The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[Shabby]

Kyrie is a great shooter and scorer but he can't defend and he's not a great passer. I doubt you can ever build a contender around a player like that as THE guy. He's not like Rose, he needs a second or third star.

So Chicago's defense had nothing to do with how good the bulls were/are? They are currently 5th seed, without Rose.

[StillUnknown]

James Harden: 46pts on 19 shots, 8rebs, 6assts


**** my life

[Destino]

James Harden: 46pts on 19 shots, 8rebs, 6assts


**** my life

I said it at the time it was a franchise defining moment. Turned down a star that was ours for the taking. If they offered Harden for Wall this team should have jumped on it. For a pick it should have been a no brainer.

[Shabby]

James Harden: 46pts on 19 shots, 8rebs, 6assts
**** my life

BEAST. I still scratch my head when people on these boards say they are happy we kept beal. I mean I like beal, but he's not a superstar like Harden, and I may be wrong, but I doubt hell be even close to as good as harden.

[StillUnknown]

BEAST. I still scratch my head when people on these boards say they are happy we kept beal. I mean I like beal, but he's not a superstar like Harden, and I may be wrong, but I doubt hell be even close to as good as harden.

I am very high on Beal, I still make that deal 100% of the time.

[Skin'emAlive]

James Harden: 46pts on 19 shots, 8rebs, 6assts


**** my life

James Harden = Not an Allstar in this league. lol

[Fight4RGIII]

Living in the past will only bring you guys pain

[Destino]

Living in the past will only bring you guys pain

When Ernie is fired ill move on. Until then it's not the past.

[chipwhich]

When Ernie is fired ill move on. Until then it's not the past.

We can always go back to Susan O'Malley

Steddy Teddy is the same type of owner as Abe Pollin. Maybe Bob Ferry

[stevemcqueen1]

So Chicago's defense had nothing to do with how good the bulls were/are? They are currently 5th seed, without Rose.

And they are a 1 seed with him.

[Destino]

Just curious as to why you'd rank Irving over Westbrook? I wouldn't even take Irving over Jrue Holiday.

Simple. I think Irving is a championship caliber perimeter offensive talent. He's only in year two and he is efficiently scoring 24ppg and he can score from anywhere on the floor. I put a premium on offensive talent because dominant scoring threats in the NBA have suddenly become extremely rare. I like Westbrook a lot but I think Kyrie is closer to Durant as an offensive player.

[SiCkSoULjA]

Simple. I think Irving is a championship caliber perimeter offensive talent. He's only in year two and he is efficiently scoring 24ppg and he can score from anywhere on the floor. I put a premium on offensive talent because dominant scoring threats in the NBA have suddenly become extremely rare. I like Westbrook a lot but I think Kyrie is closer to Durant as an offensive player.

I am not taking Irving over Westbrook but its close I think Westbrook defense gives him the edge here, but Irving is better than Holiday.

[stevemcqueen1]

Simple. I think Irving is a championship caliber perimeter offensive talent. He's only in year two and he is efficiently scoring 24ppg and he can score from anywhere on the floor. I put a premium on offensive talent because dominant scoring threats in the NBA have suddenly become extremely rare. I like Westbrook a lot but I think Kyrie is closer to Durant as an offensive player.

As a scorer and ball handler, yeah I buy it. But Westbrook is a pretty average passer and he's still a lot better passer than Kyrie.

And Westbrook is a pretty good defender who will tirelessly hound the ball, run through a million screens per night, and bang with much bigger players. He was guarding LeBron the other night. He's on a different level physically than Kyrie.

Plus Westbrook is a tank. His fitness has to be the best in the game. He's never missed a game and he plays such a physical style.

Plus Westbrook has proven he can PG a team to the Finals, Kyrie hasn't really proven anything other than he can score a lot of points yet.

I think Westbrook gets overshadowed by Durant but if he played on a team where he was the top star, he would get much more of his due.

[Gator Bait]

I also think the hype on Kyrie has gotten a little out of hand after crossing over Brandon Knight and winning the 3 pt contest, two things that mean precisely jack ****. The ESPN crew actually said he's the best PG 24 and under in the NBA, not Westbrook, and not Rose. That's ****ing ridiculous. Call me when Irving leads his team to a 1 seed and a couple of 50+ win seasons and wins an MVP.

Irving is definitely a better offensive player than the guys you mentioned, but when defense is considered, I might still give the edge to Westbrook. I can't speak on Rose until I've seen him play a full year after the knee injury; he is a question mark right now.

[Gator Bait]

So Chicago's defense had nothing to do with how good the bulls were/are? They are currently 5th seed, without Rose.

Rose was really good, but that Chicago team is built well from top to bottom. They are one of the best defensive teams in the league and also have one of the best coaches in the league.

---------- Post added February-21st-2013 at 09:04 AM ----------

I said it at the time it was a franchise defining moment. Turned down a star that was ours for the taking. If they offered Harden for Wall this team should have jumped on it. For a pick it should have been a no brainer.

so easy to say after the fact...not to mention all of you would crucify Ernie/Ted and the franchise if they traded for Harden and he didn't extend!