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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVEONAWARPATH View Post
    That's a ton of speculation and I think it gets pretty wild. I don't buy it. I don't buy that Kyrie will be the best PG in the league at any point, or that he alone would be enough to draw James away from a championship machine in Miami when the rest of Cleveland's roster sucks. I don't buy that James wants to leave Miami now, and I think he'll be even more entrenched in two years. If any of the big three are leaving Miami for financial reasons, it won't be him.

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    My problem with Wall's defense is that the effort is not there consistently, he gets very lazy on defense enough times that it stands out.
    I don't disagree. But when he gets locked in he's a difference maker. I think the consistency of his performance on D will go up as he matures. Mainly it'll go up when the team is winning and playing well as a unit and each possession matters.

    LeBron's rise as a defender kind of followed the same arc. He was crap at first but flashed the playmaking ability then by the time he gets to Miami he's an amazing defender.
    "John Wall will never be as good as Kyrie Irving was in his first week in the NBA" - David Falk, published February 14, 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    My problem with Wall's defense is that the effort is not there consistently, he gets very lazy on defense enough times that it stands out.
    He was put on Jimmer and Temple was brought in off the bench to guard Isiah Thomas. Think that's entirely because Randy likes Temple? I don't. He's a bad defender 90% of the time that his coach doesn't trust in crunch time.

    The bigger issue with Wall is that there are too many "if he could improve" areas to his game. Defense, half court offense, shooting, consistency, and at times attitude (he sulks). Sure he'd be better if surrounded in talent like Rondo has in Boston, but what good point guard wouldn't? Wall is good but he's got a lot of distance between him and great.

    He certainly could improve but that possibility doesn't change today's reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    He was put on Jimmer and Temple was brought in off the bench to guard Isiah Thomas. Think that's entirely because Randy likes Temple? I don't. He's a bad defender 90% of the time that his coach doesn't trust in crunch time.
    John is not a bad defender 90% of the time and the reason Wittman put Temple on Thomas is because Temple is supposed to be a stopper. That's his specialty. You're misreading the situation, it was more about Temple than Wall and Randy made a mistake, just like he made a mistake leaving Wall on the bench too long. And even still, the call to put Temple in would have worked if Ariza or Nene or the interior big had defended the pick properly.

    And even if it was a reflection on Wittman's trust in Wall like you claim, using that example as proof he's a bad crunch time defender is cherry picking the negative. John has actually won games in crunch time with spectacular defensive plays, including the weak side block in Denver.
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    I can't see any scenario in which Lebron goes to Cleveland. Not after the stupid rant their owner unleashed when he left. That bridge was burned pretty badly at that point and I haven't heard anything suggesting its been repaired. I'd love to see Kyrie and Lebron in the triangle offense so if he does go back maybe that happens. Then again I just love the triangle offense.

    The big three are done after this year or next. There isn't a chance they stay together beyond next season. The lakers will be broken up too. People are just starting to realize that the luxury tax has giant razor sharp teeth.

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    COMPLETELY OT here but how in the hell does Byron Mullens--a center--have a 37% FG percentage? How is that even possible?

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...mulleby01.html

    Sorry, was looking up Deron Williams and Dwight Howards stats this year which somehow lead me to the Bobcats and whether they're a worse team than us (yes, they are) which lead me to that. How is that even possible?

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    Deron Williams has always been overrated. Don't call going to Brooklyn a bad situation. And even if one could consider it a bad environment. It was Williams who created the poor environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.C.O.L.B. View Post
    COMPLETELY OT here but how in the hell does Byron Mullens--a center--have a 37% FG percentage? How is that even possible?
    He likes to take terrible mid ranged shots.

    We'll grind that axe, for a long time!

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    The Nets were terrible when they got Deron. They sill aren't that good, but they've come a looong way since. But the damage to the perception of Deron has been done. He's a franchise player though.

    He was not overrated in Utah either. He was an elite player and arguably the second best PG in the league to CP3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemcqueen1 View Post
    The Nets were terrible when they got Deron. They sill aren't that good, but they've come a looong way since. But the damage to the perception of Deron has been done. He's a franchise player though.

    He was not overrated in Utah either. He was an elite player and arguably the second best PG in the league to CP3.
    The damage to his perception was done when he chased off a legendary coach and bitched and moaned his way to the Nets. The Nets have a pretty good roster and he's still not back to what he was prior to turning into a massive team cancer in Utah. Lopez, Wallace, and Johnson certainly isn't bad.

    The lesson there is that John Wall would benefit from a head coach with an effective system. Sadly wasn't it Wall that gave Wittman the vote of confidence that resulted in him being extended here? The main difference is that Deron Williams can shoot and he's kind of a self important dbag.
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    You know that guy hands11 you older members are so fond of? Dude has a fan club on RealGM apparently. His current genius plan for the team in the draft thread is to put everyone on the block, including Wall and Beal, to get four first round picks in this class so he can pick CJ McCollum, Victor Oladipo, Otto Porter, and Mason Plumlee.
    "John Wall will never be as good as Kyrie Irving was in his first week in the NBA" - David Falk, published February 14, 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemcqueen1 View Post
    You know that guy hands11 you older members are so fond of? Dude has a fan club on RealGM apparently. His current genius plan for the team in the draft thread is to put everyone on the block, including Wall and Beal, to get four first round picks in this class so he can pick CJ McCollum, Victor Oladipo, Otto Porter, and Mason Plumlee.
    Dude is an absolute JOKE on RealGM. He's about as popular over there as he was here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemcqueen1 View Post
    You know that guy hands11 you older members are so fond of? Dude has a fan club on RealGM apparently. His current genius plan for the team in the draft thread is to put everyone on the block, including Wall and Beal, to get four first round picks in this class so he can pick CJ McCollum, Victor Oladipo, Otto Porter, and Mason Plumlee.
    He is the reason I don't read realGM anymore. The Wiz board on realGM was great before him. Now its 90% him making incredibly long stupid posts that no one reads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Excuses View Post
    He is the reason I don't read realGM anymore. The Wiz board on realGM was great before him. Now its 90% him making incredibly long stupid posts that no one reads.
    I saw someone say something like, "You should be the coach hands11!" after some post of his during a game thread. I think he was serious. Or at least seriously giving him praise. I'm sensing those game threads get almost as bad as the ones in the stadium here.

    I'm staying out of those threads on RealGM and coming here to post during games. Here we've got a nice little community of wizards fans that basically range from "totally jaded and pessimistic" to "mostly jaded and pessimistic."
    "John Wall will never be as good as Kyrie Irving was in his first week in the NBA" - David Falk, published February 14, 2013.

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    The problem with RealGM is that you have what is the equivalent of a bunch of leech doctors and folk doctors pretending that they know more than the people who study modern medicine. hands11 pretty much does no actual analysis and just spouts off based on his gut tells him, but he says it in this jivey way that makes him seem like some old basketball sage, lol.

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    Hands does the exact same stuff there as he did here. It's the reason most people on the RealGM Wizards forum have him on ignore.

    If you can get around posts by him, Knighthonor and WizarDynasty you'll find everyone else offers pretty decent insight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemcqueen1 View Post
    I saw someone say something like, "You should be the coach hands11!" after some post of his during a game thread. I think he was serious. Or at least seriously giving him praise. I'm sensing those game threads get almost as bad as the ones in the stadium here.

    I'm staying out of those threads on RealGM and coming here to post during games. Here we've got a nice little community of wizards fans that basically range from "totally jaded and pessimistic" to "mostly jaded and pessimistic."
    I think most people are sarcastic with regards to any "praise" directed towards him. The Kool Aid is strong with him. I like RealGM cause of some the stats gurus, that and I find the "general board" to pretty amusing, although it can get pretty devolved at times.

    As to the game tonight, clippers are playing bad, if CP3 is out, we may still yet have a shot. Beal and Booker are doubtful again I think, might see the american Vesely match up against Vesely, oh the humanity...

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