Len is a project as well but since we're more than likely picking somewhere between 4-7, I think his upside would be worth it.

I advocated taking Drummond last year based on upside and I'm approaching Len in the same way.

I'd rather go for the "homerun" rather than playing it safe.

[RonArtest15]

I was reading the game recap on BF, and it was noted that Nene has developed knee tendonitis in the wake of overcompensating for his foot problems.

If there are ANY feelers for Nene via trade, EVERY option needs to be explored. I like him a lot, but he's damaged goods, old, and has a horrible contract. Nothing is impossible, so I could forsee a playoff bound team wanting to strike a deal for Nene because he would be an excellent addition to many rosters around the league. I just don't think he's a good fit for us going forward due to what I mentioned before.

[Hersh]

I can't disagree with anything you wrote.

I think Len is a project as well but since we're more than likely picking somewhere between 4-7, I think his upside would be worth it.

I advocated taking Drummond last year based on upside and I'm approaching Len in the same way.

I'd rather go for the "homerun" rather than playing it safe.

This team doesn't need any projects, it needs guys to be able to produce with Wall and Beal from the get go.

[MonkFan8]

Yep, Nene got tagged with an offensive foul for that one.

Not only that, but old ass Joey Crawford gave Witt a technical for yelling that Nene didn't touch him.

Was really a turning point in the game.

If Griffin doesn't get suspended for that you know something is wrong. At least he's lost the respect of his peers.

[RonArtest15]

Not only that, but old ass Joey Crawford gave Witt a technical for yelling that Nene didn't touch him.

Was really a turning point in the game.

If Griffin doesn't get suspended for that you know something is wrong. At least he's lost the respect of his peers.

I don't think Griffin is respected too much outside of his own team. He's got a WELL DESERVED rep.

[MonkFan8]

I don't think Griffin is respected too much outside of his own team. He's got a WELL DESERVED rep.

Hell, even within his own team, lol

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

This team doesn't need any projects, it needs guys to be able to produce with Wall and Beal from the get go.

While I think Len's a project I don't think he's on the level of Vesely or anything.

I think he can be a contributor next season.