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    Quote Originally Posted by endzone_dave View Post
    Is Beal ok? It looked like he could have re-injured his wrist.

    Love how the Wiz are playing. The last time I could say that was....uh?
    He stayed in the game - not that means much, but his shot was still falling after he hurt his wrist (again).

    Haven't looked at the standings, but is the 8th seed over .500?

    I really think that if Wittman can get this team to at least 35 wins, he's going to get a few votes for COY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonArtest15 View Post
    He stayed in the game - not that means much, but his shot was still falling after he hurt his wrist (again).

    Haven't looked at the standings, but is the 8th seed over .500?

    I really think that if Wittman can get this team to at least 35 wins, he's going to get a few votes for COY.
    We beat the 8th seed yesterday, the Bucks. They are now exactly .500 at 25-25. I think 35 wins is reachable but I couldn't imagine Randy getting COY votes. I give him a ton of credit for the team playing defense but his coaching is still not something I'm happy with. He makes so many glaring mistakes in games and his handling of the roster early in the season is a large part of why the team lost so many games. He didn't have his stars so he decided to switch the line up every damn game and made it virtually impossible for the rest of the team to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    Its still a longshot, we would have to go 26-6 the rest of the way to finish at .500.
    I think 20-12 would be pushing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endzone_dave View Post
    Is Beal ok? It looked like he could have re-injured his wrist.

    Love how the Wiz are playing. The last time I could say that was....uh?
    He seems fine ... he drained the free throws after the scare.

    Watched that entire damn game last night ... amazing. what a night and day difference from the 4-28 start.

    Ball movement is down right pretty, Little Boy (Nene) is freaking eating people up, John Wall is a star in this league, flat out ... it's great to see.

    I would love to see some more Jan Vesley ... can't belive he can't crack the lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    We beat the 8th seed yesterday, the Bucks. They are now exactly .500 at 25-25. I think 35 wins is reachable but I couldn't imagine Randy getting COY votes. I give him a ton of credit for the team playing defense but his coaching is still not something I'm happy with. He makes so many glaring mistakes in games and his handling of the roster early in the season is a large part of why the team lost so many games. He didn't have his stars so he decided to switch the line up every damn game and made it virtually impossible for the rest of the team to succeed.

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    I think 20-12 would be pushing it.
    In regards to Wittman, I think he's shown professional growth as much as some of the guys on this team. He's had his ups and downs, but I've got no issue with how he's been doing things for the past 17/18 games. IF this trend can continue, I have no issues with him coming back next year. I really believe that if this team gets to 35 wins somehow, he'll get a few votes for COY. That would be a hell of a turn-around despite being under .500

    It's just crazy to me how much Wall means to this team. It's going to be important for the front office to get a capable backup in here who can not only spell Wall, but also help to pick up the slack if he misses any time due to injury.

    What do you all think about adding a guy like Matt Bonner via trade? We need a stretch-4, and bonner would be a HUGE asset to this team (IMO). I'm not sure what we'd have to give up in order to get him, but he's also off the books after the 13/14 season.

    Trade bait: Crawford, Booker, and Ves.

    *Vesely for Royce White? White is a mess, but maybe a change of scenery would do him some good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    I think 20-12 would be pushing it.
    A 20-12 finish would be amazing, something real to build on going forward. Only downside to finishing 20-12 is that we would be stuck with Grunfeld & Wittman moving forward.


    Push come to shove, I could live with Wittman, but Grunfeld is on Blatchian levels with me.
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    I'm starting to reconsider the need for a stretch 4 primarily because Wall is such a lousy scorer. He likes to score in the paint but he's not terribly good at it. We can't build a team of perimeter threats around a guy that isn't a great scorer in the paint. Tony Parker lives in the paint and the spurs still have a low post scoring option. I think a major part of the turn around has been Nene and okafor scoring inside. Wall should for all intents and purposes be written off as a scoring option, he's an opportunistic scoring option.

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    Boy, we sure managed to dupe someone (Denver, was it?) into giving up Nene for Mcgee. That was a steal! It's been hard to maintain interest in the Wizards these past several years but this recent turnaround has me genuinely optimistic going forward. I remember our strong finish last year and thinking to myself "maybe we've got it turned around." Unfortunetely Wall & Nene were hurt, so whatever chance we had of riding that momentum into this year went out the window. Now that they're back, things are looking up again. I just hope his injury doesn't impede the improvements we desperately need him to make - offensively he hasn't really improved since his rookie year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    I'm starting to reconsider the need for a stretch 4 primarily because Wall is such a lousy scorer. He likes to score in the paint but he's not terribly good at it. We can't build a team of perimeter threats around a guy that isn't a great scorer in the paint. Tony Parker lives in the paint and the spurs still have a low post scoring option. I think a major part of the turn around has been Nene and okafor scoring inside. Wall should for all intents and purposes be written off as a scoring option, he's an opportunistic scoring option.
    disagree....Wall finishes at a 55% rate at the rim (which isn't bad at all). Comparison....Tony Parker 65%; Westbrook 56%; Rose (2012) 56%

    He can't shoot, but he can definitely get to the rim and score. Not sure where you are coming up with the idea that he can't score? Another thing to look at is how he averaged 16 points per game his first two years and will likely finish somewhere around there this year as well. That's good enough to be the third scoring option on a team....which works out because moving forward Beal is going to be option #1 and Nene will be option #2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheItalianStallion View Post
    Boy, we sure managed to dupe someone (Denver, was it?) into giving up Nene for Mcgee. That was a steal! It's been hard to maintain interest in the Wizards these past several years but this recent turnaround has me genuinely optimistic going forward. I remember our strong finish last year and thinking to myself "maybe we've got it turned around." Unfortunetely Wall & Nene were hurt, so whatever chance we had of riding that momentum into this year went out the window. Now that they're back, things are looking up again. I just hope his injury doesn't impede the improvements we desperately need him to make - offensively he hasn't really improved since his rookie year.
    It was a really good trade (so far). I don't think McGee will ever develop into a reliable starting top 10 center in the league (and that's how he gets paid). Nene is a legit top 5 overall center in the league. He is good at everything (except rebounding)....would be great if he rebounded better, but I'll take his scoring/passing/defense.

    Could have easily went the other way if JaVale all of a sudden turned on the light and/or Nene continued his often injured streak (which remains to be seen). Supposedly his current string of injuries this year and last year were all derived from the torn flanter fascia ...which can linger (especially if it isn't rested for a long period of time). He seems to have gotten passed this injury, so hopefully he'll stay healthy the rest of his time here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheItalianStallion View Post
    Boy, we sure managed to dupe someone (Denver, was it?) into giving up Nene for Mcgee. That was a steal! It's been hard to maintain interest in the Wizards these past several years but this recent turnaround has me genuinely optimistic going forward. I remember our strong finish last year and thinking to myself "maybe we've got it turned around." Unfortunetely Wall & Nene were hurt, so whatever chance we had of riding that momentum into this year went out the window. Now that they're back, things are looking up again. I just hope his injury doesn't impede the improvements we desperately need him to make - offensively he hasn't really improved since his rookie year.
    It was a really good trade (so far). I don't think McGee will ever develop into a reliable starting top 10 center in the league (and that's how he gets paid). Nene is a legit top 5 overall center in the league. He is good at everything (except rebounding)....would be great if he rebounded better, but I'll take his scoring/passing/defense.

    Could have easily went the other way if JaVale all of a sudden turned on the light and/or Nene continued his often injured streak (which remains to be seen). Supposedly his current string of injuries this year and last year were all derived from the torn flanter fascia ...which can linger (especially if it isn't rested for a long period of time). He seems to have gotten passed this injury, so hopefully he'll stay healthy the rest of his time here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheItalianStallion View Post
    Boy, we sure managed to dupe someone (Denver, was it?) into giving up Nene for Mcgee. That was a steal! It's been hard to maintain interest in the Wizards these past several years but this recent turnaround has me genuinely optimistic going forward. I remember our strong finish last year and thinking to myself "maybe we've got it turned around." Unfortunetely Wall & Nene were hurt, so whatever chance we had of riding that momentum into this year went out the window. Now that they're back, things are looking up again. I just hope his injury doesn't impede the improvements we desperately need him to make - offensively he hasn't really improved since his rookie year.
    It was a really good trade (so far). I don't think McGee will ever develop into a reliable starting top 10 center in the league (and that's how he gets paid). Nene is a legit top 5 overall center in the league. He is good at everything (except rebounding)....would be great if he rebounded better, but I'll take his scoring/passing/defense.

    Could have easily went the other way if JaVale all of a sudden turned on the light and/or Nene continued his often injured streak (which remains to be seen). Supposedly his current string of injuries this year and last year were all derived from the torn flanter fascia ...which can linger (especially if it isn't rested for a long period of time). He seems to have gotten passed this injury, so hopefully he'll stay healthy the rest of his time here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Bait View Post
    disagree....Wall finishes at a 55% rate at the rim (which isn't bad at all). Comparison....Tony Parker 65%; Westbrook 56%; Rose (2012) 56%

    He can't shoot, but he can definitely get to the rim and score. Not sure where you are coming up with the idea that he can't score? Another thing to look at is how he averaged 16 points per game his first two years and will likely finish somewhere around there this year as well. That's good enough.
    Finishing at the rim percentages don't really mean a lot. How often can he get to the rim, how efficient is he overall, and can the defense take it away. I see him as a guy that scores on the break and opportunistically otherwise. In the half court the team needs guys down low that can get the ball and convert in the paint. The entire point is that he's not good enough a pure scorer inside to move one big outside for much of the time. I think the team is better with Nene at the 4 and a rebounder at the 5 which Okafor has provided.

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    Nerlens is on TV at 7:00 on ESPN. Big time game against Florida.

    Trey Burke and Glenn Robinson III are on ESPN at 9:00
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    2K13's draft and draft day trade system is broken. They build in "reaches" to try and be realistic and reflect scouting errors so that you can get value picks. But the chances for reaches are way too high. And the trade value of draft picks plummets on draft day. Teams will propose trades to you when their picks come up that are very favorable. I just traded Vesely for the 12th overall pick and Lavoy Allen. Then I traded Booker and my 2014 first rounder for another first round pick. Again, not my proposal.

    And like I was saying with those value picks, I got Nerlens just sitting still and letting the draft come to me at 7, McLemore at 12, and Otto Porter at like 16 or 17. Doug McDermott went before Ben McLemore I believe.

    Then I simulated through the entire next season to the FA period where I extended John Wall and then signed LeBron James . We were his and Carmelo's top choice! Carmelo actually accepted my contract offer too but I had to turn him down because I didn't have the money to sign both him and LeBron and had to choose between the two.

    That game is absolutely ridiculous. The Wizards roster is now Wall, Beal. LeBron, Nene, Nerlens with McLemore and Porter coming off the bench

    It's like all of the CPU GMs are programmed with an Ernie Grunfeld AI.
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    Noel's knee injury looked serious. ****. The draft class just took a huge hit.

    Trey Burke has played well so far. He's such a good shooter. Be a pretty nice third guard to have and a top notch backup PG to Wall but personally I'd rather have a vet backup PG for Wall than a developmental player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemcqueen1 View Post
    Noel's knee injury looked serious. ****. The draft class just took a huge hit.
    http://twitpic.com/c38ga5

    does not look good at all from that picture
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    YIKES. That looks really bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    http://twitpic.com/c38ga5

    does not look good at all from that picture
    holy crap! I didn't think it was that bad watching the video. That picture makes my knees ache, more than usual anyway.

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